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Date:
Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:03:54 EST
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Bad
yet Good day at the track!
All,
We'll
I had a bad and good day at the track today.. The weather
was
awesome, maybe a little on the hot side just over 80degrees. With
3/4 tank
full of half 93 and half Sunocco 98 pump octane gas and full
interior (only
the spare removed, which hasn't been in the car for well over
a year now:) I
pulled into Capitol raceway hoping to finally see the low
11's, but I guess
that will have to wait until another week.
However,
I did best my previous best et and mph. First run, I had the boost
set
at 1.3bar (I always run a pound or two less boost the first run to make
sure
everything is okay). I launched using my new VERY quick slip
technique
but bogged a little off the line, which resulted in a 1.817
60-foot. The car
ran great and I ended up running a 11.63 at
121.58mph! Not what I was hoping
for, but then again not bad for the
first run of the day!
During the first run I noticed the car was running
unusually rich so I leaned
the fuel a hair and turned the boost to 1.4bar for
my second pass. When I was
in the staging lanes I noticed the gear
shifter wasn't shifting properly, when
I went to shift to 5th or 6th the
shifter didn't spring back like it normally
did. I picked up the
shifter boot and everything was attached, and sence 1st,
2nd, 3rd, and 4th
gear felt 100% normal, I didn't think much of it. After the
car cooled
for 45min or so I ran it again. Launched a little more
aggressively and
the car hooked good, but then spun. Got a 1.78 60-foot. Hit
2nd
gear and the car HAULED ASS compared to my first run.. Then I
hit
5th...lol. The darn shifter was way out of wack... O well :).
Ended up with
a 12.55 at 115.56mph.
I couldn't get the car to go in
1st or 2nd gears. So I brought her back to
the parking area as best I
could in 3rd. Took off the mass-air sensor and
noticed the shifter
lever at the end of the linkage was bent. Took it off and
borrowed a
hammer to smack it straight. It seemed okay so I put everything
back
together, and drove around the parking lot. Shifted through all
gears
100% perfect.
Everything seemed fine so I drove the car back
around to the staging lanes.
After 30min. or so it was time to run so I
staged. Launched a little harder
(but still a little soft compared to
how I usually launch) and got a 1.76
60-foot. Hit second gear and
everything was going perfect, shifted to 3rd and
it was a success! The
car was pulling like crazy so I figured I was well on
my way to the low
11's.. NOPE! As soon as I went to shit to 4th the shifter
bracket
bent again, and I hit 6th.. Ended up with a
11.90 at 104.01mph.
Damn...lol.
The car wouldn't go into 1st and 2nd again, but I was
afraid if I tried
bending the shifter lever again it might break.. so I
limped home best I
could.
All in all, I'm happy I have a new best of
11.63 at 121.58mph. With a better
60-foot and 1.5bar or so, I know low
11's are just around the corner!
Hopefully Mitsu. will have the shifter
bracket/lever I need in stock, and I'll
give it another try next weekend
:).
Also at the track, my friend Jason in his '94 3000GT VR4 did
pretty well. His
first time out, with a clutch that wasn't 100%
compliant, he ran a best of
13.6 and 102.5mph with only a filter. With
a decent clutch, and a good
60-foot it looks like his car will have no
problem clicking off a few low
13's!
Before I end the mail, just would
like to say OUR CARS (3000GT VR4 and Dodge
Stealth) KICK ASS! If I had
the option to trade my car in for ANY car I
wanted, I cannot think of one car
I'd want more - period!
Thanks for reading,
TTYLater,
Mike
Mahaffey
'94 Stealth tt
Best et: 11.6 Best mph: 121.58
For info..
this is how the car was run when I ran the 11.63@121.58mph..
1.3bar
3/4 tank of
gas, half 93-Exxon and half 98-Sunocco
Full interior with spare
removed
Stock Goodyear GS-C's
NO NOS, 100% Mitsu. 3.0L and twin 15G's
providing the fun! (I don't need to
lie like some, I earned these
times!)
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Date:
Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:47:15 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: VPC Program trick :)
The code is about 4K, if my memory
serves correctly. It is a combination of
a small amount of code and the
remainder is static data. The Intel 27xxx
EPROM has built in selector
logic.
Switching while the car is running has "unpredictable"
results.
In my case, I have the 360CC injector program loaded in the
lower half and
the 550CC program in the upper half. I found that the
360CC injector
program combined with turning the gain all the way back to the
1st click
allows me to clean up the injectors and provides great
streetability. The
550CC injector program (which I haven't tried since
the rebuild) is far more
tuneable but is a "gas hog". It is the chip
I'm using at the track.
My new motor now has 2 hours on it. There
is a bad problem with my 1->2
synchro. It grinds going from 1->2
and 3->2. Wierd. They are brand new
synchros. So that prevents
me from doing any serious time trials but I will
be able to do some tuning in
3rd gear, playing with VPC settings, EPROM
selection and fuel
pressure.
> Absolutely great. A MUST for any VPC users !! I didn't
knew that
> the program is so small. How big is the program anyway ? Maybe
it also
fits in
> other addresses I'll search my good ol burner out of
my storage and will
do it
> before the installation. Have you ever
switched from "Street" to "Grrrrr"
> while running the
> car
?
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Date:
Sun, 6 Dec 1998 22:48:42 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bad yet
Good day at the track!
Way to go Mike!
What do you think the cause
of bent lingage is.
You must have one thick forearm :)
- -----Original
Message-----
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
<LotoBoost@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>;
Stealth@starnet.net <Stealth@starnet.net>
Date: Sunday,
December 06, 1998 8:05 PM
Subject: Team3S: Bad yet Good day at the
track!
>All,
>
>
> We'll
I had a bad and good day at the track today.. The weather
was
>awesome, maybe a little on the hot side just over 80degrees.
With 3/4 tank
>full of half 93 and half Sunocco 98 pump octane gas and
full interior (only
>the spare removed, which hasn't been in the car for
well over a year now:)
I
>pulled into Capitol raceway hoping to finally
see the low 11's, but I guess
>that will have to wait until another
week.
>
>However, I did best my previous best et and mph.
First run, I had the
boost
>set at 1.3bar (I always run a pound or two
less boost the first run to make
>sure everything is okay). I
launched using my new VERY quick slip
technique
>but bogged a little
off the line, which resulted in a 1.817 60-foot. The
car
>ran
great and I ended up running a 11.63 at 121.58mph! Not what I
was
hoping
>for, but then again not bad for the first run of the
day!
>
>During the first run I noticed the car was running unusually
rich so I
leaned
>the fuel a hair and turned the boost to 1.4bar for my
second pass. When I
was
>in the staging lanes I noticed the gear
shifter wasn't shifting properly,
when
>I went to shift to 5th or 6th
the shifter didn't spring back like it
normally
>did. I picked up
the shifter boot and everything was attached, and sence
1st,
>2nd, 3rd,
and 4th gear felt 100% normal, I didn't think much of it.
After
the
>car cooled for 45min or so I ran it again. Launched a
little more
>aggressively and the car hooked good, but then spun.
Got a 1.78 60-foot.
Hit
>2nd gear and the car HAULED ASS compared to my
first run.. Then I hit
>5th...lol. The darn shifter was way
out of wack... O well :). Ended up
with
>a 12.55 at
115.56mph.
>
>I couldn't get the car to go in 1st or 2nd
gears. So I brought her back to
>the parking area as best I could in
3rd. Took off the mass-air sensor and
>noticed the shifter lever at
the end of the linkage was bent. Took it off
and
>borrowed a
hammer to smack it straight. It seemed okay so I put
everything
>back together, and drove around the parking lot. Shifted
through all gears
>100% perfect.
>
>Everything seemed fine so
I drove the car back around to the staging lanes.
>After 30min. or so it
was time to run so I staged. Launched a little
harder
>(but still
a little soft compared to how I usually launch) and got a
1.76
>60-foot. Hit second gear and everything was going perfect,
shifted to 3rd
and
>it was a success! The car was pulling like
crazy so I figured I was well
on
>my way to the low 11's..
NOPE! As soon as I went to shit to 4th the
shifter
>bracket
bent again, and I hit 6th.. Ended up with a
>11.90 at
104.01mph. Damn...lol.
>
>The car wouldn't go into 1st and 2nd
again, but I was afraid if I tried
>bending the shifter lever again it
might break.. so I limped home best I
>could.
>
>All in all,
I'm happy I have a new best of 11.63 at 121.58mph. With
a
better
>60-foot and 1.5bar or so, I know low 11's are just around the
corner!
>Hopefully Mitsu. will have the shifter bracket/lever I need in
stock, and
I'll
>give it another try next weekend
:).
>
>
>Also at the track, my friend Jason in his '94 3000GT
VR4 did pretty well.
His
>first time out, with a clutch that wasn't
100% compliant, he ran a best of
>13.6 and 102.5mph with only a
filter. With a decent clutch, and a good
>60-foot it looks like his
car will have no problem clicking off a few
low
>13's!
>
>Before I end the mail, just would like to say
OUR CARS (3000GT VR4 and
Dodge
>Stealth) KICK ASS! If I had the
option to trade my car in for ANY car I
>wanted, I cannot think of one car
I'd want more - period!
>
>Thanks for
reading,
>TTYLater,
>Mike Mahaffey
>'94 Stealth tt
>Best
et: 11.6 Best mph: 121.58
>
>For info.. this is how the car was run
when I ran the 11.63@121.58mph..
>
>1.3bar
>3/4
tank of gas, half 93-Exxon and half 98-Sunocco
>Full interior with spare
removed
>Stock Goodyear GS-C's
>NO NOS, 100% Mitsu. 3.0L and twin
15G's providing the fun! (I don't need to
>lie like some, I earned these
times!)
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Sun, 06 Dec 1998 22:54:05 -0600
From: Jeff Crabtree <wjcrabtree@sprintmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Bad yet Good day at the track!
LotoBoost@aol.com wrote:
>
All,
>
> We'll I had a bad and good
day at the track today.. <<BIG SNIP>>
Damn
Mike.....impressive. You bent the linkage and didn't blow out a
syncro?!?! Don't
let Mitsu or Getrag get ahold of this
information. It'll just be another bullet for
their "There's nothing
wrong with your transmissions" gun.
- --
- -Jeff
Crabtree
'91 Stealth R/T
Turbo(#499)
'93
Wrangler 4.0L
Sport
St. Louis, MO
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 06:15:11 EST
From: TTurboAWD@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Bad yet Good day at the track!
In a message dated 12/6/98 8:06:45 PM
Eastern Standard Time, LotoBoost@aol.com
writes:
<<
All,
We'll I had
a bad and good day at the track today.. The weather
was
awesome, maybe a little on the hot side just over 80degrees.
With 3/4 tank
full of half 93 and half Sunocco 98 pump octane gas and
full interior (only
the spare removed, which hasn't been in the car for
well over a year now:) I
pulled into Capitol raceway hoping to finally
see the low 11's, but I guess
that will have to wait until another
week.
However, I did best my previous best et and mph.
First run, I had the boost
set at 1.3bar (I always run a pound or two
less boost the first run to make
sure everything is okay). I
launched using my new VERY quick slip technique
but bogged a little off
the line, which resulted in a 1.817 60-foot. The car
ran great
and I ended up running a 11.63 at 121.58mph
>>
Mike,
Congrats on the new personal best.
Looks like our cars are in the
middle of a
performance revolution. Remember
not
that
many years ago when Turbo mag ran
the article on the 1991
VR-4 that
ran a 12.80 @ 108?(Endless Performance). Everyone
seemed
to think that was amazing
"for such a heavy car." Look at us now!
Looking forward to seeing what you run with more
seasonable
weather and full
boost.
Congrats
again,
Wayne 3SI
#87
'91 Stealth TT
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:04:36 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Bad yet Good day at the track!
Mike,
Despite all of
the problems, they're still good runs - you're bound to go a
lot faster
soon. Question: Are these runs with 720 injectors? What else
did
you change?
- -Bob
> We'll
I had a bad and good day at the track today.. The
> weather
was
> awesome, maybe a little on the hot side just over
80degrees.
> With 3/4 tank
> full of half 93 and half Sunocco
98 pump octane gas and full
> interior (only
> the spare
removed, which hasn't been in the car for well over a
> year now:)
I
> pulled into Capitol raceway hoping to finally see the low
11's,
> but I guess
> that will have to wait until another
week.
>
> However, I did best my previous best et and
mph. First run, I
> had the boost
> set at 1.3bar (I
always run a pound or two less boost the first
> run to make
>
sure everything is okay). I launched using my new VERY quick
> slip
technique
> but bogged a little off the line, which resulted in a
1.817
> 60-foot. The car
> ran great and I ended up
running a 11.63 at 121.58mph >>
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:38:04 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bad yet Good
day at the track!
Mike , you sure did earn these times. Congrats &
good running.
Arty 91 VR-4
In a message dated 12/6/98 5:06:45 PM
Pacific Standard Time, LotoBoost@aol.com
writes:
<<
Thanks for reading,
TTYLater,
Mike
Mahaffey
'94 Stealth tt
Best et: 11.6 Best mph:
121.58
For info.. this is how the car was run when I ran the
11.63@121.58mph..
1.3bar
3/4
tank of gas, half 93-Exxon and half 98-Sunocco
Full interior with spare
removed
Stock Goodyear GS-C's
NO NOS, 100% Mitsu. 3.0L and
twin 15G's providing the fun! (I don't need to
lie like some, I earned
these times!)
For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:46:10 -0500
From: "Fein, Edward" <fein@strategy.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Break out the champaign! (headers)
The '94+ models detect the
disabling of said pollution control device and
activate your "Check Engine"
light.
Which is an annoying enough downside that I unblocked my EGR
line...
-Ed
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob
Fontana
The ECU closes the valve under boost, so we know there's no
detriment to
performance by running without it while in boosted state.
When cruising,
the ECU will open the valve up even when the motor is
warm. But after two
years of stick time with the block plate installed,
I was still getting 24
MPG @ 80 MPH. It's hard to tell just what the
down side of this
modification is other than "removing or modifying a
pollution control
device". :-)
- -Bob
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:50:03 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Boost / fuel cut problem
- -----Original
Message-----
From: George Kuo [mailto:amkreadgto@yahoo.com]
Sent:
Sunday, December 06, 1998 2:49 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Boost / fuel cut problem
<snip>
And my Profec
A had problems way before any of these. It worked
great for the 1st
year of use but afterwards it hasn't been working
rite at all. Major
problem with it was it wouldn't hold boost.. drops
to stock boost.
<end
of snip>
George...
I have a GReddy PRofec also. I had a problem
getting it to "learn", in fact
I never have been able to get it to run
"program A". However, there is a
"program B" process in the setup manual that
has worked for me. You might
try that. In my case, I now have true boost
control and can hold .9bar up to
redline (when it's set on 1.0bar). I'm
holding off on running >1.0bar until
I have installed an upgraded fuel
delivery system and my 15G turbos.
I have the manual if you don't, or you
can find it on GReddy's web site.
Looking forward...Chris
"Friends
don't let friends ride with me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:25:03 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: Good day at the track!
- -----Original Message-----
From:
LotoBoost@aol.com [mailto:LotoBoost@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday,
December 06, 1998 5:04 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com;
Stealth@starnet.net
Subject: Team3S:
Bad yet Good day at the track!
<snip>
Before I end the mail,
just would like to say OUR CARS (3000GT VR4 and Dodge
Stealth) KICK
ASS! If I had the option to trade my car in for ANY car I
wanted, I
cannot think of one car I'd want more - period!
Thanks for
reading,
TTYLater,
Mike Mahaffey
'94 Stealth tt
Best et: 11.6 Best
mph: 121.58
<end of
snip>
Mike...
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I'm planning on getting
to the same point by the summer of 1999, hopefully
without a bent shifter
bracket. :-)
Looking forward...Chris
"Friends don't let
friends ride with me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:05:17 EST
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Break out the champaign! (headers)
In a message dated 12/7/98 10:00:52 AM
Eastern Standard Time,
fein@strategy.com writes:
<<
The '94+ models detect the disabling of said pollution control device
and
activate your "Check Engine" light.
Which is an
annoying enough downside that I unblocked my EGR line...
>>
Yeah the '94 and newer Stealth turbos and VR4s through a code
when you block
the EGR. Any performance gains (I haven't noticed any on
my car) probably
aren't worth not knowing when something else goes wrong --
with the "check
engine" warning light lighted from the EGR all the time, you
wouldn't know if
something else went bad..
TTYLater,
Mike
Mahaffey
'94 Stealth tt
Best et: 11.6 Best mph: 121.58
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:21:37 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Boost / fuel cut problem
Hi Chris,
Thanx for the
information. My Profec had no problem learning in
both P1 and P2.
I got rid of it already, now I have a DSBC.
=)
George
- ---Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Kuo [mailto:amkreadgto@yahoo.com]
>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 1998 2:49 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Boost / fuel cut problem
>
>
<snip>
> And my Profec A had problems way before any of
these. It worked
> great for the 1st year of use but afterwards it
hasn't been working
> rite at all. Major problem with it was it
wouldn't hold boost.. drops
> to stock boost.
> <end of
snip>
>
> George...
>
> I have a GReddy PRofec
also. I had a problem getting it to "learn",
in fact
> I never have
been able to get it to run "program A". However, there
is a
> "program
B" process in the setup manual that has worked for me. You
might
> try
that. In my case, I now have true boost control and can hold
.9bar up
to
> redline (when it's set on 1.0bar). I'm holding off on
running
>1.0bar until
> I have installed an upgraded fuel delivery
system and my 15G turbos.
>
> I have the manual if you don't, or
you can find it on GReddy's web
site.
>
> Looking
forward...Chris
>
> "Friends don't let friends ride with
me"
>
> 1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
> For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:00:38 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Break out
the cham Changed to Eng. Light
Ever since I changed my ECU, my engine
light has always been on. It was a
worthwhile trade off considering the much
better performance.
Arty 91 VR-4
In a message dated 12/7/98 9:09:09 AM
Pacific Standard Time, LotoBoost@aol.com
writes:
<<
Subj: Re: Team3S: Break out the champaign! (headers)
Date: 12/7/98
9:09:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Reply-to:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
In
a message dated 12/7/98 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fein@strategy.com
writes:
<< The '94+ models detect the disabling of said
pollution control device and
activate your "Check Engine"
light.
Which is an annoying enough downside that I
unblocked my EGR line...
>>
Yeah the
'94 and newer Stealth turbos and VR4s through a code when you block
the
EGR. Any performance gains (I haven't noticed any on my car)
probably
aren't worth not knowing when something else goes wrong --
with the "check
engine" warning light lighted from the EGR all the
time, you wouldn't know if
something else went
bad..
TTYLater,
Mike Mahaffey
'
>>
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:17:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
Hi all,
I've been looking off-an-on
for a year or so, trying to see if anyone has
developed a replacement set of
headlights for the pre-94 vehicles. I saw
a pic of some cool
low-profile pop-ups on a demo car at the Japanese Auto
Salon last year, but
have no idea whose site was hosting the picture or
who prepared that
car. It was a wicked purple and black color scheme, as
I
recall.
I did some digging around, but couldn't find any vendors, and
even toyed
with designing my own version. (I decided I didn't have the
time or money
to go back to school for a degree in Applied Optics...)
But I've drawn
blanks across the board.
So my question is three-fold,
I guess:
Anyone have any recollection of the car I mention above?
If so, do you have any ideas how I can get more info on the
headlights
they used?
Anyone have any other ideas or suggestions on
low-profile replacements for
the pop-ups? I'm not interested in fixed
lights, like the 94+, but I
would like something different from
stock.
Thanks.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
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because the application of accurate
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Date:
Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:48:49 PST
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
Dennis,
Many drivers of the
GTO equivilants have done a simple modification that
rasise the stock light
to half it's height, giving it a low profile
look.
throught http://www.3si.org/members/mem_links.html
one or more of the
links will take you to a .jp site where you can see
it.
Now I'm not proposing that it would work, but modifying the lights to
be
on, then cranking the hand adjustment to where you want it may be very
in-expensive.
I've been waiting for someone to post the real
instructions on the mod
to me to post on
3si.
EricL
3siD#0500
>Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:17:42 -0500
(EST)
>From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject:
Team3S: Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>Hi
all,
>
>I've been looking off-an-on for a year or so, trying to see
if anyone
has
>developed a replacement set of headlights for the
pre-94 vehicles. I
saw
>a pic of some cool low-profile pop-ups
on a demo car at the Japanese
Auto
>Salon last year, but have no idea
whose site was hosting the picture or
>who prepared that car. It was
a wicked purple and black color scheme,
as
>I recall.
>
>I
did some digging around, but couldn't find any vendors, and even
toyed
>with designing my own version. (I decided I didn't have
the time or
money
>to go back to school for a degree in Applied
Optics...) But I've drawn
>blanks across the
board.
>
>So my question is three-fold, I
guess:
>
>Anyone have any recollection of the car I mention
above?
>
>If so, do you have any ideas how I can get more
info on the headlights
>they used?
>
>Anyone have any other
ideas or suggestions on low-profile replacements
for
>the
pop-ups? I'm not interested in fixed lights, like the 94+, but
I
>would like something different from
stock.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dennis Moore
>stealth@kiva.net
>
>There are no
*stupid* people in this world, only *ignorant* ones.
>
>Ignorance is
a good problem, because the application of accurate
>information can help
people get over it.
>
>However, ignorance combined with arrogance
closely resembles stupidity.
>
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Date:
Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:18:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
Hmm, wouldn't that radically diminish the
effectiveness of the lights? I
mean, they'd be point significantly
downward, instead of nearly
horizontally.
Guess I need to add a new
specification to my wish list: street-legal and
without adverse impact to
night drivability.
Thanks for the link, though. I'll check it
out.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998,
Eric Lotter wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Many drivers of the GTO
equivilants have done a simple modification that
> rasise the stock light
to half it's height, giving it a low profile
> look.
>
>
throught http://www.3si.org/members/mem_links.html
one or more of the
> links will take you to a .jp site where you can see
it.
>
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Date:
Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:25:35 PST
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
The Lights never "tip" toward the
street or at any angle, in a sense,
they never "flip" up they more like rise
from the resting position, this
is how the"flash to pass" mechanism works.
(Read as they are always
horizontal)
If you were to remove the
dispersion plastic just infront of the
headlight, and replace it with a
clear plastic, or nothing at all, you
could use the light at full strength
as it sits.
EricL
3siD#0500
>Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:18:10
-0500 (EST)
>From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject:
Re: Team3S: Low-Profile Pop-Up Headlights
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>Hmm,
wouldn't that radically diminish the effectiveness of the lights?
I
>mean, they'd be point significantly downward, instead of
nearly
>horizontally.
>
>Guess I need to add a new
specification to my wish list: street-legal
and
>without adverse
impact to night drivability.
>
>Thanks for the link, though.
I'll check it out.
>
>Dennis Moore
>stealth@kiva.net
>
>On Mon, 7 Dec
1998, Eric Lotter wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>>
Many drivers of the GTO equivilants have done a simple modification
that
>> rasise the stock light to half it's height, giving it a low profile
>> look.
>>
>> throught http://www.3si.org/members/mem_links.html
one or more of the
>> links will take you to a .jp site where you can
see it.
>>
>
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Subject:
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Date:
Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:19:03 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S:
Gud'ay eh... hosers.
Mike...it seems like you had much more of a good
day recently, than a
bad one...would that we all could turn those times with
a buggered
linkage/shift arm. Gud on ya mate, to paraphrase Andrew's
countrymen!
Now, you just have to differentiate between arm quickness, and
arm
strength! We're talking a strong arm here to do the bend job
you
described.
And, with Chris now moving into the fast lane
with his new
acquisitions, I expect we'll be hearing of another 3S eating up
the hot
shots! It's nice to see that Hau's stuff remained in the family and
that
a deserving guy is going to use it. I know Errin will be putting
the
remainder to good use, and smoking the competition in the Seattle
area.
Now, if I can just get off this rain swept Isle and find some open
dry
road to fine tune my own modest mods on....and maybe meet up with
some
of you west coasters.
Darc
Victoria
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