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Team3S Digest         Friday, August 13 1999         Volume 01 : Number 256




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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:23:21 -0400
From: "Wallis, Gavin" <WallisG@MWAA.com>
Subject: Team3S: more brake stuff

Ok, so i guess i'll be trying to track down Porterfield's -never warp- Cryo
rotors.

Sorry i didn't ask the first time...but what about pads? I was thinking
Porterfields street pads or metal matrixs. Suggestions please...

Thanks,
Gavin
'94 Black VR-4
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:51:23 -0400
From: RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Team3S: Insurance

John:

Don't sell it!!!  Call Progressive Insurance and get a quote from them (for just
the Stealth).  Keep your other insurance with the current company if you want,
but don't let them rip you off for the Stealth.

Roger


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:10:50 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: more brake stuff

Regarding VR-4 brakes:  I recently ordered a set of pads for the front
brakes on my '95 VR-4, from Tallassee Mitsubishi.  I noticed that only one
of the four pads had metal "fingers" which would squeel when you began to
run out of pad thickness.  Is this normal; or should all pads have wear
"squeel" members?
Regards,
ptg
PS- If only one is normally used, in what position hould it be installed?

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:42:54 -600
From: syzygy@webzone.net
Subject: Re: Team3S: exhaust mods (was: "Track exhaust")

>While heavier than stainless, the stock piping seems pretty good (size,
>construction, etc.).  Why not just yank the stock muffler, adjustable
>exhaust and passenger side piping and install a single, high-flow
>muffler on the driver side?  This would be extremely cheap, and it's not
>like these cars have dual exhaust anyway.  How about no muffler at all
>(just bring the pipe straight back)?  With the turbos and the cats,
>would it really be all that loud?

My 95's exhaust is straight pipe (no mufflers) it is not too loud at all IMHO.
It has a pleasing rumble and doesn't get loud until WOT. Of course all cats
are intact.

The old Stealth WAS LOUD (no cats, straight pipe) ... still not too loud, but
definately loud.

Why not just install a single highflow ? Cause I like the look of the dual for
one... another reason.. what would I do with the extra cut out on the back of
the car??

Nissa
95 VR-4
Don't mess in the affairs of dragons.
For you are crunchy and go good with ketchup.
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:56:59 -0500
From: "Basol, John" <jbasol@Carlson.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Insurance

Actually, Progressive was the lowest priced one so far, and that was more
than double what I used to pay when we had it insured in just my wife's
name.

John Basol
System Management Services

-----Original Message-----
From: RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com [SMTP:RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 2:51 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Insurance

John:

Don't sell it!!!  Call Progressive Insurance and get a quote from
them (for just
the Stealth).  Keep your other insurance with the current company if
you want,
but don't let them rip you off for the Stealth.

Roger


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:51:44 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Boost / Knock (datalogs)

I was able to made some runs tonight (in light rain, without WI) and
recorded about 6-7 runs. After analysing the data this is what I found :

15psi :
All runs showed slight knock around 5700 and up - no retard. Only up to 5
sum is shown in 2nd and up to 15 then in 3rd gear (4th would be too fast).

15.5psi :
Knock was always higher and peaked in double the amount in 2nd and over 25
in 3rd. Here knock started at 5500, peaked at 5700 and stayed at this level
after 6400. On one run with knock over 25 the timing got retarded some
degrees and this is maybe the cause knock did not increase anymore.

Some other findings :
- - The intake temperature became lower as faster the car runned (there must
comming in some cold air. The temp was around 77 compared to high 90 on the
first run. I saw no difference in the knock amount due to the intake
temperature !
- - Timing is not retarded until knock amount becomes higher than 20.
- - On the dyno session at the beginning of this year we saw the power
decreasing with a little more boost after 15psi. The log now absolutely
proves this as at 15.5psi the timing is retarded under full load (from 5500
on) and therefore power is lost.
- - O2 sensor showed figures around 0.92V at 15psi and came down to 0.86V at
15.5psi
- - Injectors have always been at 100% IDC

Now open for discussion :
- - temperatures of 97°F in the MAS showed the SAME results as 77°F - This may
lead me to the conclusion that a hood scoop to the filter will not help
anything in cooling down ! I was thinking the last hours about this and my
only explanation is that the discharge temperatures of the turbos must be
way higher so the cooler MAS temp does not help anything.

- - 15psi of boost IS max. for the stock fuel system. Short runs on the track
with 15psi of boost will not hurt the engine at all. But going higher to
15.5psi will cause knock and leads to a retarded timing that finally loses
power at the top. This occurs in 3rd and will occur in 2nd if boost goes up
to 16psi. This was measured with 93 octane pump gas and for sure with high
octane race gas the problem may be lowered.

Now, it's time to tune in the WI to get rid of the knock. I made two tries
and found out that 60% at 15.5psi does not help. I will try to increase
water pressure first as I'm pretty sure we have to give a lot water to cool
the degraded temps of the turbos down.

Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:12:32 -0700
From: "Terry Swift" <tlswift@hotbot.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Insurance

GEICO does a pretty good job on rates as well.  How are you classifying your driving of the vehicles?  Are you claiming a 50/50 on the Stealth.  If your wife drives it the most, have them do a different split, like 80% wife / 20% you or go even higher to 90 / 10.  Unless your record is really bad, it shouldn't have doubled just because you got married.
- --

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:56:59   Basol, John wrote:
>Actually, Progressive was the lowest priced one so far, and that was more
>than double what I used to pay when we had it insured in just my wife's
>name.
>
>John Basol
>System Management Services
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com [SMTP:RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 2:51 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Subject: Team3S: Insurance
>
> John:
>
> Don't sell it!!!  Call Progressive Insurance and get a quote from
>them (for just
> the Stealth).  Keep your other insurance with the current company if
>you want,
> but don't let them rip you off for the Stealth.
>
> Roger
>
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:24:31 -0500
From: "Ian Marks" <ianmarks@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Speaker replacement

Thanks to all for the advice. At least there's one thing that's easy to work
on on these cars eh?

>
> On my VR4 the speaker just popped right out.  They really were not held in
> place by anything.  Take a small screw driver and they should come right
> out, grill and all.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ian Marks <ianmarks@earthlink.net>
> To: stealth-3000 <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:34 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Team 3S: Speaker replacement
>
>
>>
>> The front speaker in the dash is fried in my Stealth and the Service
> manual
>> has absolutly no information about it. Has anyone replaced/repaired the
>> speakers in the dash?
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:36:51 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Boost / Knock (datalogs)

> I was able to made some runs tonight (in light rain, without WI) and
> recorded about 6-7 runs. After analysing the data this is what I found :
>
> - 15psi of boost IS max. for the stock fuel system. Short runs on the track
> with 15psi of boost will not hurt the engine at all. But going higher to
> 15.5psi will cause knock and leads to a retarded timing that finally loses
> power at the top.
==================================================

If you have access to racing gas [ 100+ octane ] it would be interesting to
see what happens to the knocking. Lots of 1/4 mi guys load up with hi
octane and feel safe running 18 plus pounds of boost.

    Jim Berry

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:29:30 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: Team3S: Question about radiator fluid.

I had my radiator replaced and the guy put straight radiator fluid in it
without water.  I noticed the cars seems to run hotter now, does this affect
the engine running hotter?  Should I drain it and put more water in it?
Thanks for any advice.

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:13:04 -0400
From: "Kevin" <Kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about radiator fluid.

Your best cooling comes from a mixture of water and antifreeze.  Follow the
manufacturer's suggestions.  But, A friend of mine swears by straight
antifreeze.  His father's truck (1979 Ford) was given to him when he turned
16, then when he pulled the motor to put in a V-8 we looked at the coolant
passages.  SPOTLESS.... like brand new and the truck has 160,000 miles on
it.  If it is not overheating, but just running a little hotter I would not
worry about it.  If you plan on being in traffic alot or really abusing the
car I would put some water in it.

Kevin Schappell
http://www.pacarsearch.com/motorhead/mitsu2.htm
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From: Joshua <joshua@unconundrum.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 9:29 PM
Subject: Team3S: Question about radiator fluid.


> I had my radiator replaced and the guy put straight radiator fluid in it
> without water.  I noticed the cars seems to run hotter now, does this
affect
> the engine running hotter?  Should I drain it and put more water in it?
> Thanks for any advice.
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:16:57 -0400
From: "Kevin" <Kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: Team3S: What does an old timing belt look like?

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and has a slight glossy appearance( more like satin ).  Edges are not =
frayed or damaged.  So you guys who have changed your belts, what did =
the old ones look like.

Thanks,
Kevin Schappell
http://www.pacarsearch.com/motorhead/mitsu2.htm

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:40:48 -0400
From: "Kevin" <Kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: Team3S: Sorry about the HTML

Computer crashed yesterday and I had to re-install everything!!!   Forgot to
change the settings.

Kevin

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:39:32 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: more brake stuff

If I remember correctly, two of the pads should have the squeal indicators.

The correct mounting is on the inside pad.


Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
 E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Paul T. Golley
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 3:11 PM
To: Wallis, Gavin; stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: more brake stuff

Regarding VR-4 brakes:  I recently ordered a set of pads for the front
brakes on my '95 VR-4, from Tallassee Mitsubishi.  I noticed that only one
of the four pads had metal "fingers" which would squeel when you began to
run out of pad thickness.  Is this normal; or should all pads have wear
"squeel" members?
Regards,
ptg
PS- If only one is normally used, in what position hould it be installed?

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:16:42 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Driver's School at Blackhawk Farms

To folks in the Chicago/Milwaukee/Mnpls area:

Badger BMW club is holding a two-day driver's school/open track event at
Blackhawk Farms on Aug. 21-22. We can go, if we promise not to embarass
them too much.

Blackhawk Farms is 90 minutes north of Chicago, straight up the interstate
to Rockford.

They tell me that the novice drivers school group is closing up fast, so if
you want to go, call Larry Boyer at 414/266-9062 ASAP. They are up to 41
students already.

If you get in, e-mail me and I'll tell you what you need to do to the
brakes to get your car ready (not much -- for your first event, it's a
piece of cake).

For experienced drivers, the open track stuff starts Saturday afternoon and
runs all day Sunday.

You'll want to get in good with Badger BMW, because they run at RoadAmerica
in October. RA has two one-mile straights...

Hope to see some of you at Blackhawk Farms.
I'll be in the black 94 VR4 with the big white brake scoops.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:40:09 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Honcking goose .. unbelieveable !

Some of you know that I never ever experienced this sound on my EU 3000GT
TT.

Well, after putting the stuff back together with the water injection
installed I'm now getting the same stupid sound.

Therefore, it must have something to do with the way the stuff is installed
!! Maybe just pushing the BPV 2mm in would help or whatever. The BPV is not
getting weaker as it was out of the car for a long time (HKS BOV) and I
installed for the government stuff.

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:27:10 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Torque

Hi

Today I read in a swedish paper about all WRC (rally) cars,  they have listed how many HP and how much torque the different cars have.

All cars have 295-300 hp (under 2 liters) but they all have torque in the range 510-550 NM !!!!

Can someone please explain how it's possible to get so much torque out of a car with only 2 liters and 300hp.

I'm just thinking, if we had the same hp/torque relation the "bad" 3000gt's should have 550 hp and something like 935 NM !!! (that will for sure kill the Getrag)

Please explain!

/Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu



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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:36:49 -0400
From: "Johnson, Scott  (CAP, ITS, CA)" <Scott.Johnson@gects.ge.com>
Subject: Team3S: Question about Electronically Controlled Suspension (ECS)

Hi guys,
 
I have a couple of questions about the ECS function.
 
My ECS indicator is flashing "Sport", and has since I recently purchased the
car.  Pressing the ECS button has no discernable effect, and given that the
indicator is flashing in that mode, I assume that there is a problem.
This means to me that the car is "stuck" in the Sport mode of the suspension
tuning.
 
Am I correct in assuming this?
 
As well, what exactly happens mechanically between the two suspension modes.
The owner's manual is very general (e.g. the suspension characteristics will
be set to "HARD"...).
 
I'm also wondering, if there is a problem (and their must be) has anyone had
to fix this, and is it costly???
 
Thanks
Scott
'93 R/T TT
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:50:26 -0400
From: "Meyer" <meyer2@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S: Need pair of 95+ "projector style" Headlights

I am looking for a pair of projector style headlights in any color.  They
must be off of a 95 or later 3kgt or stealth w/ lexan plastic covers.
301-393-8800 or meyer2@erols.com


Matt Meyer
www.AcceleratedAccessories.com

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:14:02 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about Electronically Controlled Suspension (ECS)

>This means to me that the car is "stuck" in the Sport mode of the
suspension
>tuning.  Am I correct in assuming this?

Yes, exactly !

>As well, what exactly happens mechanically between the two suspension
modes.
>The owner's manual is very general (e.g. the suspension characteristics
will
>be set to "HARD"...).

I don't know what exactly (mechanical view) is going on in the struts but
the dampeners have several positions (I guess three positions : hard,
medium, soft) If set to Tour the ECS sets the dampeners to soft and adjusts
them with some delay if necessary automatically. With this a smooth ride
with a good reaction in long fast turns is guaranteed. Works pretty good. On
the circle track I only found the Sport mode useful as the Tour mode
increased the understeering tendency a lot.

>I'm also wondering, if there is a problem (and their must be) has anyone
had
>to fix this, and is it costly???


Luckily the most that already had this problem found a broken connector or
cable. Go to http://user.icx.net/~adams/strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm and have
a look. It's also good to check the rear ones if the fronts are done.

Regards
Roger
93'3000GT TT



>
>Thanks
>Scott
>'93 R/T TT
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:25:38 -0400
From: RJR15@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about Electronically Controlled Suspension  (ECS)

Scott:

I had the same problem in my '91 Stealth, and from what I hear, it is a common
one.  The flashing "sport" light on the dash means that there IS a problem with
the ECS system.  It is defaulting to the stiffer "sport" setting, instead of
"tour", and won't let you change the mode with the dash button.

With a shop manual, you can read about how to diagnose which ECS sensor is
causing the problem.  Can any list members help me out here?  If not, I could
scan the page from my manual and e-mail it to you.  Mine was a sensor on the
front strut tower, which had faulty wiring - they just wear out due to the
suspension travel.  I had the dealer replace the part (~ $165 from the dealer,
an hour of labor included) but I have heard that the wiring may be repaired
without buying a new part.

If one of the front strut sensors turns out to be your problem, it is very easy
to do the repair yourself.  These parts are accessed under the hood, just
beneath the strut tower covers in the hood.  There is a circular black rubber
part which is held in with 3(?) bolts.  Undo the bolts and you will see where
the wiring is plugged in.  Check the wiring for signs of wear.

If nobody else has more detailed info handy, I can provide it when I get my shop
manual from home.

Roger Roskam
'91 Stealth RT/TT


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Gas & Oil Level

Hi, these are potentially technical (?) questions so I hope its OK
for me to post them here:

1) Does the brand (Mobil, Shell) of gas one uses matter?

I am curious because I heard different companies use different additives
in their gas. What are these additives, what do they do, and do they
matter significantly?

I have been using Shell since I got my car 2 months ago and I was using it
in my Eclipse GS-T for the past few months (got a Shell gas card & my gas
there is discounted).

Prior to that I used to use Mobil in my Eclipse. No difference that I
noticed.

I am in the Boston area, BTW.

2) How many qts of oil go in a 2G VR4? My mechanic put 5 qts of oil in
before checking the dipstick and saying it was OK. I used Mobil 1 10w-40
and a Mobil 1 filter.

For some reason the oil runs all along my dipstick when I check the oil.
Im thinking maybe there is some oil in the shaft that the dipstick goes
down?

I have been noticing a gas smell sometimes while driving, but I'm not sure
if I'm just sucking in fumes from the car in front of me or if there is a
problem.

Thanks in advance.

mb '97 VR4

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:09:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Can't shift into third?

I'm having problems shifting into third gear on occassion. It just won't
go in & it has caused me to accidently shift into first a few times
(oops). Usually if I double clutch it will go in, but I was wondering if
this is indicative of a problem?

The car is a 97 VR4 with ~17k miles.

Thanks.



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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:25:23 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Can't shift into third?

Don't hope the synchros are gone with just 17k !!

Try to get the shifter cable adjusted. May help to solve your problems.

Roger Gerl
93'3000GT TT

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From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Cc: stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com>
Date: Freitag, 13. August 1999 16:11
Subject: Team3S: Can't shift into third?


>I'm having problems shifting into third gear on occassion. It just won't
>go in & it has caused me to accidently shift into first a few times
>(oops). Usually if I double clutch it will go in, but I was wondering if
>this is indicative of a problem?
>
>The car is a 97 VR4 with ~17k miles.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:30:37 -0500
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)" <MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Team3S: '94+ brakes on a pre '94

I have been thinking about upgrading my brakes to '94+ brakes but always
thought that it would not work with my '91RT/TT 17" wheels.

I saw a picture of a '94 RT/TT and noticed that the wheels looked the same
as mine.

I called the dealer and they said the the part number is the same for the
'91 wheel as the '94.

Therefore, is it possible to upgrade my brakes without buying new wheels?

The caliper are the same size, but I'm assuming that the hangers are
different to allow for the larger rotors.

I'm sure that I've heard/read somewhere that the breaks won't work unless
you change the wheels, but now I'm not sure since the wheels are the same.

Any info would be appreciated,

Mark
'91RT/TT

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Mark Wendlandt  Honeywell CASSPO-Inertial Support
Phone:  612-957-3736     Pager: 612-601-0881                    
Email:  Mark.Wendlandt@cfsmo.honeywell.com         
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:49:34 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gas & Oil Level

- -----Original Message-----From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
>1) Does the brand (Mobil, Shell) of gas one uses matter?
>I am curious because I heard different companies use different
additives
>in their gas. What are these additives, what do they do, and do they
>matter significantly?
>I have been using Shell since I got my car 2 months ago and I was
using it
>in my Eclipse GS-T for the past few months (got a Shell gas card & my
gas
>there is discounted).

The brand of gas matters less than the gas station at which you buy
it!  Go to several different Shell stations, and note how well your
car runs...  Stations are famous for cutting corners by mixing good
gas with mediocre..., adding water to the tanks, etc, etc...  Every
once in a while, go to a station that sells another brand of gas--
often you can feel the difference in performance.

It appears that additives are soon to be a moot point--  here in
California, they have finally been banned, because it's been
determined that the stuff kills people!  Other states will follow
quickly...


>2) How many qts of oil go in a 2G VR4? My mechanic put 5 qts of oil
in
>before checking the dipstick and saying it was OK. I used Mobil 1
10w-40
>and a Mobil 1 filter.

5.2 qts.  Many guys on the list have recommended Mobil-1 with the
stock filter; the Mobil-1 filter isn't so hot...


>For some reason the oil runs all along my dipstick when I check the
oil.
>Im thinking maybe there is some oil in the shaft that the dipstick
goes
>down?

After hard driving, there will be some oil in the dipstick shaft...
That's why mechanics always wipe off the stick first, then insert it
back to get a true reading.  It shouldn't be way up on the dipstick,
though...  that would indicate foaming and that a problem may exist...


>I have been noticing a gas smell sometimes while driving, but I'm not
sure
>if I'm just sucking in fumes from the car in front of me or if there
is a
>problem.

In a recent study, it was determined that the pollution levels inside
any car were up to 10 times worse than outside the car.  Unless you're
travelling at high speed, or it's cold, leave the windows open some
(the survey suggested always leaving them open a bit...).

Forrest


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:29:37 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Can't shift into third?

Someone posted awhile back on the shifter linkage control arm (under the blow off valve)
At this location  the roll pin occasionally becomes unadjusted...it sticks out too far
and you consequently cannot get into third gear in particular. Realign the parts and
secure the roll pin.

Best

Darc

R.G. wrote:

> Don't hope the synchros are gone with just 17k !!
>
> Try to get the shifter cable adjusted. May help to solve your problems.
>
> Roger Gerl
> 93'3000GT TT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
> Cc: stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com
> <stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com>
> Date: Freitag, 13. August 1999 16:11
> Subject: Team3S: Can't shift into third?
>
> >I'm having problems shifting into third gear on occassion. It just won't
> >go in & it has caused me to accidently shift into first a few times
> >(oops). Usually if I double clutch it will go in, but I was wondering if
> >this is indicative of a problem?
> >
> >The car is a 97 VR4 with ~17k miles.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:55:41 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: [Fwd: Team3S: Can't shift into third?]

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Darc

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Someone posted awhile back on the shifter linkage control arm (under the blow off valve)
At this location  the roll pin occasionally becomes unadjusted...it sticks out too far
and you consequently cannot get into third gear in particular. Realign the parts and
secure the roll pin.

Best

Darc

R.G. wrote:

> Don't hope the synchros are gone with just 17k !!
>
> Try to get the shifter cable adjusted. May help to solve your problems.
>
> Roger Gerl
> 93'3000GT TT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
> Cc: stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com
> <stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com>
> Date: Freitag, 13. August 1999 16:11
> Subject: Team3S: Can't shift into third?
>
> >I'm having problems shifting into third gear on occassion. It just won't
> >go in & it has caused me to accidently shift into first a few times
> >(oops). Usually if I double clutch it will go in, but I was wondering if
> >this is indicative of a problem?
> >
> >The car is a 97 VR4 with ~17k miles.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:44:44 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Team3S: What are some opinions on the front mount IC?

I've got a first gen, and it seems to me that our bumper's opening is just
too small to get enough air to the accelerated accessories IC (just from
what I saw of it, please don't think I am trying to bash it, I think it's
beautiful and I am saving for one right now...). what are some of your
opinions? do you think that running both turbos through a front mount will
cool intake temps more than each through an individual side mount?

Just trying to start some discussion...
Carlos

(btw, does anyone know how to trick the active aero into thinking that its
front dam is working? mine isnt there anymore =)   )

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