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Digest Friday, March 12
1999 Volume 01 : Number
122
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Date:
Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:22:50 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re: Autopower rollbar....
Hi team...
I happened to
have the Autopower rollbar in my car. Mine was bought
and installed few
years ago so I don't know if they made any changes.
I just took
some pix with my bro's digital cam, so anyone interested
in seeing what it
look like can give me a private email and I'll sent
you the pix. Sorry
for not posting it on the net, I don't have a
homepage nor do I have how to
make one! ;(
One last thing I might add, I was told (back then)
that the roll bar
won't fit 3Ss with the sun/moonroofs.
Take
care,
George
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:37:40 EST
From: TTurboAWD@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: 0-60(In The Rain)
In a message dated 3/11/99 2:02:37 AM Eastern
Standard Time, phnxgld@erols.com
writes:
<<
This is on Pzeros, which probably aren't the best winter tire.
Hell,
I'd bet a stock VR4 could hit 60 mph in under 6 seconds in the
rain. >>
******** I don't know what a stock one would
do,but I can verify that one
with a bleeder
can run a 4.73 sec 0-60 in a hard rain.(Hey,I was
bored)
Wayne 3SI
#87
'91 Stealth TT
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:43:41 EST
From: Lomcevak@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: lash
adjuster question
Hello all,
I have a
question concerning the hydraulic valve lash adjusters that I
thought was a
simple one, but that I have yet get a real answer
to.....
Basically, I want to know if the adjusters have to be bled
and FULL of oil
when they are installed. Before you answer - a little more
info.
The problem I am having is the (front exhaust) camshaft
not rotating freely
even when all the rockers are rolling on the cam baseline
(none on any of the
lobes exerting pressure on the valve springs).
This happens if I assemble everything with the adjusters FULL and bled. If
I
slightly depress the adjusters to allow some freeplay during assembly, the
cam
turns freely.
So back to my question - if I install the
adjusters minus a little oil, will
they bleed out and remain adjusted
properly? Or will they fill and bind again?
Do I have a geometry / valve
height problem that is causing the cam binding?
Hope this
was at least somewhat clear.
- SteveC
P.S. I have talked to a couple different Mitsu tech reps and still
no
anwser...
Thanks in advance for any answers or even clever
guesses
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:08:37 -0700
From: "PHorschel" <phorschel@utah-inter.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Clutch Bleeding
Hello all,
I recently had to replace
the rubber hydraulic line that runs from the
clutch housing to the
firewall. I was wondering if there is a certain way
that the clutch
should be bled. I bled the clutch with the same technique
as bleeding a
brake. Now it doesn't feel the same as it did before. It
seems to
not want to go into gear easily from a stop, as if the clutch is
still
partially engaged. It is also harder to shift while driving.
My
question is:
Do you guys have a special technique for this? Also
what type of fluid
should I run in there? DOT 4 brake
fluid?
Thank you for any thoughts.
Paul Horschel
93
VR4
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:32:29 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Crankshaft turning
Anybody out there who has rebuilt they're
engine (Bob, Arty, Jack, Adam)
know of a highly competent place to have a
crankshaft turned and polished?
I don't trust anybody here in memphis (I'll
probably get a response like;
"uhh, that there's not no 5 liter") Or does
anybody have a NEW crank and
bearing set for sale?
Wayne
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:32:47 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Clutch Bleeding
Hi Paul,
> I recently had to
replace the rubber hydraulic line that runs from the
> clutch housing to
the firewall. I was wondering if there is a certain way
> that the
clutch should be bled. I bled the clutch with the same technique
>
as bleeding a brake. Now it doesn't feel the same as it did before.
It
> seems to not want to go into gear easily from a stop, as if the
clutch is
> still partially engaged. It is also harder to shift
while driving. My
> question is:
> Do you guys have a special
technique for this? Also what type of fluid
> should I run in
there? DOT 4 brake fluid?
Install a 10mm x 1.0 Speedbleeder bleed
screw for $6.50, part # SB1010.
I use Valvoline's new synthetic DOT 4 in
clutch & brakes. It's boiling
point is over 500 degrees and a big
bottle cheap, < $5 or maybe < $10.
With a Speedbleeder, you just
open the screw, attach a hose and put the
other end in a catch can, then pump
the clutch pedal slowly a few times
until the fluid that comes out is
clean. Just keep topping off the
resevoir until you're done. I
did mine with the engine off, even though
the clutch is vacuum assisted, I
think.
If you've bled the clutch and it still doesn't feel right, perhaps
there
is a problem with the clutch master cylinder or the vacuum
assist. I
currently suspect these in my '91 as the feel changes from
time to
time. It can be clunky when I first start the car.
Another
possibility, perhaps it is related to the temperature of the
tranny
fluid, i.e. smoother shifting when warm.
Good
luck,
Ken
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Ken Middaugh
General Atomics
San
Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:34:10 -0700
From: Ricardo Cousar <rcousar@uswest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Racers
I am trying to get a race team organized for this years, Pikes
Peak Hill
Climb. If anyone is interested in this please e-mail me.
Since, the
Hill Climb has many classes of races, all vehicles are
welcome. I am
especially interested in anyone that has 93 or above
stock or almost
stock turbo vehicle. All vehicles entering the race will have
to be
equipped with a roll cage. Here is the link to the Hill
Climb
associations web page, it has technical information and general
race
info is located on this site. http://www.ppihc.com .
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:50:00 -0600
From: Jeff Crabtree <wjcrabtree@sprintmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Car cover
Ok,
the time has come that I
start thinking about a car cover for old
girl. Unfortunately, I'm
moving and won't have a garage to keep it in
so I'll need an "all weather"
type cover.
Can anyone make recommendations on the subject? also If
you know of a
website that deals in car covers, please list that
too.
- --
- -Jeff Crabtree
'91 Stealth R/T
Turbo(#499)
'93
Wrangler 4.0L
Sport
St. Louis, MO
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:34:26 EST
From: TJHTAX@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re:
Autopower rollbar....
Hi George,
I would like to see the pic of that
roll bar.
Thanks,
Tom 91VR-4
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:39:31 EST
From: Lomcevak@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Crankshaft turning
In a message dated 99-03-11 14:23:10 EST, you
write:
<< Anybody out there who has rebuilt they're engine (Bob,
Arty, Jack, Adam)
know of a highly competent place to have a crankshaft
turned and polished?
I don't trust anybody here in memphis (I'll
probably get a response like;
"uhh, that there's not no 5 liter") Or
does anybody have a NEW crank and
bearing set for sale?
>>
I don't recommend turning the crank. Some of them
(hardened) are
specifically noted not to be turned in the Mits 6G72 overhaul
manual. The main
and rod bearings are very finicky. Also Mits does not offer
undersize bearings
for all the early model engines. The bearings are matched
to the new cranks by
a proprietary color code. My first rebuild (with turned
crank) lasted 40 miles
before spinning a rod bearing. The exact cause could
not be determined ( I did
not do the work).
If you decide to get a
new crank and bearings (highly recommended) , West
Broad Mitsubishi in
Richmond, Va sold me mine at cost (approx $800 for
everything except thrust
bearings). Regular dealer price is more than that for
the crank alone. Make
sure you identify the exact year and model and get the
right size bearings -
'93 and up are fitted bearings.
SteveC
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:00:53 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Crankshaft turning
Wayne,
Don't do it man! The
manual warns against it and even describes a way to
tell if it's ever been
done. There's a special coating on the journals that
turns dull gray if
it's been turned. You can get away with some light
polishing with 1200
grit wet/dry sandpaper but machining it is a no-no.
- -Bob
>
Anybody out there who has rebuilt they're engine (Bob, Arty, Jack, Adam)
>
know of a highly competent place to have a crankshaft turned and
polished?
> I don't trust anybody here in memphis (I'll probably get a
response like;
> "uhh, that there's not no 5 liter") Or does anybody have
a NEW crank and
> bearing set for sale?
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:38:34 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: : Autopower rollbar....
Hey, For those of you interested.
If we get enough people together for a
purchase, I have arranged a price of
310.00 Plus shipping for the autopower
roll bar.
The price of the bar
should be secured up front, as I believe we can have
the bars drop
shipped.
Speak with Tim Meyers at Reigning Performance about these
bars.
Thanks,
> Brad
> Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:25:15 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: : Autopower rollbar....
Hey, For those of you
interested. If we get enough people together for a
purchase, I have
arranged a price of 310.00 Plus shipping for the autopower
roll
bar.
The price of the bar should be secured up front, as I believe we can
have
the bars drop shipped.
Speak with Tim Meyers at Reigning
Performance about these bars.
Correction: 512-454-4600 ( I forgot
the #)
Thanks,
> Brad
> Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:26:38 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: FW:
Need to borrow pre-cats
I have a set or pre-cat eliminators being made by
a local shop.
Although not complete yet, I saw them yesterday and they
are
looking very good.
However, I told them they could hack up
my precats in order to
use the stock flanges to save some time. The
fabricator says
that if he is supplied a set of precats he will make a
proper jig
and have the flanges laser cut. My understanding is that
there
are some differences between the 91-93 and 94+ precats. If this
is indeed true then I suppose we'd need two sets of donors, or
one set
for each year where they are different.
The cats would be returned
in original condition, but that
transaction would be between the donor and
the local shop. Mine
are costing me around $300 for the set which
includes the bung
for the O2 sensors and the EGR on the rear one. A
firm price for
production units is yet to be determined and would be up to
the
fabricator. He did say he could provide JetHot ceramic coating
(they are local here in Phoenix) if desired for an additional
charge.
Mine are considered prototypes so according to the fabricator any
future sets will likely be better quality depending upon how well
mine
work out.
Any takers? Please email privately with positive
responses at
beking@home.com.
Regards,
Barry
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:49:44 -0800
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject:
Team3S: 1996+ TT cars DO HAVE a pressure sensor !
Surfing around on the
3S CD I found an interesting part on the top back of the
manifold of the
1996+ TT cars : a MDP. They call it manifold differential
pressure sensor and
this means that for any reason Mitsu added it to the car.
The output is
directly attached to the ECU and therefore provides real manifold
pressure
compared to the calculated one in our older cars.
Does anybody know more
about the use of this sensor (boost-dependant fuel cut,
etc.)
?
Thanks,
Roger
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:40:27 -0800
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Car cover
There is a cover called "Evolution 1". Some of the
Camaro/Firebird firends say
that it's perfect but expensive too. I can't say
where it is from but it's maybe
worth to search on the web for the
name.
Hope this helps :)
Roger
> the
time has come that I start thinking about a car cover for old
>
girl. Unfortunately, I'm moving and won't have a garage to keep it
in
> so I'll need an "all weather" type cover.
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:47:35 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: Autopower rollbar....
>Hi George,
>I would like to see the
pic of that roll bar.
>Thanks,
I'd like to see som pics
of the bar installed in one of our cars!!
I am interested in the
bar buy [ not Barbe ] but the car is a
daily driver there are some
inconveniences up with which
I will not put.
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:41:43 -0600
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
lash adjuster question
Lomcevak@aol.com wrote:
> do hydraulic
valve lash adjusters have to be bled/FULL of oil
> when installed?
> if install adjusters minus a little oil, will
> they bleed
out/remain adjusted properly?
Yes, they will bleed the air out.
Manual says rev engine up and down
from idle to 3000 or some such, a few
times, and ticking goes away as
lash adjusters purge air/get
proper.
> Or will they fill/bind again?
> Do I have
geometry/valve height problem causing cam binding?
I don't know.
Unless you changed something to nonstock there should be
no
problem...
Jack Tertadian
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:03:50 EST
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
1996+ TT cars DO HAVE a pressure sensor !
In a message dated 3/11/99
8:27:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robby@swissonline.ch
writes:
<< Does anybody know more about the use of this sensor
(boost-dependant fuel
cut,
etc.) ? >>
Emissions..
OBD-II equipped VR4's tend to set the check engine light off from
time to
time due to the differential pressure sensor, but it does not
affect
performance (no fuel cut:).
Mike
'94 Stealth tt
Best et:
11.6 Best mph: 122
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:53:01 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Car cover
Mopar (Chrysler) makes one that is custom fitted for
the Stealth. On a scale of 10 it's
about an 8...or you can go crazy and get
something totally outrageous. In the end, it's
all up to
you.
Darc
92 TT Stealth...mods: moderately Stealthy
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Date:
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:41:47 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fw:
boost question for jack T. [ AKA xwing ]
What boost do you run at
the track?? 1/4 mile, with and without NOS,
also what do you run
on the street for daily driving and for street racing?
I'm trying to get a
feel for what boost is practical for a daily driver and
what is maximum boost
without a ground up rebuild [ eg. 10k to 15k dollars ]
Anyone else please
respond also. I was interested in Jacks car because i've
seen his times
posted and I've read his war stories.
Jim
Berry
------93 "arrest me red" Stealth TT
-----
SSBC @ 1.0 BAR, K&N FIPK, Magnecore wire, NGK @
.034
G--Tech 0 --60 4.9 sec. 1/4 13.3
@
110
[ suspension mods next ]
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Date:
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:55:56 +1100
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Smoked by a ZR1 -Reply
xwing wrote:
>
>
Yasuna J. Murakami wrote: [snips]
>
> > Japanese car I really
want for which I would sell 10 3000GT is mighty Nissan Skyline GTR.
> >
stock form it could give many supercars a run for its money.
> > 1000
HP is widely avaliable. has real 4 wheel steering, all
> > wheel drive,
with handling and balance to match.
Well as I mentioned a couple of weeks
back I had a drive, then had a bit
of a race with a mate's GTR 33 Vspec which
is stock . I run only 13 psi
& no other mods & my VR4 eats it for
breakfast . I wouldn't swap my VR4
for any number of GTR's,... & as for
styling ....they are a nice
"family" looking car.
Oh & by the way I
know a bloke who is putting out 600hp from his GTR &
the engine mods have
cost him $20k Aust ( about $13k US ) so work out
how much it would cost to
get it to 1000 hp, I don't know how widely
available they are either. I never
heard of one down here & there are
heaps of GTR's
around.
Andrew
Australia
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