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> Now the question. What are
the chances I did damage to the pistons/rings?
I'm a little bit more
critical than Barry (no flame broh) as I ignored this
signs too much. I agree
with Barry about the gap of the plugs as this may cause
some miss that
finally interprets the ECU as knock and therefore retards the
timing
heavily.
The overboost you had was not really dangerous, but I'm
wondering about the
early stumbeling if the plugs are gapped correctly around
0.034. My advice : If
you regap the plugs do an easy compression test at the
same time. I'm pretty
sure you have no problems but it's a good feeling to
KNOW that everything is
fine. The pistons are fine for sure but the stock
rings are not the best you can
get
:)
Regards,
Roger
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Barry,
Here is what they
say...
Matt
www.AcceleratedAccessories.com>Hi
Matt here we go. ROSS custom 3000GT pistons. These pistons
were
>made using the latest advances in piston technology. This is NOT a
3000
>stock piston casting or copy, it is a proprietary casting that looks
oval
>when viewed. The ring pack has been moved down to keep the rings
away from
>the combustion chamber,since the rings have been moved down
toward the pin,
>oil support rails are included. 4 anti detonation grooves
have been cut
into
>the top of the piston to help quell detonation. The
piston rides on a
>slipper skirt forging for minimum contact area on the
cylinder walls to
>decrease friction, and the forging was made in such a
way to make the
piston
>as light as possible without having to use the
milling machine to carve out
>the excess weight. The material 2618T-61,
and machining they use also allow
>you to run a little tighter piston to
wall clearance, so you don't sound
>like a diesel truck when you are
running. The piston pins are $$ costly
>0.866 Super Duty 4340 taper wall
pins that are full floating and come with
>Spirolox, along with the
pistons being machined with lock removal indents.
>The pins have already
been precision cut, fit, and chamfered, their already
>to go. The ring set
is not standard issue 3000GT either, they are Total
Seal
>rings made
for these pistons, and will NOT fit a stock 3000GT piston.
The
>compression height remains, the stock 8.0-1 as we feel that this is
optimal
>compression for turbocharged motors, and the top of the piston
is baby
>smooth with no sharp edges to help eliminate the chance of
"hot spots".
>Background on ROSS:
>ROSS leads the way,
with the latest in equipment and quality personnel to
>make a superior
piston. This is their mission; "Make the best piston money
>can
buy" regardless of price. They are not cheap, and they don't care,
or
>wheel and deal on pistons. They do very little advertising, as they
don't
>need to, they are swamped ALL the time with orders. One of the
biggest
>differences between ROSS and companies like JE, Arias, etc., is
that ROSS
>has machinery that is stae of the art, and much more up to date
and they
are
>constantly investing, to make sure that they stay ahead
of the competition.
>Their quality control checks are second to none, and
all the pistons are
>checked by optical laser, nothing gets past them. One
of the biggest thing
>that makes ROSS stand apart in respect to the piston
manufacturing is their
>"gang cutter" this is a machine that
cuts the ringlands into the piston.
The
>machine they have holds the
piston in such a way that when the cutting tool
>contacts the piston to
cut the ringlands , it is held in place VERY
rigidly,
>and the
ringlands are cut perfectly warp free, and totally flat. JE, Arias
>and
the rest have yet to buy one of these machines. You ask what does
this
>mean to me? Well, imagine this: if the ring grooves are totally warp
free
>and straight, the rings lay flat on the piston ringlands, this
is
especially
>critical when you are really revving the motor because
the rings are being
>pulled up and down, and if the rings don't have a
completely flat surface
to
>put pressure on, they tend to flutter,
because they do not have the full
>contact area. When the rings start to
flutter to much, this is when rings
>start to break. Also another by
product of totally flat ringlands, is
better
>sealing of the
rings.
>
>These pistons are not to be confused with lesser forged
pistons that are
>merely stock piston copies, using stock pins and stock
specs etc.These are
>the best custom pistons money can buy. Sure you can
buy cheaper pistons,
but
>that's what you get....
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Brent,
I
overboosted my 92 RT Turbo, I had a Greedy Profect Turbo Adjuster
hooked up.
Well The car seemed fine for a couple of days, but there I
started to seed
that dreaded Blue Smoke coming out my tail pipes. To make
this story short,
it cost me $4500 in Engine repairs, all new pistons rings,
and all that good
stuff. Just keep an Eye on it. Hope you don't have to go
through what I
did.
Scotty
92 Stealth RT
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> I
ran into an overboost situation tonight during a bleeder valve install.
>
During the install, I must have accidentally pulled off the sense
line
from
> the corner of the Y-pipe to the H connector. So even
though my bleeder
> valve was shut, the pressure to the waste gates was
straight to
atmosphere.
> I have an SPI boost gauge and was modulating
throttle in 2nd gear to see
> what the boost would be. On my first
run, the boost went to 16psi, so I
> pulled over and made sure the bleeder
was shut. I couldn't see any
> disconnected lines. I then went
and did another 2nd gear pull and this
time
> the boost went to 17psi
(I never had it under WOT). It stumbled three
times
> really
quick before I could get my foot off of the accelerator. It was a
>
stumble and not a face-through-the-windshield fuel cut. It was
probably
> never over 15psi on either of the two pulls for more than two
seconds.
>
> Now the question. What are the chances I did
damage to the pistons/rings?
> I have since put the sensing hose back on
and the car runs fine. No loss
in
> power that I could tell
(other than the fact it is back down to stock
> boost).
>
>
Comments please!!!!
>
> Brent M.
>
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I'm doing a clutch replacement and
can't get the RH drive shaft out of
the transmission. The shop manual
calls for prying against the housing
to remove the shaft rather than trying
to pull it out, but I can't get
it to budge more the the tiny amount of
in/out play the shaft has. It
seems like there's a clip holding it in,
but nowhere does it specify any
special steps to remove a clip. Has
anyone been through this before?
Dave
'91 RT TT
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> Sounds good. Do they require
new calipers when installed on
>> VR4s ? Anyone got an address or
phone no. for Porterfields
>> or an outfit that sells
them?
>Rich just mentioned that they work with the stock calipers
so I know I'm
>redunant for mentioning. They are just aftermarket
replacements though.
>Dave mentioned that he got his Wagner (but they
might be Warner??)
>rotors from a local parts dealer. However, I
think the cryogenically
>treated Porterfield's might be the best low cost
rotor option
>currently. Also, I made a mistake -- George is running
cross drilled
>rotors (but probably not cryo treated). Here are the
prices again:
>Porterfield
>91-93 front rotors $79 each
>94+
front rotors $99
>cryogenic treatment $40
>cross drilled
$50
>It sounds like Rich and Dave give the most punishment to rotors
since
>they are attending track events and routinely brake from 120+
mph. They
>are the only two folks that have snapped/broken rotors
completely. Dave
>should be inflicting the most punishment though
since he has the big
>Porsche caliper upgrade with Pagid pads from Brad
Bedal. Soooo, the
>Wagner (or Warner) is currently the best proven
low cost rotor to date.
Ken-
Thanks!
Regards,
ptg
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>On my mom's 95 Spyder, which has drilled rotors,
shimmies when braking.
The
>rotors feel flat and I can't figure out why
they would shimmy....Any
idea's?
Josh-
Mine and I'm sure many
others will respond that our '95 VR-4s
front brake rotors warp
severley. I have installed my third set
and they will warp soon,
causing the shimmy you have. I have no
solutions to offer, but the
lists have promising alternatives.
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>treated Porterfield's might be the
best low cost rotor option
>currently. Also, I made a mistake --
George is running cross drilled
>rotors (but probably not cryo
treated). Here are the prices
again:
>Porterfield
>91-93 front rotors $79 each
>94+
front rotors $99
>cryogenic treatment $40
>cross drilled
$50
>It sounds like Rich and Dave give the most punishment to rotors
since
>they are attending track events and routinely brake from 120+
mph.
Ken-
Thanks for the info!
Regards,
ptg
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>
>>It sounds like Rich and
Dave give the most punishment to rotors since
>>they are attending
track events and routinely brake from 120+ mph. They
>>are the
only two folks that have snapped/broken rotors completely.
Dave
>>should be inflicting the most punishment though since he has the
big
>>Porsche caliper upgrade with Pagid pads from Brad Bedal.
Soooo, the
>>Wagner (or Warner) is currently the best proven low cost
rotor to date.
>
When I described my experiences snapping PowerSlots to
the Porterfield
expert, he suggested that perhaps the rotors were breaking at
the hub
because of cornering stresses. Topeka is primarily a left-hand track
which
puts most of the stress on the right front wheel, and I did break
two
right-hand rotors on two separate occasions, both breaking in the
very
first driving session -- one on the 4th lap, one at the end of the first
20
min. session.
It does not matter, however, whether PowerSlots snap
because of excessive
heat or cornering stresses. Either way, they are not
suitable for open
track events. I don't want to use anything that might break
into two pieces
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These things can be a PITA. They
have a spring clip of some sort. Prying
by itself won't usually cut
it. What you need to try and do is get a big
wedged pry bar in there
and whack it pretty hard with a bit of pressure on
the pry bar to push the
shaft outwards. I have seen people with "the knack"
do it
with one simple blow. The percussion seems to pop the snap ring
and
with the ouutward pressure, off it comes. I was not able to pry
mine off.
Popping it with a blow or two did it. The half shafts gave me
the most
trouble. I doubt I could pull it off twice in a row. On
one side I simply
pulled it off the knuckle since the bnoot was already in
need of
replacement. Even though I had one side off I simply could not
get the
other one to budge. *shrug*
Hope that
helps.
Barry
> -----Original
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>
>
> I'm doing a clutch replacement and can't
get the RH drive shaft out of
> the transmission. The shop manual
calls for prying against the housing
> to remove the shaft rather than
trying to pull it out, but I can't get
> it to budge more the the tiny
amount of in/out play the shaft has. It
> seems like there's a clip
holding it in, but nowhere does it specify any
> special steps to remove a
clip. Has anyone been through this before?
>
> Dave
>
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The person who had the car before, had
cross dilled rotors put on, I don't
know what type. When I feel the
rotor it feels really nice and smooth and
no warping. I know on my SL
when my rotors warped, they had ridges. I was
thinking maybe the tire's
aren't balance, but could they be warped and the
rotor be
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>On my mom's 95 Spyder, which has drilled rotors,
shimmies
when braking.
The
>rotors feel flat and I can't figure out
why they would
shimmy....Any
idea's?
Josh-
Mine and I'm sure
many others will respond that our '95
VR-4s
front brake rotors warp
severley. I have installed my third
set
and they will warp soon,
causing the shimmy you have. I
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> When I feel the rotor it feels
really nice and smooth and
>no warping. I know on my SL when my
rotors warped, they had ridges. I was
>thinking maybe the tire's
aren't balance, but could they be warped and the
>rotor be
smooth?
>
you can't check warping by feeling the rotor --- you need
to use a runout gage and slowly
turn the rotor. It only takes .010 " or
so to cause shimmy. To check while driving just
slowly apply light
pressure on the brakes and if the rotors are warped the steering
wheel will
rock back and forth 1\8 " or so at the same frequency as the wheels are
turning.
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Thanks for the tip. A pickle
fork made a handy wedge, and wedging it in there clear of
the seal and giving
it a couple firm whacks made it pop right out. Once I got the
shaft
out, I got to see the culprit. The end of the shaft has a little notch
about
1/4" from the end, where a circular clip is installed. It
actually just looks like a
piece of wire in a semicircle of slightly larger
diameter. The shop manual indicates
"N" in one of the
figures for this part, which indicates non-replaceable, so I guess I
should
try to track down a replacement. What a
pain!
Thanks,
Dave
'91 RT TT
"Barry E.
King" wrote:
> These things can be a PITA. They have a
spring clip of some sort. Prying
> by itself won't usually cut
it. What you need to try and do is get a big
> wedged pry bar in
there and whack it pretty hard with a bit of pressure on
> the pry bar to
push the shaft outwards. I have seen people with "the
knack"
> do it with one simple blow. The percussion seems to
pop the snap ring and
> with the ouutward pressure, off it comes. I
was not able to pry mine off.
> Popping it with a blow or two did
it. The half shafts gave me the most
> trouble. I doubt I
could pull it off twice in a row. On one side I simply
> pulled it
off the knuckle since the bnoot was already in need of
>
replacement. Even though I had one side off I simply could not get
the
> other one to budge. *shrug*
>
> Hope that
helps.
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> >
> >
> > I'm doing a clutch
replacement and can't get the RH drive shaft out of
> > the
transmission. The shop manual calls for prying against the housing
>
> to remove the shaft rather than trying to pull it out, but I can't
get
> > it to budge more the the tiny amount of in/out play the shaft
has. It
> > seems like there's a clip holding it in, but nowhere
does it specify any
> > special steps to remove a clip. Has
anyone been through this before?
> >
> > Dave
> > '91
RT TT
>
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xwing wrote:
> > Maybe this info isn't
forthcoming because you guys want to hold on to
> > your advantage ;),
hmmm?
>
> mmmMMOOOHHHOHOHHHHhhhahhhahhaahhhhahaahhhhhh!
> Does
anybody remember Daystrom, the guy on that original Star Trek
> episode,
who built the M5 computer to run the ship but it went wild and
> destroyed
innocents, and Daystrom went mad himself? hehehe.
Hey, that's
a great episode: "The Ultimate Computer". That's
the
one where Kirk makes M5 agree that murder is bad and it should
be
punishable by death, then he convinces M5 that is has itself
committed
murder.
> it DID take me about a week in off hours, late nights, all
the while talking to
> Barry King, Jeff Wong, Tom in Idaho, Mike M,
etc on MIRC trying to keep my mouth
> shut like that mathematics wizard
who solved Fermat's last theorum with 7 years
> of work all in secret from
his best friends...
Actually, Andrew Wiles would never have solved FLT if
it wasn't
for the invaluable help of his friends/colleagues, and that
includes
some of the final pieces that fell into place. Furthermore,
after Wiles
solved it he was happy to share the knowledge with others and
make
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understand your motives to keep it under wraps
so that Mike can profit from
his efforts, and all of your benevalent
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Mike to give you good
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Joshin'
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>Acc.Acc. gave Andy the same price on the clutch as
the participants in =
the GP. I
>have not been informed by Matt or
Frank that there is another friend =
who takes
>one. But, this is what
a GP organizer is for.
>
>All: This seems to be an ongoing GP
:)
I'm not sure what this was about, but I was an original purchaser in
the =
GP on these clutches. I am and was in need for one within a 3 week
=
period so I had e-mailed, I think it was Bob Smith at RPS, and he had
=
responded that they would be out within 2 weeks or close to that not the
=
originally stated 2 months. I had figured that I would have my clutch
=
in time to reassemble my car by the Ocean City Gathering but now it
=
doesn't appear that that will happen. I'm not sure on the date that my
=
order had gone in but it appears that it wasn't soon enough to be
=
included in that quoted shipment time :( As far as others I had
=
e-mailed one person that had said that they had originally received a GP
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price before the count down had been started. The reason for this was
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that I had at that time just been quoted a price of $500 for that same
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clutch from Acc.
Acc.
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> I'm not sure what this was about, but I was an
original purchaser in the GP
> on these clutches.
This is true and
unfortunately, somehow Andy's name came into this "private
meant"
discussion. This was wrong and I'd like to apologize for that as it
caused
many confusion.
Again, sorry for that
!
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David Margrave wrote:
> The shop
manual indicates
> "N" in one of the figures for this part,
which indicates non-replaceable, so I guess I
> should try to track down a
replacement. What a pain!
>
Hi Dave;
I must be missing
something here. I don't understand why you want to replace a non
replaceable
part. Is it broken, damaged, lost, unretrievable, or for some reason
you're
unable to reuse it? I know it is nice to put new parts in,
particularly small cheap things
that may may fail and compromise your work,
but isn't non replaceable non replaceable?
However, on the other side of the
things, if you find a part # be sure and post it for
future reference
:-)
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>David Margrave
wrote:
>
>> The shop manual indicates
>>
"N" in one of the figures for this part, which indicates
non-replaceable, so I guess I
>> should try to track down a
replacement. What a pain!
>>
. I don't understand why you want
to replace a non
>replaceable part. Is it broken, damaged, lost,
unretrievable, or for some reason you're
>unable to reuse it?
>
>
The confusion is the use of the term non-replaceable, the
proper term is non-reusable.
Some parts stretch or otherwise deform when
installed, used or removed, therefore
they want you to use a new part.
In
this case, sense it's a retainer clip it could probably be reused, as long as
its not bent
and is in no danger of coming off of the shaft.
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Oskar,
We ended up with enough for
the $450 price on the turbo clutch carbon which
is excellent for a $649
clutch.
Frank
www.AcceleratedAccessories.com
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>Roger and Frank,
>did we get enough participants to get
into the better price brackets?
>Oskar
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GP
>
>
>>Roger,
>>Andy is a participant in the GP.
He ordered at the same time as
everyone
>>else.
>>Frank
>>www.AcceleratedAccessories.com
>>-----Original
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>
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sorry I'm so lame, but I can't figure out how to get
the clutch bearing
off the trans input shaft. The shop manual shows a
snap ring, but I
can't find one except the one holding the input shaft in,
which I'm not
going to screw with.
you wouldn't BELIEVE how much crud
was inside the bellhousing!
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I have a few thing from a 92 3000GT SL for sale, The
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In a message dated 5/2/99 10:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight
Time,
davidma@premier1.net writes:
> sorry I'm so lame, but I
can't figure out how to get the clutch bearing
> off the trans input
shaft. The shop manual shows a snap ring, but I
> can't find
one except the one holding the input shaft in, which I'm not
> going
to screw with.
>
> you wouldn't BELIEVE how much crud
was inside the bellhousing!
Hey Dave,
I'm doing my clutch
right now also. The transaxle just came out a couple
of hours
ago. The fork is held on the pivot ball with a snap spring of some
kind. I just popped it off the ball and the release bearing came right
off.
-Dave Rich
'91 R/T TT
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PROBLEM #1
Okay, so I have a California stock 92 Vr-4
with a newly installed 92 GTO
engine.
The car ran fine for 3 weeks, then
I had an injection malfuncion.
Replaced the injectors
Since then the car
has not ran properly
When I try to boost slowly the car goes kind of okay,
BUT when I try to give
it a little horse power the boost cuts out and my
exhaust sounds choppy.
Apparently I'm not getting enough fuel pressure
or something becaue my car
idles extremely rough.
PROBLEM #2
If I
hold my foot on the gas and try to keep it at a constant RPM like say
1000 or 2000....
the rpm will jump up and down like from 700 to
1000 back to 700 or 2000 to
1700 back to 2000
etc...... the car idles up and down.
PROBLEM#3
Had a new tranny
installed 20,000 miles ago. The tranny still pops out of
gear at
times, but no where near the degree as the old "bad" tranny did. And
sometimes the shifting feels tight and quick and at others feels longer, and
dry-er (less fluid)
PROBLEM#4
At various speeds when the car runs
at 2600 to 3000 rpm a low vibration
rattles the car
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First a little background. I have
been working on cars most of my life (I
am 24) and consider myself a pretty
good mechanic. I have a one car garage
with a dirt floor (which I plan
to concrete very soon) and a good set of
general automotive tools. (metric
included) I just bought a 91 Stealth TT
with 72,000 miles on the
odometer and I am not sure if the timing belt was
ever changed. I do
want to change all fluids over to synthetic,add
underdrive pulleys and
install a Borla cat-back system. While I have
everything apart I figure
I can inspect the timing belt and determine if the
belt has been
changed. Here come the questions. :-)
1. Is this something
that can be tackled by someone with reasonable
mechanical
ability?
2. Is there any special tools I will need to change the timing
belt?
3. I was told by a tech at Nexus that if the belt was not changed
by 72,000
miles, there is a good chance it would have broken by now. Is
this your
experience?
4. Is the Borla system an easy bolt on, and is
it worth changing? I have
seen some opinions that it really does not
help unless you are upgrading
turbo's and fuel system. I have to admit
I would do it anyway just for the
sound.
I think that's enuff for
tonight, but I am sure I will have more later. :-)
TIA,
Kevin
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Rich, everyone,
I suggested this
awhile back, and it was dismissed.
This is a valid idea, what if your wheel
bearings/ hubs were flexing?
My concern is that maybe the hub is flexing
causing something to be out of
shape.
The MR2 upgraded their hubs for
"steering feel" in 1994, thus telling the
public that the
hub/bearing assembly was flexing.
Don't get me wrong, but the rotors
could be defective, and most likely are.
I have always believed in looking
past the broken part for other things
wrong.
E.G.: Piston ring lands
broken = detonation not defective piston etc...
> Brad
Check out my
home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
> E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ# 3612682
When I described my experiences
snapping PowerSlots to the Porterfield
expert, he suggested that perhaps the
rotors were breaking at the hub
because of cornering stresses. Topeka is
primarily a left-hand track which
puts most of the stress on the right front
wheel, and I did break two
right-hand rotors on two separate occasions, both
breaking in the very
first driving session -- one on the 4th lap, one at the
end of the first 20
min. session.
It does not matter, however, whether
PowerSlots snap because of excessive
heat or cornering stresses. Either way,
they are not suitable for open
track events. I don't want to use anything
that might break into two pieces
and render my vehicle unbrakable again. The
last time was kinda
frightening, when the brakes went at about 100 mph with a
tight right
approaching. A long runoff area saved my big
butt.
Rich/old poop/Somebody stop me!
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> 1. Is this something that can
be tackled by someone with reasonable
> mechanical ability?
Yes!!
If you have the time and patience to try. I'm 19, and i consider
myself to
have good mechanic ability, but i sure wouldn't say i'm a great
mechanic (you
can never know everything and you always learn something new
everyday!). I
did my water pump, timing belt and generally cleaned out the
throttle body,
intake plenum and intake manifold myself (almost 3 to 4 mm of
carbon buildup
in the manifold!!!). I also changed the springs, installed an
alarm and
finalized my mp3 comptuer install while i was at it. I can't say
i've ever
been able to control my cursing when no one's around (some of the
neighbors
may have overheard though). I didn't come across any major
problems. Just
hassles along the way. As long as you have your manual by
your side, you
_shouldn't_ have any problems. And patience is something you
may already know
is required.
> 2. Is there any special tools I will need to
change the timing belt?
Yes, you'll need a tool to tension the timing
belt. i believe the part
number is 998767. if you can't find it at any
dealer, you can get it
straight from miller special tools
1-800-801-5420.
> 3. I was told by a tech at Nexus that if the
belt was not
> changed by 72,000
> miles, there is a good chance it
would have broken by now. Is this your
> experience?
My car
has a hair over 80k miles on it. The timing belt never broke, and i
didn't
see any signs of it doing so. My water pump went out, which was the
reason
(and excuse) to do the timing belt. There are stories of some
breaking at 50k
and others at 120k. I guess it depends on the conditions the
car has been
through and how it's been treated/maintaned.
> 4. Is the Borla
system an easy bolt on, and is it worth changing? I have
> seen some
opinions that it really does not help unless you are upgrading
> turbo's
and fuel system. I have to admit I would do it anyway
> just for
the
> sound.
Wouldn't know about that. But most people seem to be
happy with it. It's a
step in the right direction on the upgrade path ;)
Every little bit adds up.
>
> I think that's enuff for tonight,
but I am sure I will have more
> later. :-)
>
> TIA,
>
Kevin Schappell
Omar
92 r/t
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>I suggested this awhile back, and it was
dismissed.
>This is a valid idea, what if your wheel bearings/ hubs were
flexing?
How do you check that? We've done the normal
grab-the-wheel-and-shake-it
test, and everything seems normal.
Rich/old poop/somebody stop me!
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TRANNY----STILL CAR TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Problem 1: Are you sure the injectors are the
correct replacements? Could
the GTO have had a different set of
injectors?
Sounds like you have a misfire, I would look at plug wires
and connections
to your injectors. Sounds like you have a boost leak, or
something
misfiring. Maybe when you replaced the injectors you messed
something up?
Look at the Y-pipe gasket, and all the injector insulators,
along with all
hose clamps.
Problem2: problem 1 and 2 are related,
see problem 1.
As for 3 & 4. Something is lose or the tranny is
bad. You might check your
rear motor mount also.
> Brad
Check
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>
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PROBLEM #1
Okay, so I have a California stock 92 Vr-4 with a
newly installed 92 GTO
engine.
The car ran fine for 3 weeks, then I had an
injection malfuncion.
Replaced the injectors
Since then the car has not
ran properly
When I try to boost slowly the car goes kind of okay, BUT when I
try to give
it a little horse power the boost cuts out and my exhaust sounds
choppy.
Apparently I'm not getting enough fuel pressure or something becaue
my car
idles extremely rough.
PROBLEM #2
If I hold my foot on the
gas and try to keep it at a constant RPM like say
1000 or
2000....
the rpm will jump up and down like from 700 to 1000 back to
700 or 2000
to
1700 back to 2000 etc...... the car
idles up and down.
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I have no clue! Since the stress
on the hub/bearing assembly will be great
with race tires and hard driving I
simply don't see how one could check this
theory. I am sure there is a way to
mark things and look for stress areas.
> Brad
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>I suggested this awhile
back, and it was dismissed.
>This is a valid idea, what if your wheel
bearings/ hubs were flexing?
How do you check that? We've done the normal
grab-the-wheel-and-shake-it
test, and everything seems normal.
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Does anyone have that number for the max amount of
material you can have
machined off the flywheel? I think it was like
0.5 mm or 0.1 mm
Almost there!
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> PROBLEM
#1
> Okay, so I have a California stock 92 Vr-4 with a newly installed 92
GTO
> engine.
> The car ran fine for 3 weeks, then I had an
injection malfuncion.
> Replaced the injectors
> Since then the car
has not ran properly
> When I try to boost slowly the car goes kind of
okay, BUT when I try to give
> it a little horse power the boost cuts out
and my exhaust sounds choppy.
> Apparently I'm not getting enough fuel
pressure or something becaue my car
> idles extremely
rough.
>
> PROBLEM #2
> If I hold my foot on the gas and try
to keep it at a constant RPM like say
> 1000 or 2000....
> the
rpm will jump up and down like from 700 to 1000 back to 700 or
2000 to
> 1700 back to 2000 etc...... the car idles up and
down.
Sounds like the Mass Air Sensor wiring harness is not connected or
not fully
contacting the mass air sensor. Check the harness and wires
and contacts
on it, you know the thing the airfilter is attached to.
Still, usually the car idles
ok with that harness off.
Maybe the cams
are not on the right teeth of cambelt/are out of synch.
Maybe the hose to
the fuel pressure regulator is not on or is going to
wrong port on
manifold/hose junction.
The fact that it is Japanese engine should not
change matters, as you still
have your old stock computer and massair
sensor.
>
> PROBLEM#4
> At various speeds when the car
runs at 2600 to 3000 rpm a low vibration
> rattles the car
>
seemingly from underneath the floorboard.
>
Maybe bad bearing on
one of the driveshafts going to back of car.
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Tertadian
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I don't think flex of bearings/hub assy is large
contributor here.
I have never heard of such a thing being any significant
factor,
but that doesn't mean much. However--
In OUR cars which are
designed heavy-duty because they
are heavy and AWD so driving AND braking via
front wheels,
it is less likely than some brand X cars.
If true, why
does no other brand of rotor do this?
Do the rotors come off as a solid ring,
or are they fractured
THROUGH one of those "slots" or grooves in
the rotors?
The brake calipers have pistons that are able to move in
and
out, if there was a significant force put against them in
one
direction (rotor tilting over due to bearing/hub flex)
the pistons
would adjust to that force by sliding over the small
distance.
The
force applied by BRAKE pressure is EQUAL on both
sides of the caliper so
cancels out, leaving only the net force by
such a proposed "bending of
hub assy" as remainder, and the
caliper pots move pretty easily,
certainly WAY easier than the
amount of force needed to BREAK OFF a STEEL
brake disc
from its hub!!
Any force applied on-axis to the
rotor (BRAKING force)
from caliper should never snap off a good/properly
designed
rotor. Well, never is a long time but Powerslots are WAY
off
my list, for ever...
Jack Tertadian
Brad Bedell
wrote:
> wheel bearings/ hubs were flexing?
> maybe hub
flexing causing something to be out of shape.
> MR2 upgraded
hubs in 1994, telling public hub/bearing assembly
flexing.
> rotors could be defective, likely
are.
>
> snapping PowerSlots to the Porterfield
>
expert, he suggested that perhaps the rotors were breaking at the hub
>
because of cornering stresses.
> It does not matter, however, whether
PowerSlots snap because of excessive
> heat or cornering stresses. Either
way, they are not suitable for open
> track events.
>
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Kevin Schappell wrote: 91 Stealth TT
Timing Belt Change:
> 1. Is this something that can be tackled
by someone with reasonable
> mechanical ability?
Yes, but make sure
you line up the teeth/cam sprockets right. I would
also change the cam
tensioner device, some have gone bad after timing
belt change. Consider
changing water pump.
> 2. Is there any special tools I will need
to change the timing belt?
There is timing belt tensioner tool that helps
some.
>
> 3. I was told by Nexus that if belt not changed
by 72,000
> there is good chance would have broken by
now.
False. The chances are highly likely it would NOT have broken
but would
keep going fine for a long time. It is just that wear is not
same for all cars,
or belts, and 60,000 was the point Mitsu set as
"safety time" to change so the
vast majority of cars would have
seen NO problems yet.
> 4. Is the Borla system an easy bolt on,
and is it worth changing? I have
> seen some opinions that it really
does not help unless you are upgrading
> turbo's and fuel system. I
have to admit I would do it anyway just for the
>
sound.
>
Borla sounds cool. It helps high rpm hp some, not
alot (?1-3mph quartermile) but
the more you modify, the more air you ask exh
to carry, the more it will help. Gutting
main cat helps.
Jack
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hey guys,
I have a bizzare
problem, as soon as the car (95 vr4) moves forward or
back a few
feet after
starting it, whether the first time or as a test over and over,the
power
dips down. the head lights dip and the electrical system
seems to
take a dip also. it comes back and is fine the rest of the trip...
Any
ideas?
weak battery?
charging system?
some controller?
it almost
seems that it is during the diagnostic sequence..
BTW My anti lock break
light is on full time due to a faulty motor relay. i
have not had a chance to
get to this yet
any connection?
thanx
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>Do the rotors come off as a solid ring, or are they
fractured
>THROUGH one of those "slots" or grooves in the
rotors?
They break cleanly at the hub, leaving two perfect pieces:
a
solid ring and a hub, with nary a fracture mark on them.
>Powerslots
are WAY off
>my list, for ever...
Amen to that.
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I am selling the 3000GT Service Manual CD. I bought
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Folks,
I've recently been trying
to track down some throttle response issues with
my car. I seem to have
recently (within the last couple of weeks) lost some
pick-up. I changed
the front 3 plugs a few weeks before that with factory
stock plugs. Also
changed the stock air filter.
Just before the pick-up loss, I filled with
Sunoco 94 octane, and added some
STP injector cleaner. Since then, I've
burned that tank of gas, and am
halfway through a tank of BP 92 octane.
I
regularly fill up (for the last 30k miles) with 92 octane BP gas, to try
and
stay consistent with what I put in it. Anyways, I was just speaking with
a
co-worker who used to work at a Porsche/Audi dealership, and he asked me
what
brand of gas I use. When I told him BP, he said that they
were
bodily-threatened by the Service Manager at the dealership to never use
BP
gas in the cars, as the additional alcohol deteriorates the fuel
injector
o-rings , causing them to suck air past the seal. He sited one or
two cases
that he has witnessed.
Now, is this an old-wives tale? Is he
correct and his old Service Manager
correct? What about the millions of cars
running it regulary? I generally
take most word-of-mouth tales with a grain
of salt, but it has me thinking
now....
Any input would be
appreciated!
-Mike
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Michael:
>Since then, I've burned that tank of
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>am
>halfway through a tank of BP 92
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>he said that they
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When I told him BP, he said that they
were
>bodily-threatened by the Service Manager at the dealership to never
use BP
>gas in the cars, as the additional alcohol deteriorates the fuel
injector
>o-rings , causing them to suck air past the seal. He sited one
or two cases
>that he has witnessed. >Now, is this an old-wives tale?
Is he correct and
his old Service Manager
>correct? What about the
millions of cars running it regulary? I generally
>take most word-of-mouth
tales with a grain of salt, but it has me thinking
>now....
>
A
few years ago, a fuel injector failed in my 89 Olds Cutlass, and my
mechanic
attributed it to using ethanol. He said it eats away the
insulation, and
shorts out the injector. It only took one failure to shut
down the engine,
but 3 of the 6 injectors were bad.
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>>Do the rotors come off
as a solid ring, or are they fractured
>>THROUGH one of those
"slots" or grooves in the rotors?
>
>They break cleanly at
the hub, leaving two perfect pieces:
>a solid ring and a hub, with nary a
fracture mark on them.
Were the rotors returned to the
manufacturer?? And if so what was their response?
>From a liability point
of view they can't just ignore a failure of that nature. I would
think a
carefully worded letter from the law firm of Dewey, Phukm & Howe
would
get their attention and force an explanation of the
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>
>Were the rotors returned to the manufacturer??
And if so what was their
response?
When I broke the first one, I sent
it back. They sent me two new ones (a
left and a right), allegedly from a
different batch, and said not to use to
leftover left rotor.
When I
broke the second one, I told them I did not trust the rotors any
more, and
they said they would refund the original purchase price. I am
waiting, even
as we speak, for UPS to come get all three rotors.
I bought them through
Foreign Auto Tech in Millbrae, CA, and they have been
very helpful and
cooperative. They are the ones who spoke with the
manufacturer. It cost me
nothing to send the parts back, because they send
UPS out to get them. Buncha
nice guys out there.
>>From a liability point of view they can't
just ignore a failure of that
nature. I would
>think a carefully
worded letter from the law firm of Dewey, Phukm & Howe
would
>get
their attention and force an explanation of the failure.
If I had hit
anything when the second rotor broke, I think I would have
whispered a few
love words in their corporate ears along the lines of what
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Are you sure you're thinking of ethanol eating parts? I've
used it for years
in my cars and never had any problems. When
"gasohol" first appeared there
was some stations using ethanol, and
others which were using methanol.
Gasohol got a very bad name because the
methanol is very hard on parts,
unless the system is designed for it. A 10%
ethanol solution is supposed to
be safe, and gets you ~3 points of octane. I
also think it's a much better
additive than a lot of the other oxygenating
agents they add to gas. There's
one which they use in Colorado in the winter,
and also a lot of places in
California. It stinks and also makes cars knock a
lot easier. I think it's
called MTBE, but don't remember for sure. I know I'm
going to keep using gas
with ethanol, you guys will have to decide for
yourselves.
Todd
Merritt wrote:
>
> as the additional
alcohol deteriorates the fuel injector
> >o-rings , causing them to
suck air past the seal. He sited one or two cases
> >that he has
witnessed.
> >
> A few years ago, a fuel injector failed in my 89
Olds Cutlass, and my
> mechanic attributed it to using ethanol. He said it
eats away the
> insulation, and shorts out the injector. It only took one
failure to shut
> down the engine, but 3 of the 6 injectors were
bad.
>
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Hi,
I have noticed the same thing and
finally figured out what it is.
The only difference is that my ABS light is
not on. When the car
moves forward or reverse for the first time after
starting it. The
ABS does a diagnostic on all 4 wheels which requires
a lot of current.
This is what dips the electrical system for about 1
second. I see
the same thing happen if it's night time and my head
lamps are turned
on before moving. If your ABS light is on, you might
have some other
problem, but the electrical dip is normal initally.
--
Jeff Schwartz
1995 Panama Green Pearl VR4
Borla and K&N
FIPK
Marc Jaffe wrote:
>
> hey guys,
> I have a
bizzare problem, as soon as the car (95 vr4) moves forward
or
> back a few feet after
> starting it, whether the first time or
as a test over and over,the power
> dips down. the head lights dip and the
electrical system
> seems to take a dip also. it comes back and is fine
the rest of the trip...
> Any ideas?
> weak battery?
>
charging system?
> some controller?
> it almost seems that it is
during the diagnostic sequence..
> BTW My anti lock break light is on full
time due to a faulty motor relay. i
> have not had a chance to get to this
yet
> any connection?
> thanx
> Marc
>
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Todd:
>A 10% ethanol solution is
>supposed to
>be safe, and gets you ~3 points of octane. I also
think it's a much
>better
>additive than a lot of the other
oxygenating agents they add to gas.
<snip>
>I think
>it's
>called MTBE
Our owner's manual warns not to use
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based additive in it. Here in
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determined it's just too polluted here, so we are
required to use what is
termed "reformulated" gasoline. It's crap. I
run
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Hey everyone,
I've got a question
about the ACT clutch I bought for my 95 R/T TT. I'm
having my dealer do
the install right now. I just got off the phone with
the dealer who
says the tech that is installing the clutch doesn't think the
plate is
designed well. He says there is 16 rivits put into one side and
only 2
on the other side. I am not a clutch expert so I'm not sure what
that
means. I need some emergency advice from anyone who has an ACT
clutch
or knows about clutches in general. Is this the way it is
suppose to be
designed or maybe the plate is defective. I might give
ACT a call to, but I
want to shoot the question out to you guys too.
Please e-mail me privatly
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a decsion in the next two
hours.
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O.K. Nevermind my last
e-mail. I just talked to the ACT tech support.
Sounds like they missed
some rivits on the disk (not the plate like I
mentioned below) So ACT
is going to overnight a new disk to the dealership.
Kudos to the tech at
Wayzata Mitsu that noticed the defect and kudos to the
nice tech support
people at ACT. So if your in midstream on typing me out
and e-mail, you
don't have to now. :)
Thanks guys!!
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>
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> Sent: Monday,
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>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I've
got a question about the ACT clutch I bought for my 95 R/T TT. I'm
>
having my dealer do the install right now. I just got off the phone
with
> the dealer who says the tech that is installing the clutch doesn't
think
> the plate is designed well. He says there is 16 rivits put
into one side
> and only 2 on the other side. I am not a clutch
expert so I'm not sure
> what that means. I need some emergency
advice from anyone who has an ACT
> clutch or knows about clutches in
general. Is this the way it is suppose
> to be designed or maybe the
plate is defective. I might give ACT a call
> to, but I want to
shoot the question out to you guys too. Please e-mail
> me privatly
with your wisdom, and hurry. I've got to make a decsion in
> the
next two hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt G
> 95 R/T
TT
> and author of Minnesota 3/S at:
>
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At 11:08 AM 5/3/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Are you sure
you're thinking of ethanol eating parts?
Here in Iowa, it's ethanol, and
it's made from corn.
I remember goin' to school in Alabama, where they
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corn.
In fact, up on Sand Mountain, outside of
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Hi all.
I have the dreaded worn
output shaft problem on my Stealth AWD transmission.
My warranty company did
not want to pay for a new transmission and transfer
case. Instead, they
approved my mechanic to buy the parts from a San Diego
shop called MD
Auto. Their address is 6460 85 Convoy Court, San
Diego,
California. Phone number is (619)390-0450. I was told that
they fix
Stealth/VR-4 Getrags all the time.
After hearing all the
problems with locating Getrag parts, is it possible
that we just sent our
money to a shop that doesn't have the correct parts?
I'm quite skeptical that
they would have it when no one else (except Kormex)
would have it.
If
someone living in San Diego is interested in confirming that this shop
fixes
3S Getrags all the time and has the right parts, or if someone knows
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At 02:05 PM 5/3/99 -0700, you wrote:
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all.
>
>I have the dreaded worn output shaft problem on my Stealth
AWD transmission.
>My warranty company did not want to pay for a new
transmission and transfer
>case. Instead, they approved my mechanic
to buy the parts from a San Diego
>shop called MD Auto.
They
will learn. My warranty company wanted to take my car to AAMCO to get
the
Getrag fixed.
"They fix those transmissions all the time, " they
said.
Yeah, right. Ask MD Auto to order the parts first. See how far they
get.
When MD Auto comes back and admits they can't get the parts and don't
fix
OUR transmissions, then the warranty company will have to go to the
dealer,
like mine did.
The neat thing about getting a new tranny is
that it comes with a 12-month
warranty on top of the extended
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Sam,
Not to be too negative, but
I think if there were a shop
anywhere on this continent that fixed 6 speed
Getrags
"ALL THE TIME", we would know about it.
Tell them to get
the parts first.
Bill Davis 95 VR-4
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Subject: Team3S: Problems with my Getrag
> Hi
all.
>
> I have the dreaded worn output shaft problem on my Stealth
AWD
transmission.
> My warranty company did not want to pay for a new
transmission and
transfer
> case. Instead, they approved my
mechanic to buy the parts from a San
Diego
> shop called MD Auto.
Their address is 6460 85 Convoy Court, San Diego,
> California.
Phone number is (619)390-0450. I was told that they fix
>
Stealth/VR-4 Getrags all the time.
>
> After hearing all the
problems with locating Getrag parts, is it possible
> that we just sent
our money to a shop that doesn't have the correct parts?
> I'm quite
skeptical that they would have it when no one else (except
Kormex)
>
would have it.
>
> If someone living in San Diego is interested in
confirming that this shop
> fixes 3S Getrags all the time and has the
right parts, or if someone knows
> anything about this shop, please let me
know.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam.
> 3SI Member
#0269
>
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Sam_Wong@hyperdream.com wrote:
>
> Hi
all.
>
> I have the dreaded worn output shaft problem on my Stealth
AWD transmission.
> My warranty company did not want to pay for a new
transmission and transfer
> case. Instead, they approved my mechanic
to buy the parts from a San Diego
> shop called MD Auto. Their
address is 6460 85 Convoy Court, San Diego,
> California. Phone
number is (619)390-0450. I was told that they fix
> Stealth/VR-4
Getrags all the time.
>
> After hearing all the problems with
locating Getrag parts, is it possible
> that we just sent our money to a
shop that doesn't have the correct parts?
> I'm quite skeptical that they
would have it when no one else (except Kormex)
> would have it.
>
> If someone living in San Diego is interested in confirming that this
shop
> fixes 3S Getrags all the time and has the right parts, or if
someone knows
> anything about this shop, please let me know.
I
just got off the phone with Mike at MD Auto. This is for real.
He
has been rebuilding Getrags for *** 4 *** years. He said a lot of
Mitsu
& Dodge dealers and aftermarket warranty companies know about him
and
use him.
Prices:
$2695 for rebuilt tranny & rebuilt
transfer case, I didn't ask for
seperate prices
$500 core
charge
~$200 round trip shipping to Atlantic coast
He uses new
parts. Although he wouldn't devulge his sources, he did say
they use
new bearings (I forgot the name but they're from France). They
use new
synchro's although they only replace the bad ones, they use
Mitsu seals, they
also do the 18 or 25 spline shafts. He said that you
cannot replace a
small 18 spline shaft with the larger 25 spline shaft
since the hole in the
case is a different size. I forgot to ask if the
shafts they use are of
better quality than the original. I also didn't
ask if they just sell
parts.
Shipping takes two boxes because of weight. He said tranny
alone is
about 120 lbs. They use UPS. They put the tranny in a
plastic bag, put
it in a box, then fill the box with foam. You are
supposed to send back
the cores in the same boxes.
He is faxing me
some literature as I write this. Send me your questions
and I'll phone
him again soon.
Ken,
P.S. Sam, it looks like your warranty
company is instructing your
mechanic to buy the rebuilt parts and he will
just do the removal &
re-installation.
--
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a man travel down before he admits he is lost!
Ken Middaugh
General
Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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> Although it will make hardly any difference, consider
painting both the
> rotor and caliper flat black. As we all know, black
radiates more heat then
> does yellow or red or silver.
Check out
the rotors and you'll see that there is only a little surface you can
paint
unless you considered painting the rotors surface (gulp). Also the area
of
the calipers is too small to transfer
heat.
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> > 1. Is this something that can be tackled
by someone with reasonable
> > mechanical ability?
You must be
familiar with the timing on our cars to avoid any mistake and big
problems
due to an error.
> > 3. I was told by a tech at Nexus that if
the belt was not
> > changed by 72,000 miles, there is a good chance it
would have broken by now.
60k is what Mitsu says it's the min. livetime
of the belt. If it breaks at 61k
you're too late :(
> My car has a
hair over 80k miles on it. The timing belt never broke, and i
> didn't see
any signs of it doing so.
No, you'll probably see only the signs after it
broke. It's like playing russian
roulette :) The longer you drive the more
the chance that it brakes.
> > 4. Is the Borla system an easy
bolt on, and is it worth changing?
Easy bolt on yes, but not worth
changing.
> > I have seen some opinions that it really does not
help unless you are
> > upgrading turbo's and fuel system. I have to
admit I would do it anyway
> > just for the sound.
True facts on
my webpage (dyno sessions). The exhaust does only help in the
higher rpm if
any and you'll loose some power in the lower band. It sounds good
around 4000
and more but is damn annyoing when crusing around between 2000 and
3000. The
problems are the mufflers that are way too small. I started to hate
it
!
> Wouldn't know about that. But most people seem to be happy
with it. It's a
> step in the right direction on the upgrade path ;)Every
little bit adds up
No ! The exhaust is the wrong path. You will do a lot
mods and spending $$$
before doing the exhaust.
This is fact ! Even more
without a boost controller changing the exhaust will
give you more loss in
the low end.
The correct path is : filter, boost controller, regapping plugs,
fuel pump,
injectors, A/F controller, turbos, exhaust, intercooler, and more.
Gutting the
pre-cats does help more than any
exhaust.
-----------------------
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maybe this guy could build us a better
tranny that fit stock specs, but that
wouldn't break as much --- special
metals.... titanium/carbon fiber... etc
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> Sam_Wong@hyperdream.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi
all.
> >
> > I have the dreaded worn output shaft problem on
my Stealth AWD
transmission.
> > My warranty company did not want to
pay for a new transmission and
transfer
> > case. Instead,
they approved my mechanic to buy the parts from a San
Diego
> > shop
called MD Auto. Their address is 6460 85 Convoy Court, San Diego,
>
> California. Phone number is (619)390-0450. I was told that they
fix
> > Stealth/VR-4 Getrags all the time.
> >
> >
After hearing all the problems with locating Getrag parts, is
it
possible
> > that we just sent our money to a shop that doesn't
have the correct
parts?
> > I'm quite skeptical that they would have
it when no one else (except
Kormex)
> > would have it.
>
>
> > If someone living in San Diego is interested in confirming
that this
shop
> > fixes 3S Getrags all the time and has the right
parts, or if someone
knows
> > anything about this shop, please let
me know.
>
> I just got off the phone with Mike at MD Auto.
This is for real. He
> has been rebuilding Getrags for *** 4 ***
years. He said a lot of Mitsu
> & Dodge dealers and aftermarket
warranty companies know about him and
> use him.
>
>
Prices:
> $2695 for rebuilt tranny & rebuilt transfer case, I didn't
ask for
> seperate prices
> $500 core charge
>
~$200 round trip shipping to Atlantic coast
>
> He uses new
parts. Although he wouldn't devulge his sources, he did say
> they
use new bearings (I forgot the name but they're from France). They
>
use new synchro's although they only replace the bad ones, they use
>
Mitsu seals, they also do the 18 or 25 spline shafts. He said that
you
> cannot replace a small 18 spline shaft with the larger 25 spline
shaft
> since the hole in the case is a different size. I forgot to
ask if the
> shafts they use are of better quality than the
original. I also didn't
> ask if they just sell
parts.
>
> Shipping takes two boxes because of weight. He said
tranny alone is
> about 120 lbs. They use UPS. They put the
tranny in a plastic bag, put
> it in a box, then fill the box with
foam. You are supposed to send back
> the cores in the same
boxes.
>
> He is faxing me some literature as I write this.
Send me your questions
> and I'll phone him again soon.
>
>
Ken,
>
> P.S. Sam, it looks like your warranty company is
instructing your
> mechanic to buy the rebuilt parts and he will just do
the removal &
> re-installation.
>
> --
> How many
roads must a man travel down before he admits he is lost!
>
> Ken
Middaugh
> General Atomics
> San Diego
> (619)
455-4510
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is
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> Check out the rotors and you'll see
that there is only a little
> surface you can
> paint unless you
considered painting the rotors surface (gulp).
> Also the area of
>
the calipers is too small to transfer heat.
just brainstorming ;)
i
thought the rotor discs are sort of "hollow" from the inside to help
air
carry heat away?
couldn't the inside surfaces of the rotor be painted?
(in the middle of the
actual disc, between the braking surfaces. At least
that's what i thought it
looked like last time i had my wheel off. I could be
wrong. please let me
know if i am.
diagraphical (is that a word?)
aid:
rotor as seen from straight ahead, simplified:
||
||
||
\/
__ __
||
||
|| ||
||__||
||--||
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Well, I can't give you a definitive answer on the
formulation of BP
fuel but I can offer my seat of the pants
experience.
In the KY & Ohio area we have limited quality fuel
choices. In KY we
have what's fondly called reformulated fuel for pollution
reasons. BP
is the major player here. Over the past four cars I drive and
the
common ones we own I find Shell to be the poorest excuse for
gas
available from the big manufacturers. Poor mileage,
mediocre
performance, and plug build up.
BP may be OK for the family
truckster, but both my 93SL and 96 VR4
aren't happy with it. Again poor
mileage and marginal performance
consistency. Haven't pulled the plugs in the
VR4 yet.
The Sunoco runs consistently better, I see very little soot
blowing
out when I hit the power which I did see with a tank of BP. It
costs
more but I don't see much other alternative. Only other players
are
Marathon and Citco.
Ron
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Mikael Åkesson wrote:
> >1994
Mitsu VR4 with K&N, bleeder valve, gutted maincat, VPC/GCC, 720cc
injectors (I had them laying around :)
> >12.386 @ 108.19mph...best mph
109.50. Full interior except spare and jack.
Geez.
>
> It would be interesting to know how much the 720 injectors
did. Do you have any idea about what dutycycle they where on during WOT? I guess
that they where far away from maxing out.
Nope no idea.
> I
would also like to know more about the GCC, is it an ignition controller or is
it just an aoption to the VPC?
It is fuel adjustment in several rpm
bands, like AFC. Hooks up to VPC with one connector.
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I had spoken to MD Auto in my quest to find parts.
He had everything, but the synchros and WOULD NOT SELL THEM, if he had
them. For those of us who need just the synchros, I guess the SEARCH GOES
ON - any more leads out there.
--
On Mon, 3 May 1999
19:31:12 CEnder (Chris Chiasson) wrote:
>maybe this guy
could build us a better tranny that fit stock specs, but that
>wouldn't
break as much --- special metals.... titanium/carbon fiber...
etc
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ken
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>To:
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>Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 5:57 PM
>Subject:
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>
>
>> Sam_Wong@hyperdream.com
wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>>
> I have the dreaded worn output shaft problem on my Stealth
AWD
>transmission.
>> > My warranty company did not want to
pay for a new transmission and
>transfer
>> > case.
Instead, they approved my mechanic to buy the parts from a
San
>Diego
>> > shop called MD Auto. Their address is
6460 85 Convoy Court, San Diego,
>> > California. Phone number
is (619)390-0450. I was told that they fix
>> > Stealth/VR-4
Getrags all the time.
>> >
>> > After hearing all the
problems with locating Getrag parts, is it
>possible
>> > that
we just sent our money to a shop that doesn't have the
correct
>parts?
>> > I'm quite skeptical that they would have
it when no one else (except
>Kormex)
>> > would have
it.
>> >
>> > If someone living in San Diego is
interested in confirming that this
>shop
>> > fixes 3S Getrags
all the time and has the right parts, or if someone
>knows
>>
> anything about this shop, please let me know.
>>
>> I
just got off the phone with Mike at MD Auto. This is for real.
He
>> has been rebuilding Getrags for *** 4 *** years. He said a
lot of Mitsu
>> & Dodge dealers and aftermarket warranty companies
know about him and
>> use him.
>>
>>
Prices:
>> $2695 for rebuilt tranny & rebuilt transfer case, I
didn't ask for
>> seperate prices
>> $500 core
charge
>> ~$200 round trip shipping to Atlantic
coast
>>
>> He uses new parts. Although he wouldn't
devulge his sources, he did say
>> they use new bearings (I forgot the
name but they're from France). They
>> use new synchro's although
they only replace the bad ones, they use
>> Mitsu seals, they also do
the 18 or 25 spline shafts. He said that you
>> cannot replace a
small 18 spline shaft with the larger 25 spline shaft
>> since the hole
in the case is a different size. I forgot to ask if the
>> shafts
they use are of better quality than the original. I also
didn't
>> ask if they just sell parts.
>>
>> Shipping
takes two boxes because of weight. He said tranny alone is
>>
about 120 lbs. They use UPS. They put the tranny in a plastic bag,
put
>> it in a box, then fill the box with foam. You are supposed
to send back
>> the cores in the same boxes.
>>
>> He
is faxing me some literature as I write this. Send me your
questions
>> and I'll phone him again soon.
>>
>>
Ken,
>>
>> P.S. Sam, it looks like your warranty company
is instructing your
>> mechanic to buy the rebuilt parts and he will
just do the removal &
>> re-installation.
>>
>>
--
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lost!
>>
>> Ken Middaugh
>> General
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>> San Diego
>> (619) 455-4510
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Ken Middaugh
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>I just got off the phone with
Mike at MD Auto. This is for real. He
>has been rebuilding
Getrags for *** 4 *** years. He said a lot of Mitsu
>& Dodge
dealers and aftermarket warranty companies know about him and
>use
him.
Hi Ken.
Wow. They've been doing it for 4 years, yet no
one from our group has known
about them? I sure hope this is for
real.
>since the hole in the case is a different size. I
forgot to ask if the
>shafts they use are of better quality than the
original. I also didn't
>ask if they just sell parts.
Well, I
am interested in finding out whether or not those shafts are factory
parts or
after-market. If they're after-market, I too would like to know if
they are better quality than the factory. Of course, the shop would
claim
that they are. But how can we really find out? I really
hate to be a guinea
pig.
>He is faxing me some literature as I
write this. Send me your questions
>and I'll phone him again
soon.
I think it would help a lot of us if we could get a scan of the
literature
onto the 3si website.
>P.S. Sam, it looks like
your warranty company is instructing your
>mechanic to buy the rebuilt
parts and he will just do the removal
&
>re-installation.
Actually, my mechanic told me that he only
got approval to purchase the
shaft and sleeve, not for the entire
transmission/transfer case. At this
time, he hasn't opened up the
transmission yet so we do not know if we'll
need new synchros as well.
He has already sent money to MD Auto for the
parts.
Thanks for
looking into this Ken. Let us know what else you
find.
Sincerely,
Sam.
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Guys, this was fowarded to me. I have very little computer
knowledge so I
hope this is worthwhile information and 4 real.
Arty 91
VR-4
PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR. IT IS REAL
AND
>NOT A JOKE:
>
>If you receive an email titled "It
Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus' DO NOT
>OPEN IT. It will erase
everything on your hard drive. This
>information was announced yesterday
morning from IBM; AOL states that
>this is a very dangerous virus, much
worse than "Melissa", and that
>there is NO remedy for it at
this time.
>
>Some very sick individual has succeeded in using the
re-format
>function from Norton Utilities causing it to completely erase
all
>documents on the hard drive. It has been designed to work
with
>Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. It
destroys
>MacIntosh and IBM compatible computers.
>
>This is a
new, very malicious virus and not many people know about
>it. Pass this
warning along to EVERYONE in your address book and
>please share it with
all your online friends ASAP so that this threat
>may be
stopped.
>
>Please practice cautionary measures and tell anyone that
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>Forward this warning to
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Arty,
This a hoax that has resurfaced. I don't
think this kind of thing is
allowed on the list even if it were real.
Here is a website to check
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Thanks for the update, Lynn; you are correct on both
counts-- it IS
an old hoax, and
IT IS NOT ALLOWED (nor are
corrections, either). From the
rules:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
05.
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|Arty,
|
|This a hoax that has
resurfaced. I don't think this kind of thing
is
|allowed on the list even
if it were real. Here is a website to
check
|out these kinds of
things
on:
|
|http://snopes.simplenet.com/spoons/spoons.htm#spoons
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It's bunk, it has been another net rumor floating
around. Probably by someone trying to
Anti-Spam a religious
organization. I have run across this danged thing 3
times
already. Just look at the wording, it was written in High School
level english. It
came from IBM? IBM is announcing virus
detection now? It's much more dangerous than
Melissa, but you don't
hear about it on the 6 O'clock news??? Yeah, It's pretty safe to
say this is
bunk. Not to mention that you would have to execute an application in
order
to run the virus, not just open the email. Opening an email is a
passive operation, you
have to actively open something contained in the
email. Although some things could be
done with Java, or Active X.
I will say of 99% ashurity this is BS. There is no such
thing as a
virus that cannot be removed... NO SUCH THING.. there is no software
problem
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Aso8@aol.com wrote:
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>Ken
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>>I just got off the phone with Mike at MD Auto.
This is for real. He
>>has been rebuilding Getrags for *** 4 ***
years. He said a lot of Mitsu
>>& Dodge dealers and
aftermarket warranty companies know about him and use
him.
>
I'm
a little confused --- does he do an exchange or does he rebuild
your
trans.
Could get time consuming for East coast folk !! If your
syncros are shot
along
with other problems then he just fixes the half of
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Hi
I will do some some drag racing during the
summer and I wonder what's the difference between bracket racing and
"normal" racing?
/Mikael http://www.3000gt.nu
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I was just wondering if there are any opinions/info on
which synthetic oil
is better.
Castrol Syntec or Mobil 1
I
switched to Castrol Syntec a while back..........and I have noticed my oil
pressure stays
lower, especially at idle...............the needle
hangs only a mark or two
above the L!!!
When driving the needle stays at
the first BIG mark and never goes above
it......even when boost is
applied.
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Regular drag racing - The fastest wins
Bracket
Racing - You dial-in by telling the officials what you think your
car will
run. (by writing it on the side window of the car) Then you are
handicapped if you are faster than the person you are racing or given a
head start if you are slower. Then the person who gets to the finish
line
first without going under his or her dial in-time wins. When you
go under
your time it's called breaking out. This allows more
competitive racing
between a wide variety of cars. Theoretically if I
was a good enuff driver
I could beat a door slammer in a 72 Ford
Pinto.
Hope it helps,
Kevin Schappell
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Answers
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Hi
I will do some some drag racing during the summer and I
wonder what's the
difference between bracket racing and "normal"
racing?
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MitsuVR41...
Questions: What weight Castrol are you
using? Ambient temperature?
Comments...when we did a survey some months
ago, of those using synthetic
(92% of those who responded), the majority
(~70%) are using Mobil 1. I've
been using Castrol 5-50w for over two years
and have been satisfied with it.
However, something sounds odd about your oil
pressure indications (which is
why I asked about the weight). When I'm at
idle, the gauge reads just below
the lower of the two large lines. When I'm
running anything above 2K rpm,
it's nearly at the higher of the two large
marks and stays there, regardless
of throttle position.
I wish we had
real gauges (with psi markings), for all I know, the oil
pressure gauge is as
unreliable as the boost gauge. :-(
Looking
forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/blown turbo seal
mod)
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I was just wondering if there are any opinions/info on
which synthetic oil
is better.
Castrol Syntec or Mobil 1
I
switched to Castrol Syntec a while back..........and I have noticed my
oil
pressure stays
lower, especially at idle...............the
needle hangs only a mark or two
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Bracket racing is based mostly on consistency since you
are placed in a class with people running similar times.
It's not a
competition for the fastest time, the fastest time with people who run the same
times? Am in confusing this too much?
Mikael Åkesson
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>
> I will do some some drag racing during the
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A Drag race = the fastest time
wins.
A Bracket race = the one closest to the time he says he will run
wins.
Example 2 cars, car 1 says he will run 12.5 he runs
12.4
car 2 says he will run 12.5 he runs 12.00
Car 1 wins. He is closer to his
selected time.
Arty 91 VR-4
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MitsuVR41,
I have been using Syntec 5W-50 since I
bought the car and have noticed
exactly what you are talking about.
However, get out on the interstate
in the summer with the air on and you will
see the pressure keep rising
for about the first 15 miles or so and it will
get (on my gauge) within
1-2 lines of the top mark. The first winter I spent
in Raleigh, '96, was
exceptionally cold and I got so worried because my oil
pressure would
barely get above the low normal that I switched to Castrol
20-50, which
I use in everything else and I also noted a lot more valve
noise.
I am about to switch to Mobil 1 because the concensus seems to be
that
the valve noise is less with it. Also, about a month ago there was
a
URL given to very extensive oil filter study and it gave the Mobil 1
oil
filter very good marks. So, I figured I'd switch to the oil and
the
filter.
Regards,
Lynn
MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
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> I was just wondering if there are any opinions/info on which synthetic
oil
> is better.
> Castrol Syntec or Mobil 1
> I
switched to Castrol Syntec a while back..........and I have noticed my
oil
> pressure stays
> lower, especially at idle...............the
needle hangs only a mark or two
> above the L!!!
> When driving the
needle stays at the first BIG mark and never goes above
> it......even
when boost is
applied.
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> normal?????????? Thanks guys
> For
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I'm going to race for the first time this Friday.
From what I've been
reading here, I should be able to get a higher octane
fuel at the track? If
so, should I be able to increase my boost while
running a higher octane gas?
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> However, something sounds odd about your oil
pressure
> indications (which is
> why I asked about the weight).
When I'm at idle, the gauge
> reads just below
> the lower of the
two large lines. When I'm running anything
> above 2K rpm,
> it's
nearly at the higher of the two large marks and stays
> there,
regardless
> of throttle position.
I'm also using Castrol
Synthetic, 10W30 and notice my gauge being near the
bottom at idle, and just
above the bottom of the two large marks
when
driving.
Michael
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Michael...
All depends on the track. There's two
1/4 strips here in the Portland
(Oregon) area, neither one carries race
gas.
However, there's two places in town that do carry race gas. FYI,
the
unleaded (104 octane) is $4.75/gallon, the leaded (110 octane)
is
$525/gallon. If you run your tank almost dry and put five gallons
(unleaded
only if you haven't removed all three cats), you should be able to
run the
boost up to 20 psi w/o risking damage to your engine. However, if you
still
have stock turbos, you won't hold that boost at higher
revs.
GOOD LUCK, let us know how the runs go!!!
BTW...I'd be
curious to know what others are paying for race gas, along with
octane and
your location.
Looking forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White
VR4 (w/blown turbo seal mod)
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I'm going to race for the first time this Friday. From
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reading here, I should be able to get a higher octane fuel at
the track? If
so, should I be able to increase my boost while running a
higher octane gas?
Michael
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Some weird things my VR-4 does I wonder if anyone elses
does
Prime gas mileage speed seems to be aroun 92 mph
I got 32 mpg
going from St. George, to Salt Lake city, at 92 mph cruise control
Around
the city if I am on the gas I can burn a 1/4 of a tank just from going to to
work
and back, and lunch prboably around 24 miles
Is this
normal
When going very fast. Full throttle continuously. I
can burn a 1/8 tank in 5 or 6
miles So at 160 mph I eat up fuel at 2
mpg? That is nuts anyone else with this problem
or si the Fuel gauge
kind of inacurate
Only mod I have is a bleeder valve, and cut up air box
275 mm tires rear. 38psi Front
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>
>BTW...I'd be curious to know what others are
paying for race gas, along with
>octane and your location.
At
Heartland Park, Topeka, we have three choices. The cheapest is 102
octane at
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All sounds normal to me.
Stop and go with a 2 ton
car requires plenty of power, which in turn
uses plenty of gas.
Having
the momentum already there and having minimal change in engine
speed at
5th/6th gear at 92mph should yield very good MPG.
As for 160, that's just
a different ball game. The upper end of the
engines power...although
2mpg seems to be a lot of gas, it doesn't
surprise
me.
Gavin
>>> Andrew Brilliant
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Some weird things
my VR-4 does I wonder if anyone elses does
Prime gas mileage speed seems
to be aroun 92 mph
I got 32 mpg going from St. George, to Salt Lake city,
at 92 mph cruise
control
Around the city if I am on the gas I can burn
a 1/4 of a tank just from
going to to work
and back, and lunch prboably
around 24 miles
Is this normal
When going very fast. Full
throttle continuously. I can burn a 1/8 tank in
5 or 6
miles
So at 160 mph I eat up fuel at 2 mpg? That is nuts anyone else
with
this problem
or si the Fuel gauge kind of inacurate
Only mod I have is
a bleeder valve, and cut up air box 275 mm tires rear.
38psi Front
and 32
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Andrew...
I think either your speedo is wildly
inaccurate, or your calculations. I
keep pretty careful track of my mileage.
Before I changed my turbos and
injectors I consistently got between 12 and 14
mpg in the city (with a fair
amount of WOT). On the highway, with speeds of
up to 140+ mph, I get around
17 or 18 mpg. On a trip to the Bay area this
January, I actually used the
cruise control at 85 mph in sixth gear and
checked my mileage after a half
tank of gas. It was 22 mpg, an all time high.
I doubt that it's possible to
get 32 mpg out of a VR4, under any speed, on
flat terrain.
Check for loose mechanical connections, and/or check your
math.
BTW...could you give me the complete size of the tires (275/xx-18
or
275/xx-17) on your VR4? What brand? Any clearance problems?
Looking
forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/blown turbo seal
mod)
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Some weird things my VR-4 does I wonder if anyone elses
does
Prime gas mileage speed seems to be aroun 92 mph
I got 32 mpg
going from St. George, to Salt Lake city, at 92 mph
cruise
control
Around the city if I am on the gas I can burn a 1/4 of
a tank just from
going to to work
and back, and lunch prboably around 24
miles
Is this normal
When going very fast. Full throttle
continuously. I can burn a 1/8 tank in
5 or 6
miles So at 160
mph I eat up fuel at 2 mpg? That is nuts anyone else with
this
problem
or si the Fuel gauge kind of inacurate
Only mod I have is a
bleeder valve, and cut up air box 275 mm tires rear.
38psi Front
and 32
Rear
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>When going very fast. Full throttle
continuously. I can burn a 1/8 tank
in 5 or 6
>miles So at
160 mph I eat up fuel at 2 mpg? That is nuts anyone else
with this
problem
>or si the Fuel gauge kind of inacurate
On an open
track, I burn a quarter tank in a 20 minute session.
It goes down so fast, I
almost ran out of gas once.
I guess we run about a 75-80 mph average,
because a 2.25 mile lap takes
about 1:50 or so.
Let's see, at 80 mph
that's 0.75 min./mile for 20 min., or about 27 miles.
A quarter tank is --
what? 4 gallons?
So that's about 6.75 mpg.
Glad I just use 92 octane and
not racing gas.
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On May 04, Chris Winkley said:
>
Andrew...
>
> I think either your speedo is wildly inaccurate, or
your calculations. I
Hm...
If he spent 1/8 tank to traverse 6 miles doing 160mph, that's
2.475
gallons to drive for
0.0375hr, or 66gph (isn't this the spec. for
the
stock fuel pump?)
>
I doubt that it's possible to get 32 mpg out of a VR4, under any speed,
on
> flat terrain.
I think it was Bob Fontana who stated that he
noticed much better mileage
after installing the VPC (upper 20s, but I don't
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As for the calculations I can tell you exactly what
happend..
Gas was about 94cents/gallon back then but listen to what
happend
$10 in the tank. So roughly 10 gallons, car had the gas
light on
Traveled 312 Miles to donw town SLC (the olive garden) from St.
George BLVD, a St.
George in rougghly 3.75 hours. After the $10
fillup it rad a little under 3/4 tank
full Maybe the pump was messed, because
I _never_ duplicated this. My G/F was driving,
and she never did any
WOT 3rd gear passes like I always do. Has anyone ever heard of a
gas
pump being inacurate before?
10 galllons 315 miles, maybe the speedo is
WAY off who knows
Chris Winkley wrote:
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Andrew...
>
> I think either your speedo is wildly inaccurate, or
your calculations. I
> keep pretty careful track of my mileage. Before I
changed my turbos and
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Interestingly, here in Europe we do have Castrol Synthetic
(RS, TT, TXT) and the
new Syntec (in Switz. since this year) I run 5W40 in
Winter and 10W60 in Summer
and have consistent readings. Idle is just a
little under the normal mark and on
very high speeds the needle stays below
the upper larger mark. The only
"problem" (more a Gremlin) is that
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accellerate hard or on high speeds up a hill.
Lifting the throttle cures
this. We replaced the oil level switch (I did not
found in the US manual !)
but didn't help yet.
> I'm also using Castrol Synthetic, 10W30 and
notice my gauge being near the
> bottom at idle, and just above the bottom
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>
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> i thought the rotor discs are sort of
"hollow" from the inside to help air
> carry heat
away?
Yes, correct. Some rotors have different internal grooving design
to draw air or
out.
> couldn't the inside surfaces of the rotor be
painted? (in the middle of the
> actual disc, between the braking
surfaces. At least that's what i thought it
> looked like last time i had
my wheel off. I could be wrong. please let me
> know if i am.
You
can but I see no adantage in doing this.
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> > couldn't the inside surfaces of the rotor be
painted? (in the
>
> You can but I see no adantage in doing
this.
Well basically i was saying although negligeable, black radiates
more heat
then any other color...
and hey, a good high heat paint should
prevent rust too :)
how hot can brakes get during conditions it would
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> Well basically i was saying although negligeable,
black radiates more
> heat then any other color... and hey, a good high
heat paint
> should prevent rust too :)
Doesn't black absorb the
most heat? If you set a black piece of plastic in
the sun next to a
white piece, doesn't the black piece become hotter than
the white
piece?
I'd suspect that any paint on the rotor or caliper would help hold
the heat
in, since paint would transfer heat more slowly than
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Team;
The low pressure "may" be
eleviated with a flush to clean out the ole system. My guess is
it needs the
gunk and cooked oil cleaned out from high temps ......then go with Mobil
1
10-30. Back in my muscle car youth (another ole poop- -who here
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Castrol, but I am a firm advocate of Mobil 1 now and
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Michael Dorsey wrote:
> race for
the first time I should get higher octane fuel at track? If
>
should I increase boost while higher octane?
> Michael K&N
Intake/Borla Exhaust/Blitz DSBC
yes, run tank near empty when arriving at
track; then put in maybe 4 gallons of highest
unleaded gas the track sells
(100-104). Then turn the boost up as HIGH as you can
without hitting
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I noticed some valve noise on my '91 VR4 about 3 or 4
weeks ago. I've decided
to try a flush treatment next oil
change.
Full set of valve lifters was replaced about 2 years ago by
previous owner.
My first oil change since buying the car was with Mobil 1
syn. last Oct.
Previous owner used non-syn.
2nd oil change was about
2 months ago - Mobil 1 syn.
1)Is there any kind of treatment I can do to
the car now before next oil
change?
2)Any advantage to doing the
flush treatment/oil change now, as opposed to
waiting untill the next oil
change (about 4-5 mo. away)?
3)If I let the valves continue to clatter,
am I doing any kind of permanent
damage I might avoid by doing the flush
now?
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Whatever you've done to your car, pass it on. I've never
gotten over 25-27 mpg on the highway - of course that's doing almost a constant
80 or better with cruise and lots of flat spaces. In city, maybe 15 mpg,
if I'm lucky.
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happend..
>
>Gas was about 94cents/gallon back then but listen to
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>
>$10 in the tank. So roughly 10 gallons, car
had the gas light on
>
>Traveled 312 Miles to donw town SLC (the
olive garden) from St. George BLVD, a St.
>George in rougghly 3.75
hours. After the $10 fillup it rad a little under 3/4 tank
>full
Maybe the pump was messed, because I _never_ duplicated this. My G/F was
driving,
>and she never did any WOT 3rd gear passes like I always
do. Has anyone ever heard of a
>gas pump being inacurate
before?
>
>10 galllons 315 miles, maybe the speedo is WAY off who
knows
>
>Chris Winkley wrote:
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>>
Andrew...
>>
>> I think either your speedo is wildly
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>> keep pretty careful track of my
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I just changed over to Castrol Synthetic 5-50 (using a
K&N filter) and my oil pressure increased. most of the time at idle it
reads like 1/4 on the gauge (halfway between lowest and mid lines) and during
cruising, it normally reads 1-2 lines above the middle. Before, when I was
using the SynBlend with a Fram, my pressure at idle would sometimes drop to the
2nd from the bottom (got a little nervous at that point) and when cruising it
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>> However,
something sounds odd about your oil pressure
>> indications (which
is
>> why I asked about the weight). When I'm at idle, the
gauge
>> reads just below
>> the lower of the two large lines.
When I'm running anything
>> above 2K rpm,
>> it's nearly at
the higher of the two large marks and stays
>> there,
regardless
>> of throttle position.
>
>I'm also using
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>bottom at
idle, and just above the bottom of the two large marks
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I've gotten 28mpg on the flats between
Bakersfield, CA and Las Vegas, NV...
-Bill/'95 VR-4 Spyder
>
> I doubt that it's possible to get 32 mpg out of a VR4, under any
speed,
on
> > flat terrain.
>
> I think it was Bob
Fontana who stated that he noticed much better mileage
> after installing
the VPC (upper 20s, but I don't think it was 32mgp tho.)
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Jim,
That's why they charge a 'core charge.'
He'll ship you one as soon as he gets the payment (VISA/Cash/Purchase
Order). You get the tranny, put it in, take the old used piece of #$@!
out, and return it to him. He should then refund your core charge.
If you decide you want to keep it as a paperweight or whatever, he keeps the
core charge. Don't know where he gets his synchros - closely guarded
secret I imagine, cause if he tells, the MitsuStapo will be there and cut him
off at the knees. We've seen that happen whenever somebody has publicly
announced a pipeline. GUESS WHO'S WATCHING??????
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May 1999 09:21:41 Jim Berry
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>
>>
>>Ken
Middaugh
>>
>>>I just got off the phone with Mike at MD
Auto. This is for real. He
>>>has been rebuilding
Getrags for *** 4 *** years. He said a lot of Mitsu
>>>&
Dodge dealers and aftermarket warranty companies know about him and
use
>him.
>>
>
>I'm a little confused --- does he do
an exchange or does he rebuild your
>trans.
>Could get time
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shot
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> 1)Is there any kind of treatment I can do
to the car now before next oil
> change?
>
> 2)Any advantage
to doing the flush treatment/oil change now, as opposed to
> waiting
untill the next oil change (about 4-5 mo. away)?
>
> 3)If I let the
valves continue to clatter, am I doing any kind of permanent
> damage I
might avoid by doing the flush now?
>
Hey Paul;
Oil and
filters are cheap investments, even when synthetic. Changing frequently is
one
of the best things you can do, and a flush will take the speculation out
of the equation
if you do it now rather than
wait.
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Black both absorbs _and_ radiates heat
better than all lighter colors.
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> Doesn't
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>If you run your tank almost dry and
put five gallons (unleaded
>only if you haven't removed all three
cats),
Won't this ruin the O2 sensors?
>BTW...I'd be curious to
know what others are paying for race gas, along
with
>octane and your
location.
>Looking forward...Chris
>
I get 100 octane
unleaded at Texaco for $3.59 in Plymouth, MN. They also
sell 110 leaded and I
am pretty sure that sells for $3.59 as well. 93
octane pump gas runs
about $1.20.
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BASTARDS...
We're paying $1.82
for premium in Vegas, if you shop around, otherwise
$1.91...ARGH!
(I
know, I know, you live in a friggin' desert, what do you
expect?)
-Bill
> I get 100 octane unleaded at Texaco for $3.59
in Plymouth, MN. They also
> sell 110 leaded and I am pretty sure that
sells for $3.59 as well. 93
> octane pump gas runs about
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>I wish we had real gauges (with psi
markings), for all I know, the oil
>pressure gauge is as unreliable as the
boost gauge. :-(
>
>Looking
forward...Chris
>
I swapped out my center gauges for some
Autometer gauges. I replaced both
the oil and water temp gauges with
mechanical gauges. I also installed an
electrical fuel pressure gauge
in the place vacated by the boost gauge.
I'm running Mobil-1 10W30 with
ambient temperature ranging from 40-70.
Initially upon cold startup I see
80psi. This slowly drops as the engine
warms up . After running
the car for a while I will get around 10-15 psi at
idle. While driving,
the oil pressure varies between 30-65 psi depending on
RPM. My stock
gauge barely moved at all. It was always pegged just above
center,
except at idle when it would drop two notches. I suspect that it is
purposely
tuned this way as not to worry the average driver.
I plan on running some
Gunk motor flush thru the engine soon. It will be
interesting to see if
this makes a difference on the readings. I also plan
on running Mobil-1
15W50 this summer. I suspect I will get slightly higher
readings with
this viscosity. My car is a '95 R/T TT with just over 30k
miles.
It has had a pretty easy life so far.
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I am experiencing similar problems.
When I drive from
Chattanooga, Tn to Nashville, Tn and to Birmingham, AL I
general drive
from 75-to-85 mph average and sometimes the first quarter tank
lasts
for 150 miles and sometimes it lasts only 70 to 80 miles. usually the
last 3 quarter tank increments go down each step
too. 1st 150 miles
2cnd
80miles 3rd 60miles and then about 45 miles.
I have also
noticed my car runs best at 90 to 100 miles per hour. It runs
smoothest,
reacts and turns the best. And seems to get better gas mileage??
maybee it just seems that way. I think the guage is
inacurate......my car
has been close to empty before and the light would go
on and go off
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> I switched to Castrol
Syntec a while back..........and I have noticed my oil pressure stays lower,
especially at idle...............the needle hangs only a mark or two above the
L!!!
> When driving the needle stays at the first BIG mark and never goes
above it......even when boost is
applied.
Is this
> normal?????????? Thanks guys
I used Syntec before I
went to Mobil 1. The ONLY reason I ever went with
Syntec was because it was
on sale. I did notice the oil pressure with
the Syntec was lower than with
the Mobil 1, but NOT as low as you're
reporting. I haven't really had any
problems with either, but since the
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(probably indicating it's probably a
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I don't know how good the oil pressure guage really is, or
how
accurately it scales with changes in oil pressure. With Mobil 1, and
the
car warmed up, my guage reads slightly below the first large mark
at
idle and will run up between the upper 1/3rd of the guage
between
3k-4kRPM.
Perhaps your sending unit or oil pump are
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I also recently have had a valve start ticking....and it
has gotten a little
louder than it was......but not loud enough to be a
rod. To do the oil
flush....is it safe to trust a local 10 min oil
change ......or should I dig
into the pockets and (heaven forbid) trust
Mitsubishi to do it???? I'm not
into taking my car into Mitsubishi
unless I HAVE to. Seems to me my car is
always delivered with
more problems than it had before I took it in when I
take it to
Mitsubishi....In fact.......Mitsubishi told me my car was
completely fixed
and I threw a rod the next day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is teh EXACT SAME BHAVIOR
can't be
coincidence
I do think though that as far as the 90 mph handling
goes. I used to have an Eclipse,
this is a GT car, it is designed to
handle smooth at 90 mph I think it's a Pain in the
city... stiff clutch,
rough ride.. But at 100 mph smooth as ice
MitsuVR41@aol.com
wrote:
> I am experiencing similar problems.
> When I drive from
Chattanooga, Tn to Nashville, Tn and to Birmingham, AL I
> general
drive from 75-to-85 mph average and sometimes the first quarter
tank
> lasts for 150 miles and sometimes it lasts only 70 to 80
miles. usually the
> last 3 quarter tank increments go down each
step too. 1st 150 miles
> 2cnd 80miles
3rd 60miles and then about 45 miles.
> I have also
noticed my car runs best at 90 to 100 miles per hour. It runs
> smoothest,
reacts and turns the best. And seems to get better gas mileage??
>
maybee it just seems that way. I think the guage is
inacurate......my car
> has been close to empty before and the light would
go on and go off
> constantly.
> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our
web page is http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Andrew
Brilliant
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Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
>
> I noticed some
valve noise on my '91 VR4 about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I've decided
> to try a
flush treatment next oil change.
What kind of noise?? Is it a slight
clicking or does it sound like
someone is lightly tapping the side of the top
end with a hammer? Does
the noise ever go away?? Are you sure the noise is
coming from the valve
area and not the underside of the engine??
I'm
curious because I suspect that one of my lifters is failing (back
cylinder
bank, of course!!). I get the noise that sounds as if someone
is tapping the
top end lightly with a hammer, but it's eratic...often
not present at
all. Following the procedures in the manual, I slowly
rev the car from
idle to 3000rpm and back 3 times (about 30 sec. for
each). In most
cases, my clacking will disapear...particularly at higher
revs when the oil
pressure goes up. Sometimes it will be clacking away
and then disappear all
on it's own.
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Here in the Kansas City Area we have one station with 107
Octane and it runs around
3.50 a gallon. At our Local track it runs
around .75 cents higher. Great stuff, just
drains the wallet!
Gabe
Estrada
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92 GMC Typhoon
Oskar
wrote:
>
>
> I get 100 octane unleaded at Texaco for $3.59
in Plymouth, MN. They also
> sell 110 leaded and I am pretty sure that
sells for $3.59 as well. 93
> octane pump gas runs about
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Just flushed it last Saturday. If anything, the
pressure seems to have
dropped. I'm having a tough time finding Mobil 1
here. Seems most places
don't stock it, and those that say they do
never have it on the shelf, or
much space to put
it.
Michael
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>
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> Team;
>
> The low
pressure "may" be eleviated with a flush to clean
> out
the ole system. My guess is
> it needs the gunk and cooked oil cleaned out
from high temps
> ......then go with Mobil 1
> 10-30. Back in my
muscle car youth (another ole poop- -who
> here isn't) I swore
by
> Castrol, but I am a firm advocate of Mobil 1 now and will
>
stay so, unless something
> better comes along. Life is not
static.
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So what does everyone use to "flush" their
system with. Many different things out there to do it
with.
--
On Tue, 4 May 1999 22:49:18 Michael Dorsey
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seems to have
>dropped. I'm having a tough time finding Mobil 1
here. Seems most places
>don't stock it, and those that say they do
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>> The low pressure "may" be
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>> out the ole system. My guess
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>> it needs the gunk and cooked oil cleaned out from high
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>> ......then go with Mobil 1
>> 10-30. Back in my
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>> Castrol, but I am a firm advocate of Mobil 1 now and
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Same here. I drive about 21 miles each way to work
and drive fairly
moderate with a few 100MPH things now and then. I
usually stay in
sixth gear unless I need the power. I've been
averaging 19.5 MPG.
Took a trip to Pennsylvania doing around 80MPH and got
22MPG (also
all time high). I can't see how it's possible to get
32MPG!
--
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Borla, K&N
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Chris Winkley wrote:
>
> Andrew...
>
> I think either your speedo is wildly inaccurate, or your calculations.
I
> keep pretty careful track of my mileage. Before I changed my turbos
and
> injectors I consistently got between 12 and 14 mpg in the city (with
a fair
> amount of WOT). On the highway, with speeds of up to 140+ mph, I
get around
> 17 or 18 mpg. On a trip to the Bay area this January, I
actually used the
> cruise control at 85 mph in sixth gear and checked my
mileage after a half
> tank of gas. It was 22 mpg, an all time high. I
doubt that it's possible to
> get 32 mpg out of a VR4, under any speed, on
flat terrain.
>
> Check for loose mechanical connections, and/or
check your math.
>
> BTW...could you give me the complete size of
the tires (275/xx-18 or
> 275/xx-17) on your VR4? What brand? Any
clearance problems?
>
> Looking forward...Chris
>
>
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/blown turbo seal mod)
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 1:36
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> Subject: Team3S: Gas
mileage Question
>
> Some weird things my VR-4 does I wonder if
anyone elses does
>
> Prime gas mileage speed seems to be aroun 92
mph
>
> I got 32 mpg going from St. George, to Salt Lake city, at
92 mph cruise
> control
>
> Around the city if I am on the
gas I can burn a 1/4 of a tank just from
> going to to work
> and
back, and lunch prboably around 24 miles
>
> Is this normal
>
> When going very fast. Full throttle continuously. I can
burn a 1/8 tank in
> 5 or 6
> miles So at 160 mph I eat up
fuel at 2 mpg? That is nuts anyone else with
> this problem
>
or si the Fuel gauge kind of inacurate
>
> Only mod I have is a
bleeder valve, and cut up air box 275 mm tires rear.
> 38psi Front
>
and 32 Rear
>
> --
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This is a result of an inaccurate guage/sensor.
Think
about it...if anything you would burn less gas as the tank contents
decreased
due to the weight decrease. Also, while parked on a slant, the gas
warning
light will turn on if the tank is low enough, then go back off again
once
moving on level ground. I've seen it blink when braking hard with a low
tank
too.
Cars don't get less fuel efficient with less gas in their
tank...they get
more fuel efficient.
BTW, I agree the cars (or at least
mine) feel the best at 70-90mph. :)
-Mike
'93 Stealth ES
>
This is teh EXACT SAME BHAVIOR
>
> can't be
coincidence
(snip)
> > general drive from 75-to-85 mph
average and sometimes the
> first quarter tank
> > lasts
for 150 miles and sometimes it lasts only 70 to 80 miles.
> usually
the
> > last 3 quarter tank increments go down each step
too. 1st 150 miles
> > 2cnd 80miles
3rd 60miles and then about 45 miles.
> > I have also
noticed my car runs best at 90 to 100 miles per
> hour. It runs
>
> smoothest, reacts and turns the best. And seems to get better
>
gas mileage??
> > maybee it just seems that way. I think
the guage is
> inacurate......my car
> > has been close to
empty before and the light would go on and go off
> >
constantly.
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Howdy folks...
It's been brought to my attention
that my question about race gas prices was
off topic and non-technical in
nature. I agree. I should've requested that
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Pep boys had gunk or STP. Gunk required a cold
engine, where STP didn't.
Being the impatient person I am, I opted for
STP. It said to let it run for
5-20 minutes at 1500 RPM. I ran it
for 7 minutes at 1500, and 10 minutes at
1000. Can't say I've noticed
much of a difference, but I've run synthetic
oil for the last 10k, and the
car only has 28k total, so it probably wasn't
too bad to start off
with.
Michael
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>
>
> So what does everyone use to
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> different things out
there to do it with.
> --
>
> On Tue, 4 May 1999
22:49:18 Michael Dorsey wrote:
> >Just flushed it
last Saturday. If anything, the pressure
> seems to have
>
>dropped. I'm having a tough time finding Mobil 1 here.
> Seems
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> >don't stock it, and those that say they do never have it
on
> the shelf, or
> >much space to put it.
> >
>
>Michael
> >
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> >> Team;
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> >> The low
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>
>> out the ole system. My guess is
> >> it needs the gunk and
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> >> ......then go with Mobil
1
> >> 10-30. Back in my muscle car youth (another ole poop-
-who
> >> here isn't) I swore by
> >> Castrol, but
I am a firm advocate of Mobil 1 now and will
> >> stay so,
unless something
> >> better comes along. Life is not
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Hrmm...well that rules out dirt/baked oil/clogging
as a cause. The gauge or sending
unit may not be functioning properly as
posted earlier, or less likely, an oil pump
problem. The gauges in our cars
could be better quality that's for certain, particularly
given the sticker
price of the vehicles. The ticking/lifter noise is another issue;
a
given with these vehicles at some point or another it seems. Did the flush
help with
this, or have you experienced it? Whether or not this noise
is indicative of valve
train replacement or not, I'll leave to the rebuild
experts in the group to kick around.
Best
Darc
Michael
Dorsey wrote:
> Pep boys had gunk or STP. Gunk required a cold
engine, where STP didn't.
> Being the impatient person I am, I opted for
STP. It said to let it run for
> 5-20 minutes at 1500 RPM. I
ran it for 7 minutes at 1500, and 10 minutes at
> 1000. Can't say
I've noticed much of a difference, but I've run synthetic
> oil for the
last 10k, and the car only has 28k total, so it probably wasn't
> too bad
to start off with.
>
> Michael
>
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> maybe this guy
could build us a better tranny that fit stock specs, but
that
>
wouldn't break as much --- special metals.... titanium/carbon fiber...
etc
>
Are these parts everyone is talking about something i could have
a relative
(my brothers father-in-law) that owns a machine shop make using a
specific
metal or something stronger than what is used now? If somebody could
e-mail
me privately or something and explain what these parts look like and
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I have been following this thread for a while and I can
not help be a
little scared that my tranny will fly apart anytime
soon. I think with
this many people on the list we could band together
and make our own parts.
I work in an aluminum foundry with a pretty good
machine shop doing all
the CNC programming and engineering. If we
could get a group of people
together, define the problems with the tranny's
and then get the parts made
we could possibly solve the problems. The
syncro's seem to be the main
problem, and from what I have seen most
syncro's (sp?) are made of
brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone
has the background or the
drive to work on a project like this speak up and
let's do it.
Kevin Schappell
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Are these parts everyone is talking about something i could have
a
relative
(my brothers father-in-law) that owns a machine shop make
using a specific
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Remember that 550HP VR-4 I saw at UPRD in Huntington
Beach? Well, guess
what?... it's for sale!
I'm shocked they didn't
include all the mods performed on this vehicle. It's
a lot of custom work. I
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pulling even in 4th
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http://www.uprd.com/Classfieds/classfieds.html
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Kevin;
The brains are certainly gathered here and
the talent...it's just a little different to
do on-line brain storming with
the time lags involved, other topics interspersed, lack
of being a
physical room to examine material, etc. It makes it difficult...but
not
impossible.
Jack certainly is knowledgeable about the synchros, as
he manged a "one time only" order
of some, and perhaps could input
if someone really grabs the bull by the horns and
organizes a
"real" brainstorming situation. Paul was doing some serious
investigative
work on this not long ago and maybe can post the results again
and aftermarket sources
he found...I believe there were 2 different outlets
for splines. One, which Jack posted,
was reported to have superhardened
metal, so might be the better of the two. Again, if
we have all of the
information, material, and people in one room, a solution/new
fabrication
would not likely be that hard to achieve.This topic may be a good thing
to
have a gathering for, instead of meeing to polish cars and shake hands.
How about making
(at least) one topic like this the theme of each gathering
from this point on. That way,
maybe some serious solutions will arise to:
brakes, getrag, valve train, etc, etc. With
the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad,
Todd, Rich, Bob, Ken...the list is endless...in one
gathering with a sharp
focus (with a warehouse like Forrest's old place, endless
beer)...and there
ain't nothing I don't think we cann't do or solve. Treat it as a
classroom:
bring pictures, hardware, and examples of the problem/parts to be
improved
upon. We have the brains and all the willing help of the next
generation who are herein
offering services. Next thing...time and place
appropriate for all (holiday city). Who'd
want to miss
it.
Darc
Kevin Schappell wrote:
> I have been following
this thread for a while and I can not help be a
> little scared that my
tranny will fly apart anytime soon. I think with
> this many people
on the list we could band together and make our own parts.
> I work
in an aluminum foundry with a pretty good machine shop doing all
> the CNC
programming and engineering. If we could get a group of people
>
together, define the problems with the tranny's and then get the parts
made
> we could possibly solve the problems. The syncro's seem to be
the main
> problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's (sp?) are made
of
> brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone has the background
or the
> drive to work on a project like this speak up and let's do
it.
>
> Kevin Schappell
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Anyone find anything out about the Automatic transmission
in some vr-4s and
TTs? Thanks
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Kevin;
The brains are certainly gathered here and
the talent...it's
just a little different to
do on-line brain storming
with the time lags involved, other
topics interspersed, lack
of
being a physical room to examine material, etc. It makes
it difficult...but
not
impossible.
Jack certainly is knowledgeable about the synchros, as
he
manged a "one time only" order
of some, and perhaps could
input if someone really grabs the
bull by the horns and
organizes a
"real" brainstorming situation. Paul was doing
some serious
investigative
work on this not long ago and maybe can post the
results
again and aftermarket sources
he found...I believe there were 2
different outlets for
splines. One, which Jack posted,
was reported to
have superhardened metal, so might be the
better of the two. Again, if
we
have all of the information, material, and people in one
room, a
solution/new
fabrication would not likely be that hard to
achieve.This
topic may be a good thing to
have a gathering for, instead of
meeing to polish cars and
shake hands. How about making
(at least) one
topic like this the theme of each gathering
from this point on. That
way,
maybe some serious solutions will arise to: brakes, getrag,
valve
train, etc, etc. With
the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich, Bob,
Ken...the
list is endless...in one
gathering with a sharp focus (with a
warehouse like
Forrest's old place, endless
beer)...and there ain't
nothing I don't think we cann't do
or solve. Treat it as a
classroom:
bring pictures, hardware, and examples of the
problem/parts to be
improved
upon. We have the brains and all the willing help of the
next
generation who are herein
offering services. Next thing...time and place
appropriate
for all (holiday city). Who'd
want to miss
it.
Darc
Kevin Schappell wrote:
> I have been following
this thread for a while and I can
not help be a
> little scared that my
tranny will fly apart anytime soon.
I think with
> this many people on
the list we could band together and
make our own parts.
> I work
in an aluminum foundry with a pretty good machine
shop doing all
> the
CNC programming and engineering. If we could get a
group of
people
> together, define the problems with the tranny's and then
get
the parts made
> we could possibly solve the problems. The syncro's
seem
to be the main
> problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's
(sp?) are
made of
> brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone
has the
background or the
> drive to work on a project like this speak
up and let's do
it.
>
> Kevin Schappell
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As much of a POS the manual is to many owners...I'd
rather have 3 gears I
could control rather than an automatic.
Sorry...my
old school mentality...sports cars=manual tranny
>
>Anyone find
anything out about the Automatic transmission in some vr-4s and
>TTs?
Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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> Sent: Wednesday, May
05, 1999 7:07 PM
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>
> Kevin;
>
> The brains are
certainly gathered here and the talent...it's
>just a little different
to
> do on-line brain storming with the time lags involved,
other
>topics interspersed, lack
> of being a physical room to
examine material, etc. It makes
>it difficult...but not
>
impossible.
>
> Jack certainly is knowledgeable about the synchros,
as he
>manged a "one time only" order
> of some, and
perhaps could input if someone really grabs the
>bull by the horns
and
> organizes a "real" brainstorming situation. Paul was
doing
>some serious investigative
> work on this not long ago and
maybe can post the results
>again and aftermarket sources
> he
found...I believe there were 2 different outlets for
>splines. One, which
Jack posted,
> was reported to have superhardened metal, so might be
the
>better of the two. Again, if
> we have all of the information,
material, and people in one
>room, a solution/new
> fabrication
would not likely be that hard to achieve.This
>topic may be a good thing
to
> have a gathering for, instead of meeing to polish cars
and
>shake hands. How about making
> (at least) one topic like this
the theme of each gathering
>from this point on. That way,
> maybe
some serious solutions will arise to: brakes, getrag,
>valve train, etc,
etc. With
> the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich, Bob,
Ken...the
>list is endless...in one
> gathering with a sharp focus
(with a warehouse like
>Forrest's old place, endless
> beer)...and
there ain't nothing I don't think we cann't do
>or solve. Treat it as
a
> classroom: bring pictures, hardware, and examples of
the
>problem/parts to be improved
> upon. We have the brains and all
the willing help of the
>next generation who are herein
> offering
services. Next thing...time and place appropriate
>for all (holiday city).
Who'd
> want to miss it.
>
> Darc
>
> Kevin
Schappell wrote:
>
> > I have been following this thread for a
while and I can
>not help be a
> > little scared that my tranny
will fly apart anytime soon.
>I think with
> > this many people
on the list we could band together and
>make our own parts.
>
> I work in an aluminum foundry with a pretty good machine
>shop
doing all
> > the CNC programming and engineering. If we could
get a
>group of people
> > together, define the problems with the
tranny's and then
>get the parts made
> > we could possibly solve
the problems. The syncro's seem
>to be the main
> >
problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's (sp?) are
>made
of
> > brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone has
the
>background or the
> > drive to work on a project like this
speak up and let's do
>it.
> >
> > Kevin
Schappell
>
>
>
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Yeah but Automatic can produce consistent times, that's
why racers use them
and Nitrous works better with
them!!!!!
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Subject: RE: Team3S: ** Getrag Info
** Auto
Tranmission?
As much of a POS the manual is to many
owners...I'd rather
have 3 gears I
could control rather than an
automatic.
Sorry...my old school mentality...sports cars=manual
tranny
>
>Anyone find anything out about the Automatic
transmission
in some vr-4s and
>TTs? Thanks
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From:
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[mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, May
05, 1999 7:07 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Subject: Re:
Team3S: ** Getrag Info
**
>
> Kevin;
>
> The brains
are certainly gathered here and
the talent...it's
>just a little
different to
> do on-line brain storming with the time lags
involved,
other
>topics interspersed, lack
> of being a physical room to
examine
material, etc. It makes
>it difficult...but not
>
impossible.
>
> Jack certainly is knowledgeable about
the
synchros, as he
>manged a "one time only" order
>
of some, and perhaps could input if someone
really grabs the
>bull by
the horns and
> organizes a "real" brainstorming
situation.
Paul was doing
>some serious investigative
> work on
this not long ago and maybe can post
the results
>again and aftermarket
sources
> he found...I believe there were 2 different
outlets
for
>splines. One, which Jack posted,
> was reported to have
superhardened metal, so
might be the
>better of the two. Again,
if
> we have all of the information, material,
and people in
one
>room, a solution/new
> fabrication would not likely be that
hard to
achieve.This
>topic may be a good thing to
> have a
gathering for, instead of meeing to
polish cars and
>shake hands. How
about making
> (at least) one topic like this the theme of
each
gathering
>from this point on. That way,
> maybe some serious
solutions will arise to:
brakes, getrag,
>valve train, etc, etc.
With
> the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich,
Bob,
Ken...the
>list is endless...in one
> gathering with a sharp focus
(with a
warehouse like
>Forrest's old place, endless
>
beer)...and there ain't nothing I don't
think we cann't do
>or solve.
Treat it as a
> classroom: bring pictures, hardware, and
examples of
the
>problem/parts to be improved
> upon. We have the brains and all
the willing
help of the
>next generation who are herein
>
offering services. Next thing...time and
place appropriate
>for all
(holiday city). Who'd
> want to miss it.
>
>
Darc
>
> Kevin Schappell wrote:
>
> > I have been
following this thread for a
while and I can
>not help be a
> >
little scared that my tranny will fly
apart anytime soon.
>I think
with
> > this many people on the list we could band
together
and
>make our own parts.
> > I work in an aluminum foundry
with a
pretty good machine
>shop doing all
> > the CNC
programming and engineering. If
we could get a
>group of
people
> > together, define the problems with the
tranny's and
then
>get the parts made
> > we could possibly solve the
problems. The
syncro's seem
>to be the main
> > problem,
and from what I have seen most
syncro's (sp?) are
>made of
> >
brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If
anyone has the
>background
or the
> > drive to work on a project like this speak
up and let's
do
>it.
> >
> > Kevin
Schappell
>
>
>
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In a message dated 99-05-05 13:56:37 EDT, you
write:
<< I have been following this thread for a while and I can
not help be a
little scared that my tranny will fly apart anytime
soon.
snip
The syncro's seem to be the main
problem, and from
what I have seen most syncro's (sp?) are made of
brass/bronze/some powdered
metal. If anyone has the background or the
drive to work on a project
like this speak up and let's do it.
>>
I talked to a
California company called BRE engines awhile back about
rebuilding trannys
w/ bad synchros. They are a drag racing products company
that races
everything from rail cars to street cars. Their cars hold several
national
records (I think they sponsor a Civic, for example). They do a
rebuild
UPGRADE for Talon/Eclipse/Laser transaxles that improves shifting
performance. An independent source confirmed that the upgrade is for real
after a test drive.
I called and talked to them about the difficulty
in finding synchros for the
3000GT/Stealth and was told they have the
capability for manufacturing
synchros out of solid brass if need be. I
suggested that BRE might offer
synchros if they got a chance to work on a
tranny and take some measurements.
The guy I talked to seemed interested in
the idea.
To get this ball rolling all we need to do is have someone take
the plunge
and send in their bad tranny to BRE for a rebuild. I did,
however, forget to
get a price for a rebuild (duuuuhhhh). First thing we
need to do is contact
BRE and get an estimate on the rebuild cost and the
price for individual and
partial/full sets of synchros.
If the
rebuild cost turns out to be really high, I suggest we hold a lottery
to
help with the cost:
"ONE LUCKY WINNER WILL GET $XXXXX TOWARDS A
TRANNY REBUILD BY FAMED RACING
COMPANY BRE ENGINES!!!!"
My
tranny is virtually brand new and I shift gennnntlyyyy so I doubt I'll
ever
need new synchros - but It p***** me off the way Mitsu/Getrag won't
supply
parts so I'd be willing to pledge some $$$ towards a lottery fund just
to
see a source for good (improved??!!) synchros
developed.
Whaddayaguysthink?
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In a message dated 99-05-05 00:03:32 EDT, you
write:
<< What kind of noise?? Is it a slight clicking or does it
sound like
someone is lightly tapping the side of the top end with a hammer?
Does
the noise ever go away?? Are you sure the noise is coming from the
valve
area and not the underside of the engine?? >>
Clicking and
light tapping at times. Only barely audible from inside the car
at a stop
(radio and even a/c-heater fan on low masks it easily) Sounds like
multiple
valves. Goes away at higher revs. Sounds like it is coming from the
front
bank of valves. Sounds very much like your description. At least the
valves
go bad in a consistent manner...
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Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
>
.
>
> Whaddayaguysthink?
>
I like the idea Paul.. a
good start is to get a price, and hey, mine or anyone's tranny
can go
from what I've heard, even with the finest/gentlest touch at the wheel. So
after
a price all we need is a uncorruptable to run the
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Maybe if the "Originators" of both this list,
3si, and the 3000GT List got together and went before Mitsu (USA - Pierre
Gagnon, CEO and Japan if necessary) to explain the problem from their overall
perspective, then maybe we could get some action. As individuals, our wonderful
Mitsu Corp folks, couldn't care less, as long as we keep opening our wallets to
them. Mitsu is in a world of hurt financially, along with Nissan, so maybe
they would listen to a dollars and cents approach. Of course nobody wants
to keep shelling out money to rebuild a tranny, but if parts are more readily
available, I think people would be willing to stay with the brand - but as long
as they keep the upper hand and make us buy a whole unit - probably thinking
greater dollars and cents on this one - the 3si community will continue to
shrink. I've got a car that's really worth about $12,500 on the market,
but with grinding synchros, my value drops a couple of grand. Law of
Economics says to ditch it wh!
ile I can get what I can or continue to loose
money hand over fist due to continued problems.
--
On Wed, 05 May 1999
16:06:45 wce wrote:
>Kevin;
>
>The brains are
certainly gathered here and the talent...it's just a little different
to
>do on-line brain storming with the time lags involved, other topics
interspersed, lack
>of being a physical room to examine material,
etc. It makes it difficult...but not
>impossible.
>
>Jack
certainly is knowledgeable about the synchros, as he manged a "one time
only" order
>of some, and perhaps could input if someone really grabs
the bull by the horns and
>organizes a "real" brainstorming
situation. Paul was doing some serious investigative
>work on this not
long ago and maybe can post the results again and aftermarket sources
>he
found...I believe there were 2 different outlets for splines. One, which Jack
posted,
>was reported to have superhardened metal, so might be the better
of the two. Again, if
>we have all of the information, material, and
people in one room, a solution/new
>fabrication would not likely be that
hard to achieve.This topic may be a good thing to
>have a gathering for,
instead of meeing to polish cars and shake hands. How about making
>(at
least) one topic like this the theme of each gathering from this point on. That
way,
>maybe some serious solutions will arise to: brakes, getrag, valve
train, etc, etc. With
>the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich, Bob,
Ken...the list is endless...in one
>gathering with a sharp focus (with a
warehouse like Forrest's old place, endless
>beer)...and there ain't
nothing I don't think we cann't do or solve. Treat it as a
>classroom:
bring pictures, hardware, and examples of the problem/parts to be
improved
>upon. We have the brains and all the willing help of the next
generation who are herein
>offering services. Next thing...time and place
appropriate for all (holiday city). Who'd
>want to miss
it.
>
>Darc
>
>Kevin Schappell
wrote:
>
>> I have been following this thread for a while and I
can not help be a
>> little scared that my tranny will fly apart
anytime soon. I think with
>> this many people on the list we
could band together and make our own parts.
>> I work in an
aluminum foundry with a pretty good machine shop doing all
>> the CNC
programming and engineering. If we could get a group of people
>>
together, define the problems with the tranny's and then get the parts
made
>> we could possibly solve the problems. The syncro's seem
to be the main
>> problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's
(sp?) are made of
>> brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone
has the background or the
>> drive to work on a project like this speak
up and let's do it.
>>
>> Kevin
Schappell
>
>
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Every TT stealth or Vr-4 I have ever driven with an auto
transmission always
had very slow response time switching
gears.. The tranny would build up the
miles and hesitate between
gears.... almost like it is having to GUESS too
much..... not smooth
or quick enough for me....just my opinion.
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band together and make our own
parts.
> I work in an aluminum foundry with a pretty good machine shop
doing all
>the CNC programming and engineering>we could possibly solve
the problems.
The syncro's seem tobe th emain problem what I
have seen most syncro's (sp?)
are made of brass/bronze/some powdered
metal. If anyone has the background
or the drive to work on a project
like this speak up and let's do it.
I tried several times about a
month ago to get some used syncros to take to
a restoration machine shop in
southern Ca. [ they make restoration parts for
Ferrari - lambo etc. ]. I
would like a used set to take in to see if it's feasible and
to get a rough
idea of cost. A new set would be needed at some time but at least
some
positive action would be made.
Help me out here
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I've searched many a used car list to try & locate an
Automatic VR-4 or TT.
Never found even one? If it existed, can this tranny be
bought from a dealer?
Arty 91 VR-4
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Every TT stealth or Vr-4 I have ever
driven with an auto transmission always
had very slow response time
switching gears.. The tranny would build up
the
miles and hesitate
between gears.... almost like it is having to GUESS too
much..... not
smooth or quick enough for me....just my opinion.
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When I drive 80 mph in fifth gear.............and try to
lightly
accelerate.....my boost gauge gets to 0 and I hear and feel a
pop up front
and my car will not accelerate. I have to be in 3rd
gear to drive at 80mph
without tearing my turbos up.....this is
crazy......
Cruise control is totally out of the question as
well. If I put it in 5th
and try to even cruise at 90mph
when I reach a hill the boost tries to
build and I hear the
popping again.
When I try to accelerate from a stop......the car gets good
boost until the
needle gets to
about 7 psi ?((which takes
all of not even one second of course)) on the
stock guage and
then the turbos start cutting out and I lose horsepower
and the car stops accelerating......and my exhaust gets reall choppy
basically....any accleleration in my car has to be done
with the RPM's
above 4000!!!! or not done at all!!!!
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I think this would be the best
route. If anyone has an old tranny laying
around take it apart and send
a syncro to me or someone else to measure.
Then a drawing can be made and
requests for quotes can be sent out. The
nice thing about the list
being national, we can get the best price.
Machining costs vary greatly
depending on location. Maybe the guy who is
offering the rebuilt
transmissions can give us an old one or even measure a
new one. I think
it would be in his best interest to help us as he may have
a cheap source of
parts down the road. (maybe even a stronger one) Once we
have the
cheapest quote we can get an initial small batch and have them
tested.
(read-we need guinea pigs) As for money, here is my idea. Who
ever
would like to contribute can chip in for the first batch of parts.
Then we
will distribute the parts first to the ones who paid up front and
then sell
the remaining ones to repay the investors. Now I don't know
how we keep
this honest but I am sure we can work some kind of open
accounting system
online so everyone can be assured of a fair deal. I
don't know how to
address liability. Today with the state of this
country and lawyers it
could be a tricky issue. Any
ideas?
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>band together and make our own parts.
>I tried
several times about a month ago to get some used syncros to take to
>a
restoration machine shop in southern Ca. [ they make restoration
parts
for
>Ferrari - lambo etc. ]. I would like a used set to take in
to see if it's
feasible and
>to get a rough idea of cost. A new set
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Aso8@aol.com wrote:
>
> I've searched many a
used car list to try & locate an Automatic VR-4 or TT.
> Never found
even one? If it existed, can this tranny be bought from a dealer?
I
believe, that when the Stealth/3000GT first came out, they had an auto
tranny
available, but ONLY for a VERY short while. I would suspect that
the product
may have been limited to Japan. I don't believe it was ever
officially
advertised as being available. I wouldn't bet that it can be
bought from the
dealer.
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Perhaps someone who bought some parts from the original
Jack Tartadian
order hasn't installed them yet. It would be best to use
UNUSED items as
a model since you don't want someone creating duplicates of
worn parts.
Additionally, why limit it to just synchros...how about a full
kit
including seals. Also keep in mind that parts will be needed to
produce
parts for both 5 and 6 speed transaxles.Possibly, we could by a pair
of
new (or rebuilt) Getrag 5 and 6 speed units. That SOUNDS like a lot
of
money, but between the members on this list and those on the web
site,
isn't it possible we could find at least a hundred people to combine
to
buy a pair of units for disassembly?? I know I'd be MORE than willing
to
fork over $60.00 - $100.00 for this "research" effort!! Perhaps
we could
even find someone willing to part with a busted Getrag so the
weaknesses
could be properly analyzed. About the only thing I'd be worried
about is
that the materials being used are strong enough to do the
job.
As far as liability goes...it's probably Mitsubishi and Chryslers
risk,
after all, this is being caused by their policy.
Just my
opinions,
Bill Wagner
Kevin Schappell wrote:
>
> I think this
would be the best route. If anyone has an old tranny laying
> around
take it apart and send a syncro to me or someone else to measure.
> Then a
drawing can be made and requests for quotes can be sent out. The
>
nice thing about the list being national, we can get the best price.
>
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is
> offering the rebuilt transmissions can give us an old one or even
measure a
> new one. I think it would be in his best interest to
help us as he may have
> a cheap source of parts down the road. (maybe
even a stronger one) Once we
> have the cheapest quote we can get an
initial small batch and have them
> tested. (read-we need guinea pigs) As
for money, here is my idea. Who ever
> would like to contribute can
chip in for the first batch of parts. Then we
> will distribute the
parts first to the ones who paid up front and then sell
> the remaining
ones to repay the investors. Now I don't know how we keep
> this
honest but I am sure we can work some kind of open accounting system
>
online so everyone can be assured of a fair deal. I don't know how
to
> address liability. Today with the state of this country and
lawyers it
> could be a tricky issue. Any ideas?
>
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I tend to lean in favor of
organizing a class action lawsuit which I think would be more persuasive than
sending the CEO a "Dear Sir, ... signed, Concerned Customer"
letter. I was very close to inquiring with a couple law firms, but stopped
to find out what progress the previous legal saber rattling on the 3000gt.com
web board had went. Answer: nowhere yet.
My transmission is on the
floor while I do the clutch, waiting for a replacement of a defective NEW
release bearing which luckily I noticed before installing #@!$! Anyway
since its out of the car I noticed the wear on the rear output shaft spline,
which is starting to show obvious and I'd say abnormal wear ridge patterns after
only 35,000 miles on the car. Mine isn't gone yet, but I'd say the
consistency of this one problem (shaft splines) demonstrates a design
definciency in the transmission. The synchros is an additional
problem. As I understand it, we'd have to prove that Mitsu knew
about the problems and design deficiencies in the transmission and did nothing
to correct it. So those of you who, to your credit, have complained in
writing and gotten the boilerplate "not our problem. pbbbbt!" letter
back, keep that stuff around for possible future reference.
email me
privately so as not to crowd the list if you're pissed and you think you'd like
to "join the class" if we go forward with
this.
Dave
Terry Swift wrote:
> Maybe if the
"Originators" of both this list, 3si, and the 3000GT List got together
and went before Mitsu (USA - Pierre Gagnon, CEO and Japan if necessary) to
explain the problem from their overall perspective, then maybe we could get some
action. As individuals, our wonderful Mitsu Corp folks, couldn't care less, as
long as we keep opening our wallets to them. Mitsu is in a world of hurt
financially, along with Nissan, so maybe they would listen to a dollars and
cents approach. Of course nobody wants to keep shelling out money to
rebuild a tranny, but if parts are more readily available, I think people would
be willing to stay with the brand - but as long as they keep the upper hand and
make us buy a whole unit - probably thinking greater dollars and cents on this
one - the 3si community will continue to shrink. I've got a car that's
really worth about $12,500 on the market, but with grinding synchros, my value
drops a couple of grand. Law of Economics says to ditch it
!
wh!
> ile I can get what I can or continue to loose money hand over
fist due to continued problems.
> --
>
> On Wed, 05 May 1999
16:06:45 wce wrote:
> >Kevin;
> >
> >The
brains are certainly gathered here and the talent...it's just a little different
to
> >do on-line brain storming with the time lags involved, other
topics interspersed, lack
> >of being a physical room to examine
material, etc. It makes it difficult...but not
> >impossible.
>
>
> >Jack certainly is knowledgeable about the synchros, as he
manged a "one time only" order
> >of some, and perhaps could
input if someone really grabs the bull by the horns and
> >organizes a
"real" brainstorming situation. Paul was doing some serious
investigative
> >work on this not long ago and maybe can post the
results again and aftermarket sources
> >he found...I believe there
were 2 different outlets for splines. One, which Jack posted,
> >was
reported to have superhardened metal, so might be the better of the two. Again,
if
> >we have all of the information, material, and people in one room,
a solution/new
> >fabrication would not likely be that hard to
achieve.This topic may be a good thing to
> >have a gathering for,
instead of meeing to polish cars and shake hands. How about making
>
>(at least) one topic like this the theme of each gathering from this point
on. That way,
> >maybe some serious solutions will arise to: brakes,
getrag, valve train, etc, etc. With
> >the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad,
Todd, Rich, Bob, Ken...the list is endless...in one
> >gathering with a
sharp focus (with a warehouse like Forrest's old place, endless
>
>beer)...and there ain't nothing I don't think we cann't do or solve. Treat
it as a
> >classroom: bring pictures, hardware, and examples of the
problem/parts to be improved
> >upon. We have the brains and all the
willing help of the next generation who are herein
> >offering
services. Next thing...time and place appropriate for all (holiday city).
Who'd
> >want to miss it.
> >
> >Darc
>
>
> >Kevin Schappell wrote:
> >
> >> I have
been following this thread for a while and I can not help be a
> >>
little scared that my tranny will fly apart anytime soon. I think
with
> >> this many people on the list we could band together and
make our own parts.
> >> I work in an aluminum foundry with a
pretty good machine shop doing all
> >> the CNC programming and
engineering. If we could get a group of people
> >> together,
define the problems with the tranny's and then get the parts made
>
>> we could possibly solve the problems. The syncro's seem to be the
main
> >> problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's (sp?) are
made of
> >> brass/bronze/some powdered metal. If anyone has
the background or the
> >> drive to work on a project like this
speak up and let's do it.
> >>
> >> Kevin
Schappell
> >
> >
> >
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I had some feedback from another list member that my
new clutch bearing
might not be defective after all. On the new
bearing, I can move the
inner bearing back and forth inside the race.
The first time I looked
at it, it was not centered and I thought the sleeve
portion of the
clutch fork cage was pressed in crooked. After futzing
with it a
little, it went "pop" and the bearing moved more back
into center in the
race.
My only concern is that the old bearing
doesn't have this looseness
between the bearing and race. But maybe it
gets squashed down some
after its had some load on it.
I'm just really
'noid about putting this thing in the car and then
finding out its screwed
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hehehe, I wanted to do something SIMPLE to my Dodge
TT....change the spark
plug vires.
There was a thunderstorm coming,
but I was thinking....rain won't be there
before at least 15 minutes...and I
do NOT need that to do something as
simple as to swap the plugs
wires..
WRONG......aarrgggllll
Seems that the Mitsu engineers are
MORE perverted than the NISSAN engineers
(they were ranked 1st so
far...)
So...tell me...do I really have to remove the intake plenum to
change the
wires....how long will it take...what should I do at the same time
(spark
plugs....probably)..is there a "how-to" somewhere on the
net...etc, etc..
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:46:40 +0200
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Hi
Yes you have to remove the intake plenum to
change plugs and/or wires. The job can be done in about 1 houer and isn't as
hard as it first looks. The only real problem is when you remove the (EGR pipe
in the back, close to firewall) there is a small gasket that you have to guard
with your life. If you drop that one... place a towel under it before you start
and don't forget to take the towel away after the istallation. I did !! and that
resultet in a nice big engine fire !!! and I know that atleast one more on the
list have had a fire due to the same misstake (no names)
Change plugs at
the same time, this isn't a job you would like to do again in the near
future. If you are planning on using higher boost gap the plugs 0.30-0.35.
And use the NGK plugs they are the best.
Kevin have some information
about the removal on his
page.
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Other_gto_manual.html
Oh
one more thing, if you have problem to get the Y-pipe back on the throttle body
then use a hot air gun to warm the Y-pipe. This will make it very easy to get it
in place.
Hope it helps
Mikael Akesson
http://www.3000gt.nu
-----Original Message-----
From: Genesiscon Lehir
<lehir@genesiscom.ch>
>So...tell me...do I really have to remove
the intake plenum to change the
>wires....how long will it take...what
should I do at the same time (spark
>plugs....probably)..is there a
"how-to" somewhere on the net...etc, etc..
>
>See
you
>
>Henri
>
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Subject: Re: Team3S: More Turbo problems
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MitsuVR41:
Sounds to me like you need a plugs and
wires change. My car exhibited
much the same. New plugs (gapped
to 0.034) and wires changed all that
for me.
Good
luck.
Scott
On Wed, 5 May 1999 21:25:15 EDT MitsuVR41@aol.com
writes:
>When I drive 80 mph in fifth gear.............and try to lightly
>accelerate.....my boost gauge gets to 0 and I hear and feel a pop
up
>front
>and my car will not accelerate. I have to
be in 3rd gear to drive at
>80mph
>without tearing my turbos
up.....this is crazy......
>Cruise control is totally out of
the question as well. If I put it
>in 5th
>and try to
even cruise at 90mph when I reach a hill the boost tries
>to
>build and I hear the popping again.
>When I try to
accelerate from a stop......the car gets good boost
>until the
>needle gets to
>about 7 psi ?((which takes all of not even
one second of course)) on
>the
>stock guage and
then the turbos start cutting out and I lose
>horsepower
>and the car stops accelerating......and my exhaust
gets reall choppy
>basically....any accleleration in my car
has to be done with the
>RPM's
>above 4000!!!! or not
done at all!!!!
>any ideas????????????
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Subject: Re: Team3S: clutch bearing
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David:
Being a novice, I can only offer
experience. I had my clutch replaced
last June. They replaced a
seized TOB maybe two months later, indicating
the were made from a different
material. The second time they also lubed
the shaft. I'm still
not convinced the part is where it needs to be
versus "feel" from
the previous one. I question cutting of corners to
save
$.
Regards,
SJ
On Wed, 05 May 1999 23:53:03 -0700 David
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>
>I had some
feedback from another list member that my new clutch
>bearing
>might not be defective after all. On the new
bearing, I can move the
>inner bearing back and forth inside the
race. The first time I
>looked
>at it, it was not centered
and I thought the sleeve portion of the
>clutch fork cage was pressed in
crooked. After futzing with it a
>little, it went "pop"
and the bearing moved more back into center in
>the
>race.
>
>My only concern is that the old bearing
doesn't have this looseness
>between the bearing and race. But maybe
it gets squashed down some
>after its had some load on
it.
>
>I'm just really 'noid about putting this thing in the car and
then
>finding out its screwed
up.
>
>Dave
>
>
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Subject: Re: Team3S: ** Getrag Info **
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David and all:
Does not the new Nissan TT also use
Getrag 6-speeds? Won't they begin to
experience this problem
too?
Regards,
SJ
On Wed, 05 May 1999 22:57:55 -0700 David
Margrave <davidma@premier1.net>
writes:
>
>I tend to lean
in favor of organizing a class action lawsuit which I
>think would be
more persuasive than sending the CEO a "Dear Sir, ...
>signed,
Concerned Customer" letter. I was very close to inquiring
>with a couple law firms, but stopped to find out what progress the
>previous legal saber rattling on the 3000gt.com web board had
went.
>Answer: nowhere yet.
>
>My transmission is on
the floor while I do the clutch, waiting for a
>replacement of a
defective NEW release bearing which luckily I noticed
>before installing
#@!$! Anyway since its out of the car I noticed the
>wear on the
rear output shaft spline, which is starting to show
>obvious and I'd say
abnormal wear ridge patterns after only 35,000
>miles on the car.
Mine isn't gone yet, but I'd say the consistency of
>this one problem
(shaft splines) demonstrates a design definciency in
>the
transmission. The synchros is an additional problem. As I
>understand it, we'd have to prove that Mitsu knew about the problems
>and design deficiencies in the transmission and did nothing to correct
>it. So those of you who, to your credit, have complained in
writing
>and gotten the boilerplate "not our problem. pbbbbt!"
letter back,
>keep that stuff around for possible future
reference.
>
>email me privately so as not to crowd the list if
you're pissed and
>you think you'd like to "join the class" if
we go forward with this.
>
>Dave
>
>
>Terry Swift
wrote:
>
>> Maybe if the "Originators" of both this
list, 3si, and the 3000GT
>List got together and went before Mitsu (USA -
Pierre Gagnon, CEO and
>Japan if necessary) to explain the problem from
their overall
>perspective, then maybe we could get some action. As
individuals, our
>wonderful Mitsu Corp folks, couldn't care less, as long
as we keep
>opening our wallets to them. Mitsu is in a world of
hurt financially,
>along with Nissan, so maybe they would listen to a
dollars and cents
>approach. Of course nobody wants to keep
shelling out money to
>rebuild a tranny, but if parts are more readily
available, I think
>people would be willing to stay with the brand - but
as long as they
>keep the upper hand and make us buy a whole unit -
probably thinking
>greater dollars and cents on this one - the 3si
community will
>continue to shrink. I've got a car that's really
worth about $12,500
>on the market, but with grinding synchros, my value
drops a couple of
>grand. Law of Economics says to ditch it
!
>wh!
>> ile I can get what I can or continue to loose money
hand over fist
>due to continued problems.
>>
--
>>
>> On Wed, 05 May 1999 16:06:45 wce
wrote:
>> >Kevin;
>> >
>> >The brains are
certainly gathered here and the talent...it's just a
>little different
to
>> >do on-line brain storming with the time lags involved, other
topics
>interspersed, lack
>> >of being a physical room
to examine material, etc. It makes it
>difficult...but not
>>
>impossible.
>> >
>> >Jack certainly is knowledgeable
about the synchros, as he manged a
>"one time only"
order
>> >of some, and perhaps could input if someone really grabs
the bull
>by the horns and
>> >organizes a "real"
brainstorming situation. Paul was doing some
>serious
investigative
>> >work on this not long ago and maybe can post the
results again and
>aftermarket sources
>> >he found...I
believe there were 2 different outlets for splines.
>One, which Jack
posted,
>> >was reported to have superhardened metal, so might be
the better of
>the two. Again, if
>> >we have all of the
information, material, and people in one room, a
>solution/new
>> >fabrication would not likely be that hard
to achieve.This topic may
>be a good thing to
>> >have a
gathering for, instead of meeing to polish cars and shake
>hands. How
about making
>> >(at least) one topic like this the theme of each
gathering from
>this point on. That way,
>> >maybe some
serious solutions will arise to: brakes, getrag, valve
>train, etc, etc.
With
>> >the likes of Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich, Bob, Ken...the
list is
>endless...in one
>> >gathering with a sharp focus
(with a warehouse like Forrest's old
>place, endless
>>
>beer)...and there ain't nothing I don't think we cann't do or
>solve.
Treat it as a
>> >classroom: bring pictures, hardware, and examples
of the
>problem/parts to be improved
>> >upon. We have the
brains and all the willing help of the next
>generation who are
herein
>> >offering services. Next thing...time and place
appropriate for all
>(holiday city). Who'd
>> >want to miss
it.
>> >
>> >Darc
>> >
>> >Kevin
Schappell wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have been following
this thread for a while and I can not help
>be a
>> >>
little scared that my tranny will fly apart anytime soon. I
>think
with
>> >> this many people on the list we could band together
and make our
>own parts.
>> >> I work in an aluminum
foundry with a pretty good machine shop
>doing all
>> >>
the CNC programming and engineering. If we could get a group of
>people
>> >> together, define the problems with the
tranny's and then get the
>parts made
>> >> we could
possibly solve the problems. The syncro's seem to be
>the
main
>> >> problem, and from what I have seen most syncro's (sp?)
are made
>of
>> >> brass/bronze/some powdered metal.
If anyone has the background
>or the
>> >> drive to work
on a project like this speak up and let's do it.
>>
>>
>> >> Kevin Schappell
>> >
>>
>
>> >
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I have a
set of used 1-2-3-4 synchro's you can have, just tell me where to send
them.
Bryan
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band together and make our own parts.
>
I tried
several times about a month ago to get some used syncros to take to
a
restoration machine shop in southern Ca. [ they make restoration parts
for
Ferrari - lambo etc. ]. I would like a used set to take in to see if it's
feasible and
to get a rough idea of cost. A new set would be needed at some
time but at least
some positive action would be
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I talked to BRE about rebuilding my trans. prior to
having Buschur =
racing perform it. What they talked to me about was a mod
they would =
performed to it which would make it easier to shift, not
rebuilding it. =
The mod would be the same as the dsm mod which enables you
to speed =
shift. The problem was they had never done a mitsu getrag trans,
didn't =
have parts to rebuild and needed a good trans to perform the mod.,
which =
btw cost $295 for dsm's. Any additional parts needed were extra.
Their =
mod sounds interesting and if I had an extra trans I would try them,
but =
I didn't want to wait, so I let Buschur rebuild it with synchro's from
=
Jack. After 7k miles, I'm happy to report the car shifts great and I
=
have no leaks.
Bryan
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In a message dated 99-05-05 13:56:37 EDT, you
write:
snip
The syncro's seem to be the main=20
problem, and
from what I have seen most syncro's (sp?) are made of=20
brass/bronze/some
powdered metal. If anyone has the background or the=20
drive to work on
a project like this speak up and let's do it.
>>
I talked
to a California company called BRE engines awhile back about=20
rebuilding
trannys w/ bad synchros. They are a drag racing products =
company=20
that
races everything from rail cars to street cars. Their cars hold
=
several=20
national records (I think they sponsor a Civic, for example).
They do a=20
rebuild UPGRADE for Talon/Eclipse/Laser transaxles that improves
=
shifting=20
performance. An independent source confirmed that the
upgrade is for =
real=20
after a test drive.
I called and talked to
them about the difficulty in finding synchros for =
the=20
3000GT/Stealth
and was told they have the capability for manufacturing=20
synchros out of
solid brass if need be. I suggested that BRE might offer =
synchros if
they got a chance to work on a tranny and take some =
measurements.=20
The
guy I talked to seemed interested in the idea.
To get this ball rolling
all we need to do is have someone take the =
plunge=20
and send in their
bad tranny to BRE for a rebuild. I did, however, =
forget to=20
get a
price for a rebuild (duuuuhhhh). First thing we need to do is
=
contact=20
BRE and get an estimate on the rebuild cost and the price for
individual =
and=20
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synchros.=20
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Hi
I wonder what makes a 15G a 15G.
Does
anyone have the specs for a 15G turbo? How big is the inlet, outlet, shaft, trim
level etc. All info I can get is great.
I also want to know the outside
diameter of the inlet (from air filter) and outlet (to intercooler) of the
turbo.
I ask this because I have found a company that performs 15g
conversions for a very good price (in Sweden) but since the VR-4 are so
rare here I want to double check the specs so I don't get f...ed.
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Is anyone going to the Ocean City Maryland event that is
interested in
working on reproducing parts? Maybe we can get together
and try to work
out a game plan. If anyone is going and can bring a
syncro that would be
great. I will be there early Saturday morning and
I am not sure if I will
stay till Sunday. E-mail me off of the list if
you will be there and then
we can plan something.
I agree with David that
forcing Mitsu to make the parts available would be
a better option. No
liability but would we get a stronger syncro?
Kevin Schappell
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-----Original Message-----
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>> >Kevin;
>> >
>> >The brains are
certainly gathered here and the talent...it's just a
>little different
to
>> >do on-line brain storming with the time lags involved, other
topics
>interspersed, lack
>> >of being a physical room
to examine material, etc. It makes it
>difficult...but not
>>
>impossible.
>> >
>> >Jack certainly is knowledgeable
about the synchros, as he manged a
>"one time only"
order
>> >of some, and perhaps could input if someone really grabs
the bull
>by the horns and
>> >organizes a "real"
brainstorming situation. Paul was doing some
>serious
investigative
>> >work on this not long ago and maybe can post the
results again and
>aftermarket sources
>> >he found...I
believe there were 2 different outlets for splines.
>One, which Jack
posted,
>> >was reported to have superhardened metal, so might be
the better of
>the two. Again, if
>> >we have all of the
information, material, and people in one room, a
>solution/new
>>
>fabrication would not likely be that hard to achieve.This topic
may
>be a good thing to
>> >have a gathering for, instead of
meeing to polish cars and shake
>hands. How about making
>>
>(at least) one topic like this the theme of each gathering from
>this
point on. That way,
>> >maybe some serious solutions will arise to:
brakes, getrag, valve
>train, etc, etc. With
>> >the likes of
Barry, Jack, Brad, Todd, Rich, Bob, Ken...the list is
>endless...in
one
>> >gathering with a sharp focus (with a warehouse like
Forrest's old
>place, endless
>> >beer)...and there ain't
nothing I don't think we cann't do or
>solve. Treat it as a
>>
>classroom: bring pictures, hardware, and examples of
the
>problem/parts to be improved
>> >upon. We have the brains
and all the willing help of the next
>generation who are
herein
>> >offering services. Next thing...time and place
appropriate for all
>(holiday city). Who'd
>> >want to miss
it.
>> >
>> >Darc
>> >
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Maybe somebody could take a picture of
the different parts and put it on the
3SI website so whoever has a contact on
having these made can show them and
get a rough idea on how much they will
cost to be made.
Brad #078
91 Dodge Stealth RT TT
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> I have a set of
used 1-2-3-4 synchro's you can have, just tell me where to
send them.
>
Bryan
> ----------
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> band together and make our own parts.
>
>
>
>
> I tried several times about a month ago to get some used
syncros to take
to
> a restoration machine shop in southern Ca. [ they
make restoration parts
for
> Ferrari - lambo etc. ]. I would like a
used set to take in to see if it's
feasible and
> to get a rough idea
of cost. A new set would be needed at some time but at
least
> some
positive action would be made.
>
> Help me
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From: David
Margrave
>
>I tend to lean in favor of organizing a class action
lawsuit which I think would be more persuasive
than >sending the CEO a
"Dear Sir, ... signed, Concerned Customer" letter. I was very
close to
inquiring with a >couple law firms, but stopped to find out what
progress the previous legal saber
rattling on the 3000gt.com >web board
had went. Answer: nowhere
yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We
need to initiate more than one solution !! A class action lawsuit, if
feasible
will take years to resolve. I for one will need parts in the next 6
months. My
second gear synchro is in its final stages of life.
Appearently
Turboharry is working on something back east but I don't have
any solid
information. I think their working on developing a 6 speed
parts
supplier.
As for our European contingent I know there's a lot of
racing fabrication going
on in Europe. Any chance of developing a supplier
from that group.
Other items like bearings are probably easier, I doubt
getrag manufactures
its own bearings. The bearings should be stamped with
mfg. codes which
might allow us to track down a supplier. For example
my Yamaha V-Max
needed a front fork bearing --- Yamaha wanted $55 --- I got
the same part
from a bearing supplier for
$18
Jim Berry
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<< I can't see how it's possible to get 32MPG!
>>
I just moved from CA to Florida, and I-40 in Arizona and New
Mexico had 50
mph tailwinds. Normally I get 16 mpg city and 20-22
highway. With the
tailwind, though, I measured 29 mpg at 79 mph.
Remember, though, that many
stock odometers are about 3% optimistic (so it
may have been "only" 28 mpg,
yet far more than I ever
expected). My wife's MR2 usually got 24 mpg best,
and on that same
stretch passed 30 mpg.
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> Sounds to me like you need a plugs and wires
change. My car exhibited
> much the same. New plugs (gapped to
0.034) and wires changed all that
> for me.
Well, this may help but
does not explain the popping sound he (name ?) noticed.
Usually, if your
engine acts like this, boost is getting lost due to a leak
between the turbos
and the throttle body. The popping you hear sounds like a
defect valve to me
and I doubt that the turbos are the problem. Also the timing
could be off as
this would cause the behaviour you described too but doesn't
explains the
"pop" to me.
First, check all the hoses and pipes between the
turbos, IC's and trottlebody.
Especially check the hoses running up to the
y-pipe and look for cracks. Such a
crack would not cause a leak until boost
exceeds an amount and then can open
pretty quick. This may cause the sound
you hear. Also check the hose running
down to the by-pass valve and check the
mounting of it too.
If you have a problem, please always add your mods or
changes to the post as
this would make it easier to give you some advice
:)
Hope this helps,
Roger
-----------------------
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At 08:54 PM 5/6/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> Sounds to
me like you need a plugs and wires change. My car exhibited
>>
much the same. New plugs (gapped to 0.034) and wires changed all
that
>> for me.
>
>Well, this may help but does not explain
the popping sound he (name ?)
noticed.
I am coming in late, but it
sounds like it might be jumping time. Maybe a
worn timing belt? Maybe coolant
leaked and damaged the belt. Just a thought.
>
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Roger:
>Well, this may help but does not explain
the popping sound he (name ?)
>noticed.
You may be right, but my
car did make a "popping noise" under heavy
acceleration in 5th
until I did the change. Later I attributed it to be
a misfire.
<shrug> Once I did the change, the car has never run better
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> You may be right, but my car did make a "popping
noise" under heavy
> acceleration in 5th until I did the
change. Later I attributed it to be
> a misfire.
Yes, this
was under heavy load. Unfortunately, it's very hard to determine the
sound if
not heard by myself. I agree with you on the wires and plugs to be
changed if
they are old or do have a high milage. But it's an investment and for
some of
us not easy to do by ourselfs. Anyway, if the tubing/hoses are ok the
wires
plugs are the next step :)
Roger
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Instead of trying to use a supercharger or other
forced-induction
system, How high can I raise the compression? Is there a
formula that
can be used to get a compression ratio without valve problems.
Is the
valve clearance listed in the repair manual? Thanks
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Well, I am 21 and I have taken the intake plenum off of my
vehicle several
times for multiple reasons. I can tell you, the first
time, there can be
alot to remember, a manual can be handy just in
case you forget your
vaccuum hose routings. I think you
can do it without disconnecting any
vaccuum hoses (not sure
though). I have the manual with full vacuum hose
layout and mapping
and a help section to assist you in removing the plenum if
you would be
interested in having a copy. As far as I remember, you have
to unbolt the the throttle body, an intake pipe, the
injector controller
up top, the egr pipes on the back, you can either unbolt
the egr valve, or
disconnect the vacuum hoses to it and pull it
out with the plenum, lets
see, you probably have to take your y
pipe out and that's the bulk of the
process. ((A couple of
tips)) the throttle body has 4 bolts on the left,
and one bolt you
might not be aware of on the backside near the bottum,
*NOTE* when
unbolting the throttle body, notice the nipple on the gasket and
remember
it's position. And, to the best of my knowledge....when bolting the
throttle
body back on, it is easiest to hand tighten the four main bolts not
too
tight and make sure every thing lines up with the gasket holes, and it
makes
it easier to install the rear bottum bolt mentioned above. I have had
difficulty lining up that paticular bolt after bolting the four
main bolts
too tight. GOOD LUCK hope i helped :o)
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Darc,
I think we are seeing this because the oil's
viscosity doesn't go up
until the oil (Castrol Syntec) gets _VERY_ hot.
Like I said, the oil
pressure will get up there if you are driving 70-80 with
the air
conditioning on for a sustained
period.
Regards,
Lynn
wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
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> Team;
>
> The low pressure "may" be
eleviated with a flush to clean out the ole system. My guess is
> it needs
the gunk and cooked oil cleaned out from high temps ......then go with Mobil
1
> 10-30. Back in my muscle car youth (another ole poop- -who here
isn't) I swore by
> Castrol, but I am a firm advocate of Mobil 1 now
and will stay so, unless something
> better comes along. Life is not
static.
>
> Best
>
> Darc
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Henri,
Are you ever in for a project!!! Set aside
an afternoon, yes the whole
afternoon, if this is the first time youhave
swapped the pleg wires. Go to
the Dodge dealership and get the intake
plenum gasket, around $10, and remove
the plenum. There is somewhere
on the web that has the steps and the
diagrams for this. Sorry i
forgot where exactly it was. It may be in the 3S
system, but not
sure. I know it deals with 3S though. If your not up to
surfing
the web goto the nearest Pepboys or the equivelant in your area (not
sure
about Napa) and pick up the 1990 on Foreign or Domestic car manual by
Chiltons and they will give you the steps for just about everything, for the
3S. That is around $22. And pretty good but pretty big
also. I found that
by accident. I am going to buy it because the
service manual through Dodge
is around $40 or so. But that is the only
Servicing guide that i have foound
so far. I think the average time to
do this job on the first time is 2-3 hrs.
good Luck
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-----------snip-----------
|sure
about Napa) and pick up the 1990 on Foreign or Domestic car
manual
by
|Chiltons and they will give you the steps for just about
everything,
for the
|3S. That is around $22. And pretty good but pretty big
also. I
found that
|by accident. I am going to buy it because
the service manual
through Dodge
|is around $40 or so. But that is
the only Servicing guide that i
have foound
|so far. I think the
average time to do this job on the first time
is 2-3 hrs.
|good
Luck
About all the info you're going to get in the Chilton's is how
to
change plugs... They do just fine for lots of other cars, but
not
S/3ks... There have been discussions on this before, and that's
the
consensus from several other owners. Spring for the
Dodge/Mitsu
manual or go for the big bucks for the full set of (2)
manuals--
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order. If
I remember correctly, there's also an explanation and
pictures
somewhere on Eric's website, www.3Si.org . Good luck, and
watch
your knuckles on the back plugs!
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AFAIK, the compression is already high (10.6:1 I guess)
and I wouldn't go higher
than 11:1. But this can only be done by working the
heads down or using a
thinner gasket. In my point of view it gives you only
about 2-5% more power if
the job is done right. But the cost for the job is
pretty high :(
Regards,
Roger
> system, How high can I raise
the compression? Is there a formula that
> can be used to get a
compression ratio without valve problems. Is the
> valve clearance listed
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Another good place to check for manuals is on Ebay. I
snagged both manuals
for $50 total with shipping, in mint condition.
Only hitch was that they
were for a 1993 3000GT, and not Stealth...but thats
not too big a deal. Also
got a beautiful 1993 Dodge Performance book with
nice Stealth pics & info in
it for dirt cheap.
-Mike
'93
Stealth ES
> consensus from several other owners. Spring for the
Dodge/Mitsu
> manual or go for the big bucks for the full set of (2)
manuals--
> $59.00 + $10.47 shipping and tax. Call 1-800-890-4038 to
order. If
> I remember correctly, there's also an explanation and
pictures
> somewhere on Eric's website, www.3Si.org . Good luck, and
watch
> your knuckles on the back plugs! :-)
>
>
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>
>
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I'm having the exact same thing going on with my valves
right now too. If
you figure it out, please let me know.
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I have a concern with the proper oil capacity when having
my oil changed.
My Diamond Star Service manual (98$) from Mitsubishi
sais the proper oil
capacity is 4.9 quarts, however......Every oil
change place I go to sais the
capacity or recomended fill level is
only 4.2 quarts. This concerns me,
seing as how my lash valve
has failed on another engine before, due to
having too much oil in the
vehicle......it was actually overfilled by 2
quarts (not by me), so at this
point, to me....having .7 quarts too much or
not enough oil in
my vehicle concerns me........what's the word???? 4.2 or
4.9?
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I use 5 quarts every time i change it. The level is
fine...
Wayne
At 07:54 AM 5/7/99 , you wrote:
>I have a
concern with the proper oil capacity when having my oil changed.
>My
Diamond Star Service manual (98$) from Mitsubishi sais the proper oil
>capacity is 4.9 quarts, however......Every oil change place I go to sais
the
>capacity or recomended fill level is only 4.2 quarts.
This concerns me,
>seing as how my lash valve has failed on another
engine before, due to
>having too much oil in the vehicle......it was
actually overfilled by 2
>quarts (not by me), so at this point,
to me....having .7 quarts too much or
> not enough oil in my
vehicle concerns me........what's the word???? 4.2 or
>4.9?
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Hey everyone,
Well, after some
tense moments on Monday and Tuesday, I did get my ACT
clutch installed and I
must say, I really like it. The pedal pressure
increased slightly and
you have to give it a little gas when letting 1st
gear out, but it definatly
has a lot of grip. I can't wait for my 500 mile
break in period to be
over so I can really test it. ;) In case you don't
remember my
earlier post about my rivit problem, I'll recap. The dealer
called me
before they put my clutch in and said that there were only 2
rivits holding
in one side of the disk. They thought it was a bad design or
a
defect. I call ACT, and discovered that it was a defect. ACT was
really
nice and overnighted a new one directly to the dealer. On
Tuesday, the
dealer got the new disk and got the install done that day.
I'm thankful
that Wayzata Mitsu discovered the defect before installing the
clutch. And,
I was satisfied with the customer service that ACT
supplied in dealing with
the problem. Wow, a happy ending, huh?
:)
My "news" portion of this e-mail is to let you all know that
my "Minnesota
3/S" group got together last Saturday for a little
cruise around Minnesota.
If you want to read about our outing, go
to:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/5641/rural.html
Thats all
for now,
Curt G
95 R/T TT
and author of Minnesota 3/S
at:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/1044/
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The spec sheets show 4.2 Qt (4.0
L) for the crankcase and 0.5 Qt (0.3 L)
for the filter. This may
be where the oil change places are getting their
numbers from. Be
careful, most oil change places do not replace the crush
ring on the oil
drain plug. They also use off brand filters
(sometimes).
Jeffrey
92
RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>
>At 07:54 AM 5/7/99 ,
you wrote:
>>I have a concern with the proper oil capacity when having
my oil changed.
>>My Diamond Star Service manual (98$) from Mitsubishi
sais the proper oil
>>capacity is 4.9 quarts, however......Every
oil change place I go to sais
the
>>capacity or recomended
fill level is only 4.2 quarts. This concerns me,
>>seing as how
my lash valve has failed on another engine before, due
to
>>having too much oil in the vehicle......it was actually overfilled
by 2
>>quarts (not by me), so at this point, to
me....having .7 quarts too much
or
>> not enough oil in my vehicle
concerns me........what's the word????
4.2
or
>>4.9?
>
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Strange...
My Mitsu Service Manual says (from page
00-47):
4.5qts (Non-Turbo)
4.9qts (Turbo)
Of
course these are the total capacities (including the filter
and the
cooler). I recall seeing somewhere else that the crankcase
capacity was
4.2qts, thus the rest is probably accounted for in the
filter/cooler.
(Most shops tend to latch onto the 4.2 number.)
I found that most places
tend to underfill the oil. As a result, I've
found the best way to know
how much they put in is to bring them 5
quarts of Mobil 1 and simply check
how much is left in the 5th quart.
(I consistently have to pour in extra
before leaving the shop.)
-JD
> The spec sheets show
4.2 Qt (4.0 L) for the crankcase and 0.5 Qt (0.3 L)
> for the
filter. This may be where the oil change places are getting their
>
numbers from. Be careful, most oil change places do not replace the
crush
> ring on the oil drain plug. They also use off brand filters
(sometimes).
>
>
> Jeffrey
> 92 RT/Turbo
>
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Sorry about including the sig on that last post, as well
as the extra
bandwidth wasted by this explanation. ;)
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Subject: Team3S: new digital pressure
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Was just looking through a design magazine and saw a cool
looking pressure
guage. Check out the site
http://www.keyence.com/sensors/ap30.htm#2 I
talked to the company and
the price is $179.00. A little steep but if you
want a fast and
accurate guage it might be worth it.
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> guage. Check out the site
http://www.keyence.com/sensors/ap30.htm#2 I
> talked to the company
and the price is $179.00.
You can have this much cheaper ! Get a 3bar GM
MAP sensor for $49 (0-5V) and a
3-4 digit LED display kit (voltmeter, about
$20) Depending on the voltage the
meter can display you now have to add an
amplifier to change the readout to be
shown in the appropriate scale (cost
around $5) That's it, you have your digital
gauge :)
The biggest
problem is ... where do you mount it :) Also check out
the
"Intellitronix" digital gauges that come already in a 2
1/16" case (should have
a boost gauge soon).
//
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
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I had the same problem and refused to believe that it
could have been
the plugs or wires since my car only has 14K miles on
it, although
it is 3 years old. Well last week I changed my
plugs (NGK's) and
put in some Magnecor wires, and the miss firing is
gone!
--
Jeff Schwartz
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FIPK, Magnecors
R.G. wrote:
>
> > You may be right, but
my car did make a "popping noise" under heavy
> >
acceleration in 5th until I did the change. Later I attributed it to
be
> > a misfire.
>
> Yes, this was under heavy load.
Unfortunately, it's very hard to determine the
> sound if not heard by
myself. I agree with you on the wires and plugs to be
> changed if they
are old or do have a high milage. But it's an investment and for
> some of
us not easy to do by ourselfs. Anyway, if the tubing/hoses are ok the
>
wires plugs are the next step :)
>
> Roger
>
>
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> Roger Gerl, Switzerland
> 93'3000GT
TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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For a longer time I successfully use the Bremsa
crossdrilled/slotted disks
together with Pagid RS-R (orange) pads. About 4
weeks ago I was on a small track
and did my yearly driving brush-up but on
higher speeds than the last times.
Braking was very good and compared to all
of the other cars I had the best
braking distance :)
Unfortunately,
something bad happened to the brakes then as it seemed that I can
hear more
noise when the car is running slowly. Looking at the rotors (disks) I
noticed
some new grooves in them. As I have a set of z-Mevius pads sitting on
the
floor I thought it is a good time to change the pads to find out how
they
work. As I removed the Pagids and looked at the pads surface I was
somewhat
shocked : They had holes in the surface, about 8mm dia and 2-3mm
deep. The dia
is exactly the size of the holes in the rotors and it seems
that the pads could
not withstand the material of the rotors, especially
around the holes. I
immediately called Bremsa and they agreed to send them
back to Pagid for further
investigations.
I remember that I was maybe
not driving easy and long enough to cool the brakes
down after the final,
extra heavy lap on the track. We then parked the cars
after a cool down phase
and the turbo-timer was up to about 38 seconds. The air
was about 13°C or
lower and good conditions to let the car cool down and I
really though it is
enough. But it really seems that the pads had time to bond
to the rotors,
more on the outside than on the inside (due to the size of
the
holes).
Conclusion : I wait for the investigation results by Pagid
and will post them
here. Also, do not only let the engine/turbos cool down
but give the brakes an
extra lap to cool them down.
BTW, I've put the
z-Mevius in and noticed that the pad area is about 5mm smaller
to the outside
of the disks. In my opinion, this is too small, even smaller than
the stock
pads ! The Pagids where about 1/2mm too large so they "hung" a
little
over the disks edge. The Mevius work good so
far.
Later,
Roger
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Jim Berry responded to
>
----
> David Margrave"s
>
> >
> >I tend
to lean in favor of organizing a class action lawsuit which I think would be
more persuasive
> than >sending the CEO a "Dear Sir, ... signed,
Concerned Customer" letter. I was very close to
> inquiring
with a >couple law firms, but stopped to find out what progress the previous
legal saber
> rattling on the 3000gt.com >web board had went.
Answer: nowhere yet.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
with
the following
> We need to initiate more than one solution !! A class
action lawsuit, if feasible
> will take years to resolve. I for one will
need parts in the next 6 months. My
> second gear synchro is in its final
stages of life.
> Appearently Turboharry is working on something back east
but I don't have
> any solid information. I think their working on
developing a 6 speed parts
> supplier.
> As for our European
contingent I know there's a lot of racing fabrication going
> on in
Europe. Any chance of developing a supplier from that group.
> Other items
like bearings are probably easier, I doubt getrag manufactures
> its own
bearings. The bearings should be stamped with mfg. codes which
>
might allow us to track down a supplier. For example my Yamaha V-Max
>
needed a front fork bearing --- Yamaha wanted $55 --- I got the same
part
> from a bearing supplier for $18
>
>
All of these
ideas are good, and were I there instead of here, I believe I would
(shoulda coulda) have
the pertinent information of this thread (Paul?) stored
for posterity for the above reasons. A group
solution is possible and likely
with the brilliant fabricator, who will in all likelihood be someone
who
someone here knows, or who is their brother in law, boss, etc. However,
has anyone considered contacting
60 minutes, or Nader? Both are saber
rattlers, and love to wail on big organizations like this one;
organizations
who act impervious and are not about to stoop to the petty needs of their
customer
regardless of their clear liability. The squeaky wheel gets the
grease, and when it comes to David and
Goliath, the populace sees few
cheering for the giant.
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now that the clutch is done, I can't get the darn
thing back in! any advice here?
"Barry E. King"
wrote:
> These things can be a PITA. They have a spring clip of
some sort. Prying
> by itself won't usually cut it. What you
need to try and do is get a big
> wedged pry bar in there and whack it
pretty hard with a bit of pressure on
> the pry bar to push the shaft
outwards. I have seen people with "the knack"
> do it with
one simple blow. The percussion seems to pop the snap ring and
>
with the ouutward pressure, off it comes. I was not able to pry mine
off.
> Popping it with a blow or two did it. The half shafts gave me
the most
> trouble. I doubt I could pull it off twice in a
row. On one side I simply
> pulled it off the knuckle since the
bnoot was already in need of
> replacement. Even though I had one
side off I simply could not get the
> other one to budge.
*shrug*
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Barry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > I'm doing
a clutch replacement and can't get the RH drive shaft out of
> > the
transmission. The shop manual calls for prying against the housing
>
> to remove the shaft rather than trying to pull it out, but I can't
get
> > it to budge more the the tiny amount of in/out play the shaft
has. It
> > seems like there's a clip holding it in, but nowhere
does it specify any
> > special steps to remove a clip. Has
anyone been through this before?
> >
> > Dave
> > '91
RT TT
>
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Subject: Team3S: For Sale - Blitz
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I have a Blitz Turbo Timer for
sale. It has never been used and is still in
the box. This is the
basic model. It counts down the time that you preset.
1/4 din size,
gray color.
I also have a VR-4/TT specific wiring harness to make
installation a breeze.
I'll let it go for $50 w/o harness, or $70 with
harness.
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Just another newbie reminder, if you
have any of the service manuals
already, you can purchase the manuals on
CD-ROM and use them instead of
mucking up your real paper manuals. Some of
the manuals on the CD are out of
print and quite hard to find. There are
other advantages to having them on
CD too!
The www site has been
totally redone with a separate section for 3/S owners
and DSM owners. The
layout is virtually identical, and MUCH easier to
navigate. Tell me what you
all think!. For those of you that do have the CD
manual's, please send some
feedback my way to see how I can improve it
(since it's a CD-R, I can
implement changes very easily).
If you need more info, check out the www
site in my tag-line. Also, any A/T
3/S member is welcome to join the other
site I now am in charge of, "Club
DSM A/T
(automatic)".
About the A/T Vr-4's, I was told there was no such
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Yesterday I did an oil flush, and switched to mobil one
synthetic oil.
My oil pressure has actually gotten a little worse off since
then, the
needle use to go half way up while the engine warmed up and
now it barely
makes it to the first big mark during startup. Another
thing......after
doing the flush and change, I drove my car from
Chattanooga, Tn to Nashville,
Tn (137 miles) and along the way I pulled over
and I had Steam coming out
from behind my firewall, and the engine seemed
extremely hot back there near
the rear turbo around the
firewall. My heat sheild that is connected to the
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I did the flush and change....my results haven't seemed to be so
impressive................92 All Stock Vr-4
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I was actually stupid enough to take my car into
another Mitsubishi
dealership to have general diagnostics ran......
They came up with......my
car is running 13 inches of vacuum and they
say it is supposed to be
running around 18 inches of vacuum.
Also and EGR flow code is on, and the
temp. sensor is reading 10 degrees
F. They said this could be causing my
turbo problem......and it
could be due to improper valve timing or a vacuum
leak. The problem
is......They don't know how to check the valve
timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So
my car is sitting and a "Mater Tech" ((supposively))
Is having to
wait until monday to call Mitsubishi to see what to do!!!!!!
Any ideas or opinions?? I'm going to be looking for a vacuum
leak.....but if
anyone has any ideas on where to start or anything
....please let me know...
Any word on how to check the valve
timing?? Oh yeah....my timing belt
checked out in
time........and my ignition timing is on.....but the tech said
just
because the timing belt lines match up and show it's in time.....it
doesn't
mean the cams are in time........Mitsubishi has never shown me they
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> needle use to go half way up while the engine warmed
up and now it barely
> makes it to the first big mark during
startup.
Of course this depends on the viscosity of the oil you used.
This sounds like
0W-40 to me.
> from behind my firewall, and the
engine seemed extremely hot back there near
> the rear turbo around
the firewall. My heat sheild that is connected to the
> big black
intake pipe is warped.
What heat shield ? There is no heat shield
attached to any intake pipe ! The
only shields are around the front turbo and
one attached to the rear IC pipe
comming from the turbo. As it is black too I
think you are referring to this.
I usually tend to sound negative and
always see bad things behind such messages.
But here's my look into the the
things:
The engine flush (if done correctly) frees up some old/snake oil
deposits and
get everything (dirt, metal, coins <g>...) into the oil
filter. You did not tell
us but I think you changed the oil-filter too (at
least I hope so). A drawback
from an engine flush (if not done well) could be
that some of this deposit
cloggs up the oil lines to/from the turbos. A
result would be that this stuff in
the line is getting damn hot and cannot be
cooled as the fresh oil cannot get to
the turbo shaft to cool it. The dirt
finally will getting very hot together with
the turbo itselfs.... and burns
the turbo seals. This will cause a somewhat
darker steam (brunt oil) compared
to white/blue steam from boiled coolant. The
later is also possible as the
coolant that runs through the turbos will also get
very hot and due to the
broken seals will boil. As you say that the heat shield
behind the manifold
got bent I can only suppose that the rear turbo is finally
gone :(( I just
hope that the given signs will finally not confirm my
conclusion
!
Have you noticed the water temperature raised a little
too ?
Good luck,
Roger
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> car is running 13 inches of vacuum and they say
it is supposed to be
> running around 18 inches of vacuum.
Also and EGR flow code is on, and the
> temp. sensor is reading 10 degrees
F.
The EGR code could be caused by the EGR valve that got toasted by the
excessive
heat that came from outside the path. If the temperature readout is
totally off
(damaged temp sensor in the MAS) for sure the ECU selects a
different fuel map
and this could explain the behaviour in the past ! First
let them totally check
the MAS and the connector/wires to it. This can be
done by removing the plug and
using a voltmeter and a hairdryer. The
procedure is fully explained in the
workshop manual. If this problem is
solved (hopefully only bad contacts) then go
to the next step in getting your
car back onto the road.
> They don't know how to check the valve
timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wrong dealer !
> Is having to wait until
monday to call Mitsubishi to see what to do!!!!!!
> Any ideas
or opinions?? I'm going to be looking for a vacuum leak.
As I
already mentioned, if the ECU is reading a totally off temperature, it
will
never selects the appropriate fuel table. Therefore the vaccum could
be
different too as the ECU controls the idle stepper motor. If it is more
open the
vacuum is closer to 0 than with a correct behaviour.
> Any
word on how to check the valve timing?? Oh yeah....my timing
belt
> checked out in time........and my ignition timing is on.....but the
tech said
> just because the timing belt lines match up and show
it's in time.....it
> doesn't mean the cams are in time........Mitsubishi
has never shown me they
> know how to work on their cars.
So he
supposes then that the cam gears are mounted off. AFAIK, this is not
possible
due to the bolts, but I'm not 100% sure.
Good luck
Nr.2
Roger
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> now that the clutch is done, I can't get the darn
thing back in!
> any advice here?
Line it up straight, compress the
joints by pushing on the outer end and
whack the end of the shaft with a
rubber mallet. Should pop right in... If
you don't have a mallet,
a slightly less sophisticated approach is to just
line it up and give the
whole assembly a good hard shove and it should pop
in after a few
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I think I would take the car (unless it's under warranty
and that's the
only Mitsu dealer around) to another mechanic...someone that
knows what
they're doing, if only for a second opinion.
Bill
Wagner
MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
>
> I was actually
stupid enough to take my car into another Mitsubishi
> dealership
to have general diagnostics ran...... They came up with......my
>
car is running 13 inches of vacuum and they say it is supposed to
be
> running around 18 inches of vacuum. Also and EGR flow code is
on, and the
> temp. sensor is reading 10 degrees F. They said
this could be causing my
> turbo problem......and it could be due to
improper valve timing or a vacuum
> leak. The problem is......They
don't know how to check the valve
> timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So my car
is sitting and a "Mater Tech" ((supposively))
> Is having to
wait until monday to call Mitsubishi to see what to do!!!!!!
>
Any ideas or opinions?? I'm going to be looking for a vacuum leak.....but
if
> anyone has any ideas on where to start or anything ....please let me
know...
> Any word on how to check the valve timing?? Oh
yeah....my timing belt
> checked out in time........and my ignition timing
is on.....but the tech said
> just because the timing belt lines
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> doesn't mean the cams are in
time........Mitsubishi has never shown me they
> know how to work on their
cars.
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Group;
For those of you interested in the prior
scoop thread, I finally received
Todd's http's for you, so you can go there
and have a "look see" yourselves.
> Mirror sites at
>
http://www.brightok.net/~tds
> http://www.qsl.net/n5mya
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>
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>
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> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: cooling question
>
> >Hi
Henri;
> >
> >As Chris noted, Bozz makes (pricey)
extraction scoops (heat extraction
> isn't a bad
> >idea), and at
least one member, Todd Shelton, has forward facing ram type
> scoops
where
> >these shock tower "blisters" bolt on. Visit his
homepage (don't have it
> handy)...are you
> >out here
Todd?
> >
> >Best
> >
>
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Very correct again Jack,
The hub assembly is built
very strong on our cars.. Metal does fatigue
though. Put 30% more
braking force on a front hub, along with race tires..
You get way out of the
"design" spec of the front end. I agree that the
front
end is very strong, but this should not be overlooked in this
dangerous
situation.
The rotors are breaking in a clean ring (on the 94+
rotors) As you know the
hub and swept area of the rotor is separated by
a drilled area. The rotor
is separating there.
Power slots have
done this, along with KVR. I suspect defective castings on
the rotors,
however we will let the "experts" determine that.
>
Brad
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I don't think flex of bearings/hub assy is large
contributor here.
I have never heard of such a thing being any significant
factor,
but that doesn't mean much. However--
If true, why does
no other brand of rotor do this?
Do the rotors come off as a solid ring, or
are they fractured
THROUGH one of those "slots" or grooves in the
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I removed my center
gauge pod this weekend. Surprisingly, it only
took about two hours. I
was able to do this by removing the passenger
airbag to get access to the
mounting screws on the back of the pod. You
have to have a right angle
ratcheting phillips screw driver through. If
you do not have a
passenger airbag, I don't think is possible to get the
gauge pod out without
removing the dash. One thing that I cannot
emphasize enough, if you do
remove the airbag, YOU MUST DISCONNECT THE
BATTERY AND LET IT SIT FOR AT
LEAST A MINUTE BEFORE TOUCHING THE AIRBAG
OR ITS' CONNECTIONS. playing
with the airbag is like trying to
disassemble a loaded gun which is
pointed right at your head. If that
thing goes off while you are
messing with the dash, death is very
possible.
So
now that I have the pod out, the question is what type of gauges
do I put
back in. I would like to install a dual oil pressure/temp
gauge, an
engine temp gauge that has actual numbers and a real boost
gauge. The
boost gauge is easy, since I just need to relocate the one
from the gauge
pod. Now onto the others:
Oil pressure and engine
temperature: If I purchase an aftermarket
electrical gauge, can I just
tap into the existing wires? I think both
gauges are only ohm meters,
so as long as they are calibrated the same I
should be OK. However, how
do I determine this without buying the gauge
and testing it? Do all
gauges use standard values?
Oil Temp: Since this is not something
the ECU monitors, I would have to
install a temp sensor. Anyone ever
done this? And if so, do you have
to drill into the block? I
would prefer an electrical vs. mechanical
gauge. Hopefully one that is
both an oil temp and press. gauge.
Thanks,
Mike C.
0018
'95
Stealth RT TT
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After a month of being up on stands, waiting for
parts, waiting for
tools, mangling the ball joint boots, etc. my clutch is
finally done!
Now I'm a seasoned veteran, and I'd like to give thanks to
everyone who
helped out. My only observations after ~30 miles on the
new clutch are
the pedal effort seems to be less than before, engagement
feels
different, and I can notice a slight clutch odor after parking the
car.
No slippage like before when I stomp on it in 4th or 5th. I assume
the
smell is not abnormal as the clutch gets broken in. I'm leaving
some
cardboard under it tonight, because I sure as hell want to know
if
anything is leaking!
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Does anyone know where to get the Gtech Pro
cheap?
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Dave,
How long was your car on
jack stands???? Were you
really able to do the clutch using only jack
stands???
Just curious since the last time I had to replace a
fog lamp
bulb in my brother's 92 VR-4 it sat on ramps
overnite. not a fun job
indeed.
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|Does anyone know where to get the Gtech Pro
cheap?
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|Thanks,
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I think someone mentioned recently
that J.C. Whitney is now carrying
them at a
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Can someone explain a little on the significance of
gapping the
plugs at a smaller gap? What are the pros and cons to
changing
the factory setting (.044) to like .035.
I just put in
new NGK plugs and Magnecor wires. The plugs came
from Mitsubishi
gapped at around .044. I have a Borla cat back
exhaust and a K&N
FIPK. I gapped the plugs at .040. Am I doing
any harm or
good?
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Jeff;
Smaller gaps are used at
higher boost pressure where there is a tendency for
the high boost to
literally blow the spark out before combustion can occur.
This is the
stumbling at high RPM's that many people complain about when
adding a boost
controller and turning up the boost. With the modifications
you have,
the stock plug gap is what you need.
Jeffrey
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www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>Can someone explain a little
on the significance of gapping the
>plugs at a smaller gap? What are
the pros and cons to changing
>the factory setting (.044) to like
.035.
> I just put in new NGK plugs and Magnecor wires. The
plugs came
>from Mitsubishi gapped at around .044. I have a Borla
cat back
>exhaust and a K&N FIPK. I gapped the plugs at
.040. Am I doing
>any harm or good?
>
Thanks,
> Jeff
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Jeff,
This highly depends on what boost you are
running on. If you plan to add a boost
controller I recommend to decrease the
gap down to 0.034" as this will prevent
misfires. Usually one should
expect a worser mileage with a smaller gap but I
never noticed any difference
due to this.
The cat-back and filter do not play any rule here.
//
Roger
> Can someone explain a little on the significance of gapping
the
> plugs at a smaller gap? What are the pros and cons to
changing
> the factory setting (.044) to like
.035.
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Hey Mike,
> Oil pressure and engine
temperature: If I purchase an aftermarket
> electrical gauge, can I
just tap into the existing wires?
99% no. This because the sweep is
different as well the electrical resistance.
> I think both gauges are
only ohm meters
They are more volt-meters as the current that flows
through the small wire in
the instrument cause a small magnetic field that
finally moves the dial.
Depending on the spiral wire and the magnetic field
the behaviour can be totally
different. I would measure the voltage on the
stock gauge itselfs to determine
what range it runs on. Then remove it and
apply the same small voltage to the
gauge with the help of an adjustable
power supply. Check the voltage at the
different levels shown by the dial and
watch for a linearity. With this you can
now determine what kind of gauge you
need.
> Do all gauges use standard values?
No, this depends
always on the type of sender they use.
> Oil Temp: Since this is
not something the ECU monitors, I would have to
> install a temp
sensor. Anyone ever done this? And if so, do you have
> to
drill into the block? I would prefer an electrical vs. mechanical
>
gauge. Hopefully one that is both an oil temp and press.
gauge.
Well, you can use an oil-stick-temp sensor. You remember the dumb
rubber oil
temp sensor on the dyno ? There is a better, hard type available
that can be
attached easily. It was about DM 29.90 in Germany. This one works
good with the
most temp gauges that use the same type of thermocouple (I
guess k-type, but
have to recheck).
The Autometer gauge I do have came
with a sensor and some bolt adapters. I
expect to mount it instead of the oil
drain plug in the pan. But I'm not sure if
this is the best idea as the oil
temp may be lower as around the heads. This is
why I measure the heads
temperature as well.
All the
best,
Roger
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Can you please tell us how you took the air bag and
everything apart. I
would really appreciate it.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Team3S: Center Guage Pod
I removed
my center gauge pod this weekend.
Surprisingly, it only
took about two
hours. I was able to do this by removing the
passenger
airbag to get
access to the mounting screws on the back of
the pod. You
have to
have a right angle ratcheting phillips screw driver
through. If
you
do not have a passenger airbag, I don't think is
possible to get the
gauge
pod out without removing the dash. One thing that I
cannot
emphasize
enough, if you do remove the airbag, YOU MUST
DISCONNECT THE
BATTERY AND
LET IT SIT FOR AT LEAST A MINUTE BEFORE TOUCHING
THE AIRBAG
OR ITS'
CONNECTIONS. playing with the airbag is like trying
to
disassemble a
loaded gun which is pointed right at your
head. If that
thing
goes off while you are messing with the dash, death
is
very
possible.
So now that I have the pod
out, the question is what
type of gauges
do I put back in. I would
like to install a dual oil
pressure/temp
gauge, an engine temp gauge that
has actual numbers and a
real boost
gauge. The boost gauge is easy,
since I just need to
relocate the one
from the gauge pod. Now onto
the others:
Oil pressure and engine temperature: If I purchase
an
aftermarket
electrical gauge, can I just tap into the existing
wires? I
think both
gauges are only ohm meters, so as long as they
are
calibrated the same I
should be OK. However, how do I determine
this without
buying the gauge
and testing it? Do all gauges use
standard values?
Oil Temp: Since this is not something the ECU
monitors, I
would have to
install a temp sensor. Anyone ever done
this? And if so,
do you have
to drill into the block? I would
prefer an electrical vs.
mechanical
gauge. Hopefully one that is
both an oil temp and press.
gauge.
Thanks,
Mike
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Rock bottom price must
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it was off its wheels for a month due to various
delays getting parts and tools, going
out of town for a week at a stretch,
etc. Yeah, I did it with a 3-ton floor jack,
transmission jack rented
from the local rental place, and engine hoist borrowed from a
friend of a
friend. Getting the transmission out from under the car once I had
it
lowered out was a little tricky. I used the engine hoist to lift it
off the jack, then
got the jack out of the way, and put a couple dozen wooden
dowels underneath a piece of
plywood, and lowered the transmission onto the
plywood. Then I was able to slide it
out from under the car pretty
easily, with plenty of clearance. I call the wooden
dowel and plywood
trick the "ancient egyptian" technique.
Frank Chen
wrote:
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> How long was your car on jack
stands???? Were you
> really able to do the clutch using only jack
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As I said.....I did an oil flush.... and switched to mobil
1 10w30. that
same night (two nights ago) I drove from Chattanooga,
Tn to Nashville, Tn
(apprx. 137 miles) and I had steam which smelled
like a hot engine or coolant
was coming from the firewall area seemingly
underneath the rear turbo and EGR
pip area. Since then ......I have
inspected the turbine wheel in the turbo
(while in the vehicle) and it
was clean.....and seemed to be in healthy
condition. I also checked
all my vacuum lines for pinholes, cuts etc... My
front turbo seems to
have a LITTLE (not REAL bad) carbon or oil build up on
the inner wall of the
housing. I replaced my fuel filter, and fuel pressure
regulator. The car heated up......and the steam is back......not to
the same
degree...but, none the less, still there. My oil pressure is
still low as
well (obviously). My question is....what do I do next???
Another oil flush?
Two more oil flushes? What do I do??
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Mike,
brave man! Prepare your significant other for some
alone time, because
replacing the gauges will take you a while. While
you were able to remove
the center gauge pod assembly without removing the
dash, you will NOT be
able to install the new gauges without removing the
dash. This btw is not
as bad as it may seem. A repair handbook is
essential to perform this
though.
> So now that I have the pod out,
the question is what type of gauges
>do I put back in. I would like
to install a dual oil pressure/temp
>gauge, an engine temp gauge that has
actual numbers and a real boost
>gauge. The boost gauge is easy,
since I just need to relocate the one
>from the gauge pod.
If you
plan to mount your gauges behind the slanted stock lenses I recommend
that
you get 52mm gauges. I found that Autometer was the only brand that
had
all the gauges I wanted in this size. I have not seen a dual gauge
for
oil temp/pressure.
>Oil pressure and engine temperature:
If I purchase an aftermarket
>electrical gauge, can I just tap into the
existing wires? I think both
>gauges are only ohm meters, so as long
as they are calibrated the same I
>should be OK. However, how do I
determine this without buying the gauge
>and testing it? Do all
gauges use standard values?
The ECU does not use oil pressure, so you can
discard the stock sender and
mount your aftermarket sender unit in this
hole. As for the water temp
probe, under the coil pack there are two
senders for water temp. One is for
relaying information to the ECU and
the other one is for the stock gauge.
But there is also a third hole which is
capped from the factory. This you
can use for the water temp
probe.
>Oil Temp: Since this is not something the ECU monitors,
I would have to
>install a temp sensor. Anyone ever done this?
And if so, do you have
>to drill into the block? I would prefer an
electrical vs. mechanical
>gauge. Hopefully one that is both an oil
temp and press. gauge.
Find out where the manufacturer suggest
installing this probe. Depending on
the requirements for installing the
oil temp sender you may be able to
install this one in the same location by
using a T.
So how the heck do you install these gauges under the
dash? This is how I
went about it. The stock gauges are all
contained in one assembly. I
discarded this, but retained the lenses
(one piece) and the plate that holds
the lens to the stock gauge
assembly. Using a dremmel I carefully removed
the
“half-moons” that cover up the needle base from this mounting
plate. I
then fabricated a mounting bracket for the Autometer gauges
out of
high-grade 3/8” plywood. After cutting this to size, I
painted the front of
it flat black and mounted the stock lens assembly to the
front of it. I was
able to install my new assembly into the stock
installation points using the
stock installation brackets.
Attached is
a picture of the results. The gauges are Autometer 2 1/16"
Phantom
series: 0-100 psi electrical fuel pressure gauge, 0-100 psi
mechanical oil
pressure gauge and 120-240F mechanical water temp gauge. I
choose to
mount my boost gauge on the A-pillar.
Good luck! E-mail if you have
any further questions.
Oskar,
'95 R/T TT
K&N FIPK, Magnecor
wires, NGK plugs, Apex-i Super AVC-R, RS*R springs,
Stillen cross-drilled
rotors, metal matrix pads, Razo pedals, Buschur short
shifter, NR white gauge
faces, Autometer boost, oil pressure, water temp,
fuel pressure
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Hmmm... I assume you followed the flush instructions to
the T and that should have done
the trick. Shoulda! That shoulda included
changing the filter BTW.
The gauge may or may not be sending accurate
information. It's suspect until proven
otherwise. Was it always on the low
side or did it develop low readings only recently?
Of particular concern
is the problem with this steam. Have you determined the exit point
of it yet?
That is, where is it coming/venting from? It sounds like a cooling
system
leak by the description and smell you relate. That being the possible
case, it is
unlikely that it's related to the gauge, and that you have two
separate problems. That's
unlikely, but not impossible. Things could be worse
though: trouble usually comes in
threes! Your head gaskets are okay I
hope!
First find the source of the steam as your top priority, and
then immediately get your
oil pressure checked to insure that it isn't a
faulty gauge...or have both done at a
reputable place. Sometimes it's worth
biting the bullet if you have a reputable person
sort it out and it takes out
the anxiety. However, if approaching it yourself, and if
the gauge is
accurate, and if you performed the flush as directions indicate, then the
oil
pump is the next item to check as being suspect. Don't drive it hard until
you
determine what the oil problem is or isn't and don't drive at all if you
loose pressure
entirely. Sorry but that's about all I can offer...maybe
someone else has an observation
that I am missing which is self
evident....forest for the trees!
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My mechanic wants to put AGIP oil in
my Getrag transmission as it is currently
having a new output shaft
installed (I saw it this morning. We got the new
shaft from MD Auto.
The synchros looked fine). This is the 2nd recommendation
that I got for
AGIP. The other place that recommended it was from an exotic
shop (Porsche).
I have Redline MT90 right now (which we saved in a bottle).
I wouldn't
mind trying AGIP. Is there any reason why I shouldn't?
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> that I got for AGIP. The other place that recommended
it was from an exotic
> shop (Porsche). I have Redline MT90 right now
(which we saved in a bottle).
Well, depending on how long it was in the
tranny I'd reuse it or get with new
Redline. I'd not go for the Agip stuff.
Redline is well proven !
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I located the steam source.....It is coming from the
exhaust !!! I'm having
trouble locating the section and part name
but.....there is a steel braided
looking section that seems to have a little
flexibility in it. The steam
seems to be seeping through the braids or
something to that nature. My
intake plenum.....and backside of
the engine seem extremely hot, but my temp
guage in the car
reads normal (notch under half way). I changed my oil
again
today.....and went back to Castrol Syntec 10w 30. My oil pressure went
back up to were it use to be.....but still is lower than normal. I
have had
gasoline drip out of my exhaust in the past. Assuming my
exhaust may be
stopped up or clogged.....do you guys think this would cause
my out take to
over heat....and the heat and exhaust back up and over work
itself.....causing the rear end of the engine area to heat up and seem so
hot????? Another thing.....would disconnecting my exhaust and running
the
car to see if it runs better be an ideal thing to do to check the
exhaust for
clogging?? Thanks
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MitsuVR41 (I keep wondering if you have a
name)...
I believe you're referring to the flex section in the downpipe
(it's just in
front of the main cat). While I've never had this happen to me,
a Corvette
owner here at work was telling about his main cat being so clogged
that the
car wouldn't run. Soooo, it sounds like you're on the right track,
it could
be that you have a clogged main cat which is causing significant
back
pressure on the engine. The quickest way to check is to separate the
front
half of the exhaust (at the main cat) and take a look. Better yet, run
it
(in the garage) with the exhaust disconnected from the precats and see
if
the symptoms disappear. Best would be to pull that stock assembly
and
replace it with an ATR (or similar) downpipe and high flow
cat.
Looking forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/blown
turbo seal mod)
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I located the steam source.....It is coming from the exhaust
!!! I'm having
trouble locating the section and part name
but.....there is a steel braided
looking section that seems to have a little
flexibility in it. The steam
seems to be seeping through the braids or
something to that nature. My
intake plenum.....and backside of
the engine seem extremely hot, but my
temp
guage in the car
reads normal (notch under half way). I changed my oil
again
today.....and went back to Castrol Syntec 10w 30. My oil pressure
went
back up to were it use to be.....but still is lower than normal. I
have had
gasoline drip out of my exhaust in the past. Assuming my
exhaust may be
stopped up or clogged.....do you guys think this would cause
my out take to
over heat....and the heat and exhaust back up and over work
itself.....causing the rear end of the engine area to heat up and seem so
hot????? Another thing.....would disconnecting my exhaust and running
the
car to see if it runs better be an ideal thing to do to check the
exhaust
for
clogging?? Thanks
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Along the line of Catalitic
converters/ How hard would it be to replace the
precats with a piece of
straight pipe? Would I get a quicker turbo spool,
or would this just
cause problems? I did this on my truck and the quicker
spool was
amazing. Needed a boost controller to keep the spikes down, but
it was
a dramatic increase in power. Has anyone done this? Not
concerned
with emission laws as we don't have any.
Thanks in
advance,
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> Soooo, it sounds
like you're on the right track, it could
> be that you have a clogged main
cat which is causing significant back
> pressure on the engine. The
quickest way to check is to separate the front
> half of the exhaust (at
the main cat) and take a look. Better yet, run it
> (in the garage) with
the exhaust disconnected from the precats and see if
> the symptoms
disappear. Best would be to pull that stock assembly and
> replace it with
an ATR (or similar) downpipe and high flow cat.
>
> Looking
forward...Chris
>
> 1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/blown turbo seal
mod)
>
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>Along the line of Catalitic converters/ How hard
would it be to replace the
>precats with a piece of straight pipe?
If we are going to get into this topic, I have a few
questions:
1. Why do those furshlugginer downpipes cost so dang much?
It's just a
piece of SS pipe with a flange and no cats, right? Is this yet
another
ripoff?
2. Can we take all the cats off and then get
through an inspection later?
Is it wise to keep the old system and stick it
back on when necessary? (If
it's anything like rotors, I should be able to
change it back in 10
minutes). Will a VR4 pass the 49 states emissions with
just one main cat?
We don't have emission inspections in Iowa yet, but
Murphy's Law says that
the very second I take down my exhaust, IDOT will
start inspecting.
3. How much trouble is it to take down the entire
exhaust system? Does
anyone sell a cat-less replacement?
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I own a 1993 Dodge Stealth ES, and today
I was giving it a very thorough
cleaning for the first time since I bought
it, and I came across a couple of
things that I had questions
about.
1). Why does the rear seat bottom release and come up?
Is there something
under there, or is there room for
storage?
2). I took out the spare tire to clean up some pine
needles that had fallen
into the well, and I found two loose wires behind
the rear seats. They were
both female ends, and one looked like a
computer keyboard plug. Anyone know
what these are?
3).
Tire pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires say
44 psi .. What should I go with?
4). How do I change the
rear cargo area's light bulb?
5). The driver's side seat belt has
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Any
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> 1. Why do those furshlugginer downpipes cost so dang
much? It's just a
> piece of SS pipe with a flange and no cats, right? Is
this yet another
> ripoff?
Do not mix downpipe and pre-cat
replacements ! A dp usually starts after the
precats and end at the main cat.
Stainless steel, the right bends/welds and the
proper design makes them
expensive as some handwork must be done. There are dp
available that removes
the front pre-cat with a normal pipe. The rear precat
cannot be replaced due
to the the complicated flange to the turbo and the little
space
available.
> 2. Can we take all the cats off and then get through an
inspection later?
This depends on the State / Country you're
in.
> Is it wise to keep the old system and stick it back on when
necessary?
In my country, yes :( Guess what I have to do next weekend
....
> 3. How much trouble is it to take down the entire exhaust
system? Does
> anyone sell a cat-less replacement?
The only trouble
is due to the weight of the stock system and the available room
with the car
on jacks. No full free exhaust available, even the Trust system
leaves the
rear pre-cat untouched. I run the car with and without the main cat
(ATR high
flow cat) and never recognized any power loss.
Gutting the precats will
help to free up the restriction of the exhaust much
more than any cat-back
system. There are cars with stock exhaust dynoed around
550hp in Europe (one
crashed in France).
// Roger
-----------------------
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Gerl, Switzerland
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Chris is very right about the clogged cat and I'd
definitely check it out. But I
also know of broken flex sections that got
damaged and leaked. Of course this is
an exhaust leak and is very
"smellable" inside the car as well as the heat will
come up the
engine when not driving.
> looking section that seems to have a
little flexibility in it.
The flex sections should isolate the engine
vibrations from the exhaust as well
as reducing stress to the turbo
mountings.
> The steam seems to be seeping through the braids or
something to that nature.
Definitely broken flex section.
> My
intake plenum.....and backside of the engine seem extremely hot, but
my
> temp guage in the car reads normal (notch under half
way).
Therefore the heat is generated externally the engine.
>
I changed my oil again today.....and went back to Castrol Syntec 10w 30.
My
> oil pressure went back up to were it use to be.....but still is lower
than
> normal.
Not a big problem so far.
> I have had
gasoline drip out of my exhaust in the past. Assuming my
> exhaust
may be stopped up or clogged.....
Right assumption. Also have the O2
sensor checked as they (or only one) may be
defective and gives a wrong
voltage to the ECU causing it to run over-rich. This
can cause running gas
into the exhaust where it gets ignited. But this should be
very
noticeable.
> Another thing.....would disconnecting my exhaust and
running the
> car to see if it runs better be an ideal thing to do to
check the exhaust for
> clogging??
Well, you can't check the
pre-cats with this method. I'd remove the main cat and
check it out for any
clogging. You can also get the front pre-cat for this
purpose.
Good
luck,
Roger
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Rich & Gabriel...
This has been discussed
before, but I don't know that anyone has summarized
the thread. I'll give it
a shot, anyone else feel free to jump in. Let me
preface all this by saying
that any removal of cats is intended for off road
use only.
1. How
hard would it be to replace the precats with a piece of straight
pipe?
My answer...not too difficult, given that you have the ability to form
the
bends, and weld the flanges. There have been a number of custom
downpipes
manufactured. Most, if not all, replace the front precat and main
cat, while
leaving the rear intact. This is because the angles and flanging
are quite
awkward. It's important (from the flow perspective) to have mandrel
bends.
Remember, the last I heard, the fine for a shop removing a cat is
$10K.
Soooo, there's a limit to how many muffler shops are willing to do this
work
if they don't know you well.
2. Why do those furshlugginer
downpipes cost so dang much? It's just a piece
of SS pipe with a flange and
no cats, right? Is this yet another rip-off?
My answer...to get a good
fit, with no leaks, and no interference is not a
simple task. Aside from
materials ($150?), there's labor at $65 an hour
(unless you have all the
equipment at home). Again, it's not just straight
pipe with angles, but
mandrel bends. It quickly becomes a $300+ venture, at
which point you're over
half way to buying one. There has been some
listmembers who've tried to get
precat replacements from SS and found shops
that want $300 just to design and
produce one set of those.
3. Can we take all the cats off and then get
through an inspection later? Is
it wise to keep the old system and stick it
back on when necessary?
My answer...I don't know of a state where you
could pass emissions w/o any
of the cats. This is why ATR has had a lot of
success with their test
pipe/high flow cat combination. You can swap out one
for the other with four
bolts (10 minutes if you fit under your car better
than I fit under mine). I
think most people have kept their stock downpipe
and cat...just in case. The
catback system can be recycled as it does not
affect emissions.
4. Will a VR4 pass the 49 states emissions with just
one main cat?
My answer...consensus seems to be that a main cat only will
pass emissions
if the car is completely warmed up. This has been tested
in a number of
states, but I don't know about all forty-nine. A number
of list members have
posted a technique for heating up the car, then swapping
the main cat. If
you've had a custom downpipe made that replaces the cats,
you can still heat
the car up, then swap back to the front half of the
system. My test is
coming up in three months.
5. How much trouble is
it to take down the entire exhaust system?
My answer...it's a matter of
access. If you have a hoist and can stand under
the car, you can probably
drop the whole system in a half hour. If you're
working on your back with six
inches of clearance, it might take two hours.
Functionally, it's only three
or four hangers and some bolts. Of course mine
were rusted solid, adding some
more time and swearing.
6. Does anyone sell a cat-less
replacement?
ATR and Alamo both sell downpipes with a test pipe. No one
I've heard of
(and I researched this question for quite a while two years
ago) has a 3SI
downpipe that replaces both precats. Numerous manufacturing
challenges with
the rear precat. Most listmembers have taken the time (and
necessary
precautions) to gut their precats. It leaves the O2 sensor in
place, but
reduces back pressure.
I hope this helps. There was a
excellent post on gutting the precats last
year. It should be in the
archives, or I can dig it out of my folders if
someone e-mails me
privately.
Looking forward...Chris
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> 1). Why does the rear seat bottom release and
come up? Is there something
> under there, or is there room for
storage?
It just makes wiring an additional
amplifier/CD-Changer/MD-Changer and cleaning
easier.
> 2). I
took out the spare tire to clean up some pine needles that had fallen
>
into the well, and I found two loose wires behind the rear seats. They
were
> both female ends, and one looked like a computer keyboard
plug. Anyone know
> what these are?
Connections for the
factory CD-Changer
> 3). Tire pressure. The car door says
32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires say
> 44 psi .. What should I go
with?
44psi
> 4). How do I change the rear cargo area's
light bulb?
The one on the pass side ?? It just popped out with a little
hlp of a
screwdriver wrapped in a towel. The bulp can the be changed from
behind the
glass.
> 5). The driver's side seat belt has
trouble retracting. Is there a way to
> make it work
better?
Remove the driver side of the rear wall. You'll then find out
that this is much
easier with the rear seat bottom removed :) Then check out
the mechanism and
maybe only a little silicone spray helps. Mine had trouble
too and I did this.
Worked good for some months until it started again. Now I
live with that.
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<< 3). Tire
pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires
say
> 44 psi .. What should I go with? >>
The 44 psi is
just the recomended tire pressure for that tire
cold...........id use 32 in
front and 29 in back............
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All,
As summer air temps move in,
I find my performance suffering just enough to
make me want to
compensate. Winter performance is so crisp and strong you
forget how
much things get slowed up by the higher temps. I've been
pondering
adding nitrous to compensate but I dont want to put out a match
with a fire
hose so to speak. For those with nitrous knowledge, is it
possible to
add a small enough dose to simulate winter air density?
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advance,
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Roger:
On May 11, R.G.
said:
[snip]
> Gutting the precats will help to free up the restriction
of the exhaust much
> more than any cat-back system. There are cars with
stock exhaust dynoed around
> 550hp in Europe (one crashed in
France).
What is the cost of gutting (er...what _is_ gutting?) the
precats, and is the
cost/hp ratio lower with the precat gut mod than with a
catback mod for a car
that already has the K&N FIPK installed?
On
May 12, R.G. said:
> > 3). Tire pressure. The car door says
32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires say
> > 44 psi .. What should I
go with?
>
> 44psi
Isn't the 44psi the _maximum_ tire
pressure rating for the tire? I was
informed that the only time anybody
runs them so high is during autocross.
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Gabriel
You may have answered this in a private
email and if you have I will
apologize now. But, I am going to ask the
hard question straight out.
When you did the crankcase flush did you do ALL
of these steps
1. Before you drained old oil you added the crankcase
flush to the
engine oil.
2. Ran the engine for 5 minutes at IDLE or no
more than 1500RPM.
3. Shut the engine off and drained all of the old oil
letting it drain
for at least 10 minutes.
4. Removed the
old oil filter.
5. Installed a new oil filter.
6. Filled the crankcase
with new Mobil 1 15-50 or 10-30 oil.
7. Started the engine and checked for
leaks around the drain plug and
oil filter.
I am sorry if this seems
really basic, but I have known people to do
some really strange stuff and
since I don't know you, have to ask the
basic questions so we can put to rest
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gone bad. Especially since it was done right
before a ~140 mile trip.
Please don't take this
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>> 3). Tire pressure. The car door says
32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires
say
>> 44 psi .. What should
I go with?
>
>44psi
I hate to disagree with Roger the wizard,
but I think 44 psi is the maximum
pressure. It's what I run on open track
events, and the tires are really
stiff. On the street, you oughta go with
32/29. Unless, of course, you are
running on the Autobahn at 160+ mph like
Roger does.
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>
>My answer...to get a good fit, with no leaks,
and no interference is not a
>simple task. Aside from materials ($150?),
there's labor at $65 an hour
>(unless you have all the equipment at home).
Again, it's not just straight
>pipe with angles, but mandrel bends. It
quickly becomes a $300+ venture, at
>which point you're over half way to
buying one. There has been some
>listmembers who've tried to get precat
replacements from SS and found shops
>that want $300 just to design and
produce one set of those.
OK, that's the cost of the FIRST one. Then, you
send the prototype to a
fabricator to have 500 copies bent up and welded on a
CNC mandrel bending
jig, so that additional copies cost $10 for parts and $5
for labor per
unit, meaning that they should be able to sell them for 2X
cost, or $30 per
pipe (about right for an exhaust pipe, eh?). So I repeat my
question: Why
does a downpipe cost hundreds of dollars? Are we being ripped
off?
Most listmembers have taken the time (and
necessary
>precautions) to gut their precats. It leaves the O2 sensor in
place, but
>reduces back pressure.
This gets back to my question
about passing future emission tests. If I gut
the precats, and then can't
pass an emission test, it will cost me a bloody
fortune to buy new stock
downpipes with precats from Mitsu -- probably even
more than the ripoff SS
downpipes. To me, it seems like the ideal solution
is to drop the entire
stock system, seal it up and put it away somewhere,
and install an entirely
new exhaust with no cats. Then, if Big Brother
shows up with an emission
test, we just get the stock system out of the
attic and put it back on. Or
bolt in a huge catalytic converter just to
pass the test.
What's
wrong with this approach? Where can I buy a complete
replacement
exhaust?
I am beginning to think that what the 3000GT
world needs is somebody who is
willing to engineer and build some simple,
straightforward racing equipment
and sell it at a nice -- but not ripoff --
price. Anybody like that out there?
>I hope this helps. There was a
excellent post on gutting the precats last
>year. It should be in the
archives, or I can dig it out of my folders if
>someone e-mails me
privately.
Thanks. I saved Roger's instructions (and a couple of others)
last year.
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1. You will fin a wire catch that locks into a hook on the
right and
left front edge of the back seat. Push back and pull up and the
seat
will release. No storage, seat is form fit to pan.
2.CD player
connections???
3. > The 44 psi is just the recommended tire
pressure for that tire
> cold...........id use 32 in front and 29 in
back............
44 PSI is the MAXIMUM recommended inflation the tire
is rated for. The
door jam sticker is the Manufacturer's recommended
tire pressures,
also cold. You can vary the pressure to suit your preferences
but
below the recommended 32/29 will cause abnormal tire wear. Unless
you
have the 245/45 18 set of tires rims you won't want to go near 44
PSI.
Doesn't the ES have 15 or 16' rims? Above 35 PSI on the 15's
will
cause traction loss as your contact patch diminishes in size
and
excessive center wear on the tires. You have some leeway on the
16"
rims. Start at 32/29 and drive it a while, go up to 34/30 and try
it
next. Also drive through some water onto dry pavement slowly and
get
out and look at the wet tread pattern on the pavement and see when
the
full width of the tread does not leave a solid mark.
4. This will
sound strange; the belt is too limp. Pull it all the way
out and iron it, yes
iron it with some starch at the Nylon setting on
the iron so you don't melt
it. It is so limp that it folds and and
wrinkles so it binds and won't
retract. The other way is to remove the
inner trim panels and increase the
sprig tension on the retractor is
it pulls harder, but it will pull harder on
you when you drive.
Ron
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Rich is right.
The 44 psi is the max TIRE
rating. The door listing is the =
manufacture's recommendation for the
vehicle. Use the door listing for =
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driving is another case!
Pete
91 VR4
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>> 3). Tire pressure. The car
door says 32 front, 29 rear.. but the =
tires
say
>> 44 psi
.. What should I go with?
>
>44psi
I hate to disagree
with Roger the wizard, but I think 44 psi is the =
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pressure. It's
what I run on open track events, and the tires are really
stiff. On the
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> OK, that's the cost of the FIRST one. Then,
you send the prototype to a fabricator to have 500 copies bent up and welded on
a CNC mandrel bending jig, so that additional copies cost $10 for parts and $5
for labor per unit, meaning that they should be able to sell them for 2X cost,
or $30 per
You have never had your own business, eh old poop. Wholesale
is always
3X cost of materials, labor and overhead. At retail it's 2X
whole
sale. You will never get the materials down to $10 and there
is
considerable amount of labor and hand work plus the amount you
invested
in the CNC machinery. I doubt 500 copies would sell that fast
considering the
amount of places doing tail pipe testing and the lack
of mechanics that can
swap them out and back. We suffer from the lack
of economy of scale that so
many of the mass produced car benefit from
like the Eclipse. W just don't
have the numbers for anybody to get
excited about making them since profits
are not going to bring in as
much as something that there is 10x the
potential audience. Example,
how many clutches sold in the group purchase???
Not a 100, just 11.
> This gets back to my question about passing
future emission tests. If I gut
> the precats, and then can't pass an
emission test, it will cost me a bloody
> fortune to buy new stock
downpipes with precats from Mitsu -- probably even
> more than the ripoff
SS downpipes. To me, it seems like the ideal solution
> is to drop the
entire stock system, seal it up and put it away somewhere,
With a test
pipe in your main cat's place and saving your pre cat down
pipes it would be
a shorter change over. Some places have gotten
really strict, and nothing but
stock passes. They won't even pass a
dual exhaust with a balance tube ahead
of the cats!
> I am beginning to think that what the 3000GT world
needs is somebody who is willing to engineer and build some simple,
straightforward racing equipment and sell it at a nice -- but not ripoff --
price. Anybody like that out there?
>
But where is the incentive for
someone to go to all the effort, money
makes the world go around. Most of my
friends are too time poor to pay
attention, let along take on a charity
project. It has to be a labor
of love only. Big, cool machines are expensive
and only pay for
themselves when being billed out so they can pay the bank
for the loan
it took to buy them. Government jobs take 5th priority.
Sorry for the dose of cold, humble reality.
Ron
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i know this has been asked before but i can remember the
responce..............
1. what r the pro's and cons
of gutting/removing the precats?
2. what r the pro's
and cons of gutting the main cat(if thats what its
called) or should u just
replace it with a racing cat..........so u can pass
inspection?
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> 5). The driver's side seat belt has trouble
retracting.
> Is there a way to make it work
better?
This is a list of the more common problems with these
cars:
1. Cracked dash vents
2. Peeling
triangle windows next to door
3. Driver's seatbelt failing to
retract
4. Hatch cover falling out of clamps
5.
Plastic residue filming on inside of windows
There are a number of ways
to fix such problems, and you
may like to check that there is not a sharp
edge where
the seat belt goes into the wall panel as I seem to
remember
some members mentioning that this can be
a
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Is there a copy of the NHRA Rule Book on line
someplace?
Thanks.
Arty 91 VR-4
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Does anyone know who makes drag slicks in a 17 inch
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I tried both Goodyear and Mickey Thompson neither makes a 17
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Yikes. 44 PSI is the maximum
pressure at the maximum load rating of that
tire. It is VERY doubtful
that optimal performance will be found at 44 psi,
but it largely depends on
the tire the driving conditions.
The best place to start is with the door
sticker pressure and adjust from
there to suit your tastes and performance
requirements for your
particular
tires.
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> -----Original
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>
> Roger:
>
> On May 12, R.G.
said:
> > > 3). Tire pressure. The car door says 32
front, 29 rear..
> but the tires say
> > > 44 psi ..
What should I go with?
> >
> > 44psi
>
> Isn't the
44psi the _maximum_ tire pressure rating for the tire? I was
>
informed that the only time anybody runs them so high is during
autocross.
>
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I have to go with Jake on this one, sorry Roger. I
went with the tire
pressure and prematurely ruined a great set of
tires. The centers wore
out much too fast because I was running too
much pressure.
Regards,
Lynn
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> In a message dated 5/11/99 5:43:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
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robby@swissonline.ch writes:
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> << 3). Tire
pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29 rear.. but the tires
>
say
> > 44 psi .. What should I go with? >>
>
The 44 psi is just the recomended tire pressure for that tire
>
cold...........id use 32 in front and 29 in back............
>
>
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I can speak to the pre-cat eliminator
pipes. I had a set built as did at
least one other list
member.
Most places who have seen them won't even touch the design.
Period. There
are usually two concerns cited. First the rear
pre-cat is a relatively
complex design which requires some clever and time
consuming fabrication
work. Although mine were prototypes and therefore
may have taken a bit
longer than absolutely necessary, there was significant
time invested in
building just the rear pipe. The front one is child's
play.
The other reason is that the EPA can get downright gnarly if they
catch wind
of a business producing and selling such pipes that find their way
on road
going vehicles.
As to cost, consider the price of cutting
heavy enough flanges, the labor
intensive tricky fabrication, and then add
coating to the bill. Adds up
quick. $500-$750 USD for the pair
would not be unreasonable. Note that
this does not include the
downpipe, just the pre-cat eliminators.
The complete exhaust is pretty
easy to remove and reinstall except for the
rear pre-cat. It is a real
PITA.
Frankly, I question the measurable performance increase of gutted
pre-cats,
but since noone has back to back dyno numbers or numerous
comparitive 1320'
runs, any argument one way or the other is pretty much
moot.
There may even be a solid argument against doing it. The
sudden expansion
of gases when they hit the much larger volume of a gutted
pre-cat will
likely slow down exhaust flow significantly which is a big no-no
for a
performance exhaust system. I certainly cannot provide evidence
of this
theory so I doubt discussion by itself would be
conclusive.
More than one exhaust and performance shop (who would benefit
by selling a
high flow cats, and they do sell them) have directed me that a
healthy cat
is not as restrictive as we like to think. *shrug* My
main cat is staying
put for the time
being.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> >Along the line of Catalitic converters/
How hard would it be to
> replace the
> >precats with a piece of
straight pipe?
>
> If we are going to get into this topic, I have a
few questions:
>
> 1. Why do those furshlugginer downpipes cost so
dang much? It's just a
> piece of SS pipe with a flange and no cats,
right? Is this yet another
> ripoff?
>
> 2. Can we take all
the cats off and then get through an inspection later?
> Is it wise to
keep the old system and stick it back on when necessary? (If
> it's
anything like rotors, I should be able to change it back in 10
> minutes).
Will a VR4 pass the 49 states emissions with just one main cat?
> We don't
have emission inspections in Iowa yet, but Murphy's Law says that
> the
very second I take down my exhaust, IDOT will start inspecting.
>
>
3. How much trouble is it to take down the entire exhaust system? Does
>
anyone sell a cat-less replacement?
>
> Rich/old poop/gasp!
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Welcome to our world ;)
I've read
the other responses, and will disagree with a couple of them here.
>
2). I took out the spare tire to clean up some pine needles that
had
fallen
> into the well, and I found two loose wires behind the rear
seats. They
were
> both female ends, and one looked like a
computer keyboard plug. Anyone
know
> what these
are?
These are connectors for a CD Changer. I *may* have one
available to sell
you, if you're interested. BTW, Pioneer used to be
the OEM for these cars,
but their current lineup of changers will not
work.
> 3). Tire pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29
rear.. but the tires
say
> 44 psi .. What should I go
with?
32/29 for "normal" driving. The owner's manual says
to add 4psi front and
back if driving at sustained speeds of 100+. I
generally set mine at 34/31,
since I'm usually running 60-80.
>
5). The driver's side seat belt has trouble retracting. Is there a
way
to
> make it work better?
OK, I know there is a web page
with a 15 minute fix to this problem. It
involves scraping some
material off of the plastic cover which is dragging
on the belt as it tries
to retract. I remember that it's dirt simple, I
just can't remember the
details or where it's posted. Help?
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Agreed.
The general rule for tire pressures is 10%
increase from cold pressure when
hot and adjust from there to suit driving
conditions and preferences. The
other thing to use is a pyrometer if
you're being totally serious about
track work but that's likely not what
we're after.
If tire pressure increase exceeds 10% of the baseline cold
pressure,
increase tire pressure. Do the opposite if tire pressure does
not increase
to around 10%. The reason for this is tires with lower
pressure move around
more. The movement of the carcass translates into
heat.
For the performance minded (track use where temperatures remain
relatively
constant) you will typically want to run the lowest pressure
possible
without causing excessive tire heat. Heat will wear tires very
rapidly.
You also need to balance that against contact patch which varies by
tire
type and suspension geometry.
These guidelines are for
performance oriented tire use. Street is a
different deal. You
probably want the tires to last and to remain fairly
consistent under a broad
variety of fairly tame driving conditions. Even
moderately hot street
driving is "tame". A little more pressure (2-3 psi)
than
recommended on the door will usually do the trick for highway driving
and
door pressures are usually fine for most legal city
driving.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
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>
> I have to go with Jake on this one, sorry
Roger. I went with the tire
> pressure and prematurely ruined a
great set of tires. The centers wore
> out much too fast because I
was running too much pressure.
>
> Regards,
>
Lynn
>
> RTTURB0@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a
message dated 5/11/99 5:43:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >
robby@swissonline.ch writes:
> >
> > << 3).
Tire pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29 rear..
> but the
tires
> > say
> > > 44 psi .. What should I go
with? >>
> > The 44 psi is just the recomended tire pressure for
that tire
> > cold...........id use 32 in front and 29 in
back............
> >
> > Jake (Tire Tech)
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Maybe
this isn't a technical question and to keep the S/N ratio down to
a minimum,
please reply to me directly.
Some things have happened recently in my
life which have me tossing
around the idea of getting rid of the
Stealth. Alot of you remember
that I had a fairly serious accident in
November, for those of you who
don't, please visit Eric Bowden's
website. Here's a direct link---->
1991 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo
with a nosebleed... .
The car has subsequently been repaired and is in
surprisingly good
structural condition. The problem is that she's
sporting roughly
150,000 miles and the accident was just about the straw that
broke the
camel's back. The other party's insurance company has
refused
repeatedly to admit that they caused any mechanical damage to
the
vehicle, even though the oil light is now on at idle(see
accident
description).
I tell people the car is a '91 with 150K on it
and they are shocked. I
took very good care of this car, but I
have barely touched it since
November.
Anybody want to hazzard a guess
at what I could get for her if I were to
sell?
>The engine
obviously needs work
>the trannie needs to be rebuilt(I have the parts to
do it)
>Everything else is in pretty good shape, all things
considered.
I would only sell to a good home, it's like I'm selling one
of my
kids(even though I don't have any), so if anybody here is interested
in
a fixer-upper, or a (sigh) "parts" car. lemme know, make me an
offer,
you might be surprised at what I'd take.
--
-Jeff
Crabtree
'91 Stealth R/T Turbo(#499)......for
now
'93 Wrangler 4.0L
Sport
St. Louis, MO
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Maybe this isn't a technical
question and to keep the S/N ratio down to
a minimum, please reply to me
directly.
<p>Some things have happened recently in my life which have
me tossing
around the idea of getting rid of the Stealth. Alot of
you remember
that I had a fairly serious accident in November, for those of
you who
don't, please visit Eric Bowden's website. Here's a direct
link---->
<a
href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/5095/crabtree.html">1991
Dodge
Stealth Twin Turbo with a nosebleed...</a> .
<p>The car has
subsequently been repaired and is in surprisingly good
structural
condition. The problem is that she's sporting roughly
150,000 miles
and the accident was just about the straw that broke the
camel's back.
The other party's insurance company has refused
repeatedly to admit that
they caused any mechanical damage to the vehicle,
even though the oil light
is now on at idle(see accident
description).
<p>I tell people the car is a '91 with 150K on it and
they are shocked.
I took very good care of this car, but
I have barely touched it since
November.
<p>Anybody want to hazzard
a guess at what I could get for her if I were
to sell?
<p>>The
engine obviously needs work
<br>>the trannie needs to be rebuilt(I
have the parts to do it)
<br>>Everything else is in pretty good
shape, all things considered.
<p>I would only sell to a good home, it's
like I'm selling one of my kids(even
though I don't have any), so if anybody
here is interested in a fixer-upper,
or a (sigh) "parts" car. lemme
know, make me an offer, you might be surprised
at what I'd
take.
<br>--
<br>-Jeff
Crabtree
<br> '91 Stealth R/T
Turbo(#499)......for
now
<br>
'93 Wrangler
4.0L
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St.
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In a message dated 99-05-06 23:21:56 EDT, you
write:
<< You may already know this, but we don't have lifters. The
camshaft
follower is a bridge like affair that spans between the valve stem
and
and these lifter like units some call valve lash limiters. They
are
kept pumped up with oil, just like lifers, but just hold up their end
of
the bridge while the camshaft lobe pushes in the middle which causes
the
valve on the other end of the bridge to be
opened.
Regards,
Lynn >>
This is just the information
I was looking for! I did not, in fact, know
about this
"pseudo-rocker-arm" device.
Talked to a guy who lives here in
the same apartment complex and who used to
be an auto mechanic. Super
sharp/nice guy who drives the previous style
mustang GT. He explained that
the typical problem with hydraulic lifters is
that they will clog with oil
deposits - especially if you SWITCH oil brands.
Different oil brands will
often have a bad reaction and gum up the works.
Somehow, oil pressure is
used to keep the lifter in constant contact with the
cam lobes. Deposits
will block or restrict the supply of oil to the lash
adjuster - especially
with lower oil pressure at idle (explains why tick goes
away at higher RPM
and why it is worse when the oil is warm/thin and low
pressure)
I
asked him about the difficulty in replacing the lifters. He said I'd
probably have to pull the timing belt and cams since most DOHC engines he
had
worked on required this (lifters are actually nothing more than
extension of
the valve stem and they sit directly under the camshaft). Your
very timely
info about the mechanism used for the valve lash adjusters in
our engines
makes me believe that it might be possible to do the job without
pulling the
cams. Furthermore, I'm thinking that simply disassembling and
cleaning/flushing the lash adusters might correct the problem. Of course I
can imagine that the blockage might be somewhere between the oil supply and
the lash adjusters. In this case we would be talking about flushing whatever
oil passageway there is in the block.
I also asked him about a
product called Rislone engine treatment. This is a
single quart of oil that
has alot of detergents. It is added during oil
change or when oil low. Both
my regular mechanic and guy next door suggest
using it - should help clear
up any gumming problems. My regular mechanic
also suggested that I NOT do
the flush treatment as it causes damage to the
engine while you are idling
it for those 5 or so minutes with the flush. Not
enough lubrication while
running I guess.
Finally, both these guys advise against doing anything
drastic to correct the
problem if I can live with the noise. Was a time when
all engines sounded
like this before the clever idea of using oil pressure
to keep constant
pressure on the cam profile (aka hydraulic lifters). When
we loose this
hydraulic pressure effect, we have a gap between the lowest
point in the cam
profile and the pushrod, lifter, or whatever mechanism
rides on the cam
profile. When the gap is taken up by the "rising"
profile on the cam, there
is a slight impact giving this tick noise. I've
been assured that there is no
damage as the parts are very robust.
Hmmmmm.
I plan on doing:
1) the Rislone engine
treatment.
...and if that doesn't work, I might:
2) opening the
engine to hand clean/flush or replace the last adjusters and
clean the oil
passages leading to the lash adjusters. This may be a bit
ambitious, but I
think a good mechanic could do the replacement job in about
5 hours as per
the info on my maint. records. I'll have to get the step by
step
instructions from my mechanic (the guy is willing to download it for me
-
what a guy!) and look at a manual (Dave Trent has one and he doesn't mind
me
mooching a look at it - what a guy!)
I'll keep you
posted
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>You have never had your own business, eh old poop.
Well, as a matter of fact, I did. I sold books over the
Internet.
Sold the biz last year.
Wholesale is always
>3X cost
of materials, labor and overhead. At retail it's 2X whole
>sale.
So, I'm talking 2X cost for retail. Seems the same to me. No
wholesale
involved.
You will never get the materials down to $10
and there is
>considerable amount of labor and hand work plus the amount
you
>invested in the CNC machinery.
I'm not investing in CNC
machinery. I'll job it out to a shop.
I doubt 500 copies would sell that
fast <snip> Example,
>how many clutches sold in the group
purchase??? Not a 100, just 11.
Still, if we made 25 sets, and sold them
for $100 each, it would work, even
if we double the cost estimate.
Nobody
would get wealthy, but nobody would lose, either.
>
>But where is
the incentive for someone to go to all the effort, money
>makes the world
go around. >Sorry for the dose of cold, humble
reality.
>
Well....how about this?
If someone were to make all this
stuff, and sell it to his buddies all over
the world at a reasonable but not
ripoff profit, then the whole thing would
be a BUSINESS and one could write
off all the expenses involved, such as
attending open track events, modifying
one's VR4, and so on. Hmm...
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> Still, if we made 25 sets, and sold them for $100
each, it would work, even
> if we double the cost estimate.
> Nobody
would get wealthy, but nobody would lose, either.
Set point Rich. Didn't
want to shoot any idea or enthusiasm down, just
playing Devil's advocate on
why we don't see more economical parts. As
I said, I'm "time poor",
or I would have made a hood mold already.
Don't take my post as pessimism,
just realism in the face of being
missed by the broad ax at the office today.
Will Corporate America
ever cut the losers first?
> Well....how
about this?
> If someone were to make all this stuff, and sell it to his
buddies all over
> the world at a reasonable but not ripoff profit, then
the whole thing would
> be a BUSINESS and one could write off all the
expenses involved, such as
> attending open track events, modifying one's
VR4, and so on. Hmm...
Another good point. Any takers???
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> I hate to disagree with Roger the wizard, but I think
44 psi is the maximum
> pressure. It's what I run on open track events,
and the tires are really
> stiff. On the street, you oughta go with 32/29.
Unless, of course, you are
> running on the Autobahn at 160+ mph like
Roger does.
Yes, you're absolutely right, these are my Autobahn settings
:) IMHO, I'd always
runn a little more pressure and check the wear more
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Are you sure you want a slick on a 17"
rim? If you went with the same total
circumfrence, then you won't get
much of a wrinkle. I would think that's why it's
difficult to find a
slick on a large rim, it'd be desirable to have a higher profile
tire so it
wrinkles alot, putting more of the tire's surface to the ground. Perhaps
an
auto crossing tire or a drag radial?
Jason
Aso8@aol.com
wrote:
> Does anyone know who makes drag slicks in a 17 inch
size?
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Well, as I have mentioned previously my 94 VR4 has been
making a ticking
noise for the last few months & after an engine flush
the ticking
returned after about 1500 miles.
It went into the shop
yesterday & today they rang & told me that 21 of
the 24 lash
adjusters were worn & the whole set are now going to be
replaced ( gotta
love that extended warrantye ). In the end the ticking
was so loud I could
hear it the cabin while I was cruising along even
with the stereo
on.
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-----Original Message-----From: Kevin Clark
<Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
|This is a list of the more common problems
with these cars:
|
| 1. Cracked dash vents
| 2.
Peeling triangle windows next to door
| 3. Driver's seatbelt
failing to retract
| 4. Hatch cover falling out of
clamps
| 5. Plastic residue filming on inside of
windows
-----------snip----------
1., 2., and 5.- are all the result
of parking in the sun with the
windows tightly closed. If the dash
vents crack, you're pretty much
out of luck, but I believe the triangle
windows will be replaced by
the dealer. The residue film is caused by
baking the plasticizers
out of the dash and upholstery. Park in the
shade, or facing North
or East in the sun, crack the windows a bit, use
reflective
shields-- car interiors were not meant to sustain temps of 140+
for
extended periods.
Better hatch cover clamps are available from the
dealer at
$1.95/pair.
The seatbelt retraction problem is usually due
to the retractors
"gunking up", and can be fixed by cleaning the
guides with a
pen-knife or blade. Of course if you kink them up, the
ironing
trick works too...
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-----Original Message-----From: Rice-Burner
Crusher
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|I own a 1993 Dodge Stealth ES,
and today I was giving it a
very
thorough
-------------snip-----------
|3). Tire
pressure. The car door says 32 front, 29 rear.. but the
tires
say
|44 psi .. What should I go with?
Lots of good and valid
info has been offered, but the bottom line is
that what FEELS best for your
tires, suspension, and driving
conditions should determine your correct tire
pressure. There is NO
right answer. Like you, I have a non-turbo,
which has a softer
suspension than the turbos... maybe at the sport setting
on a turbo
a high inflation might feel a bit rough, but on mine, with
16"
wheels and 10" wide performance tires (and regularly running
over
100mph) my car feels safest with these settings-- 44 front, 38
rear
normally, 46 front, 40 rear for trips. No, I don't run the
Autobahn
at 160 with Roger (I wish...). Yes, your tires will wear
more
quickly. But I didn't buy a sports car for economy-- I
prefer to
sacrifice some tire life for more accurate handling.
Your
preference might be the opposite. After trying 2psi increments
from
36psi through 48 psi (fronts), my car handles and corners best
with
these tires at a higher inflation, and that might be inappropriate
on
the AWD turbos with their stiffer suspensions. Also, at the
suggestion
of a former list member who used to race a FWD Stealth,
you can neutralize
understeer in corners with a 6psi difference from
front to back (instead of
the standard 3psi - in effect forcing the
rear wheels to "drag"
through a corner - I also use a -1 degree
camber on the front). That
setup makes for a very accurate
cornering dynamic at any speed.
Please
note, BTW, that with my stock 15" wheels and original
Goodyears that
came with the car, my best handling was at a much
lower 40F/35R, and I'd add
a couple of psi for trips. Each
wheel/tire combo will give different
results...
Also note that if you live where it rains a lot, adding a few
pounds
of pressure reduces the tire's "footprint" and cuts down
on
hydroplaning. If your racing in the wet, make that 6 to 10
psi!
We get lots of information here from the turbo owners, but much
less
from those of us with NTs... Why not do all of us a favor and
do
your own tests and report back to us your experiences and the
tires
you're running? If I may suggest, start your tests at 36 front
and
32 rear, and drive it that way for a day or two. Then go up
to
40/36, then 44/40, then 48/44 (just to see what it feels like).
Once
you've chosen what feels best, then vary (only) the rear by
+2psi and then
-2psi. Sorry to disagree with guys who know more
than I do about
tires-- I'm a driver and not a mechanic, so all I
know is when the car
is set up right. My guess is that you're going
to settle in around that
44psi marked on the tires. Please let us
know...
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> OK, I know there is a web page with a 15 minute fix
to this problem. It
> involves scraping some material off of the
plastic cover which is dragging
> on the belt as it tries to
retract. I remember that it's dirt simple, I
> just can't remember
the details or where it's posted. Help?
Before taking anything
apart or cutting any plastic, try taking a razor
blade and scraping the gunky
stuff out of the shoulder loop that the belt
passes through. Mine seemed to
hang up when retracting, and this fixed it
for me. I think Gavin suggested it
at one time.
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Barry made a good point that there is no conclusive data
on no pre-cats
vs. having precats. I know most on this list recommend
gutting them but
has anyone done before & after results??? what
about the "seat of the
pants" feeling?
I too think the
downpipes are OVERPRICED (probly why I don't have one).
But seeing that the
RESTRICTION is not the downpipe itself but rather the
precats (right ,
guys?) Does it make more sense to JUST gut the precats
& use the
STOCK DP?
and as far as emissions, what have ya'all (w/gutted cats)
experienced???
Also does gutting the precats move the powerband higher
(loss of
backpressure & therefore loss of torgue but gained HP)??
or does it
result in more immmediate torgue because the turbos can now spool
at will
w/o any restriction??? Somehow this topic never seems clear (to
me).
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I just bought a new engine stand from
JEG'S. Does anyone know the size (pitch and diameter)of the
bolts that
attach the tranny to the engine? Or does anyone have an engine mounted/ How did
you mount
it? I would like to get my "spare" engine off of the
floor.
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Hi guys I forwarding this from turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone
w/any advice
contact him
> Basically, after months of
fighting different Mitsubishi dealerships
and > explaining to them that
my transmission was failing; I had finally
found
one > that would
replace my transmission within my 12month/12,000 mile
warranty (
> from
last July of 1998 when I had a new transmission put in).
Everything
was
> set and had an appointment to install a new transmission yesterday
under
> warranty. Well after I dropped my car, the service manager had
called
me
> back and stated that, "Your car has been altered by
an after-market
boost
> controller; that voids and Nulls any warranty
you have on your VR4. I
did
> not know that about your car when
you came to us last week". This
Service
> manager
stated to me that he even documented my vin# in Mitsubishi's
system
>
that my car was "altered & modified". Meaning that no other
Mitsubishi
> dealership would honor any warranty transmission.
In other words, he
"black > balled" (service manager's
own words) me!
>
> I don't understand?!; There
are several Mitsubishi dealers and other
> manufacturer's (such as
Toyota) that allow their customers warranty
work
even > with their
modifications. But this guy just tried to act
conservative with
> me! I truly thought of removing my boost controller and boost
gauge
before
I > dropped the car; but when I took the car in last week
and explained
my
> problem with the transmission, they had originally
approved it and made
an
> appointment for me!? But after my
whole day of planning (taking time
off
> from work) and making
arrangements to drop my VR4 off for the warranty
> transmission that I
was entitled to; they DENIED me of my right to my
> warranty
transmission.
> Anyway, I have spoken to several other VR4
owners and they stated to
find > this Letter from GReddy that states that
the GReddy Profec B
conforms to
> manufacturer's standards; and that
will help my case. All I want is
what I
> am entitled to:
the new transmission under my warranty. I was DENIED
that!
> I even tried to explain that I had just recently installed that boost
> controller but had transmission problems way before I installed the
>
modification.
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I think the stock downpipe is horribly
restrictive and probably a bigger
issue that the pre-cats.
The rear
turbo dumps into the downpipe at a 90 degree angle to the main
downpipe for
starters. Also there is a significant difference in the
distance
exhaust travels from the front turbo versus the rear. The
inside
diameter of the stock DP also appears to be poorly matched to the rest
of
the exhaust system.
That being said, I kind of doubt there would be
a noticable difference
between a stock DP and a decent aftermarket DP on a
stock car. I suspect
that any tangible differences would only be found
once other flow
improvements or demands had been made, like bigger turbos
etc.
Riger's dyno tests seemed to indicate that the stock vs aftermarket
DP
didn't make much difference. However I am somewhat suspect of those
dyno
runs given that the car may not have been 100% up to snuff at the
time.
Even if the dyno runs are representative, it is possible that
the
aftermarket bits move the power around to a more performance
oriented
location in the curve without actually making significantly more
power.
That would also be an improvement.
When I installed my DP I
also installed a cat back exhaust and air filter at
the same time so I can't
really speak to the effectiveness of just the DP
alone. I definitely
noticed a difference as measured against a friend's
Ferrari F355 and a local
supposedly stock Supra TT. There was better
acceleration that could be
felt in every gear and a few more MPH up top.
Stock for stock against the
F355, whoever got the best start typically won
stop light drags. The
F355 ran away on the highway. After my basic
upgrades I could pretty
much beat the F355 at will below 120 MPH. At 140
MPH the F355 simply
walked away -- a Spyder no less even with the top down.
This is with 15 PSI
of boost which I had also been running when everything
else was bone
stock. I was always able to outrun this particular Supra but
after the
mods the difference was more apparent. I don't know exactly how
much
that helps but there was a difference.
Again, since noone, especially not
even the manufacturers of these products,
can provide conslusive data, it
remains theoretical. I believe the DP is
worth it when additional mods
are in place.
Barry
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>
> Barry made a good point that there is no conclusive
data on no pre-cats
> vs. having precats. I know most on this list
recommend gutting them but
> has anyone done before & after
results??? what about the "seat of the
> pants"
feeling?
>
> I too think the downpipes are OVERPRICED (probly why I
don't have one).
> But seeing that the RESTRICTION is not the downpipe
itself but rather the
> precats (right , guys?) Does it make more
sense to JUST gut the precats
> & use the STOCK DP?
>
>
and as far as emissions, what have ya'all (w/gutted cats)
experienced???
>
> Also does gutting the precats move the powerband
higher (loss of
> backpressure & therefore loss of torgue but gained
HP)?? or does it
> result in more immmediate torgue because the
turbos can now spool at will
> w/o any restriction??? Somehow this
topic never seems clear (to me).
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At 08:54 AM 5/12/99 , you
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>Does anyone know the size
>(pitch and diameter)of the
>bolts that attach the tranny to the engine?
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On May 12, Nick Xiong said:
> Also does gutting the
precats move the powerband higher (loss of
> backpressure & therefore
loss of torgue but gained HP)?? or does it
> result in more
immmediate torgue because the turbos can now spool at will
> w/o any
restriction??? Somehow this topic never seems clear (to me).
I
believe the issue of backpressure is moot for turbos. The more the
pressure
differential between the input and output side of the turbos, the
faster spool
up time and better performance. Am I right?
I would
like to know which of the following options provides the better
cost/hp
ratio: gutting pre-cats vs. less restrictive aftermarket catback
exhaust
system.
Thanks!
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Sankar...
Not sure you mean "moot"
(insignificant). The backpressure issue IS
significant, particularly with
larger turbos, more boost, etc. The ideal
would be to have NO exhaust system,
thus eliminating backpressure. The
result is less torque at the bottom end,
more hp at the top end. It's a
choice. You can't have both (unless you add
nitrous for the bottom end).
Now, for cost vs gain, gutting all three
cats is inexpensive if it's your
time and energy. The gain is significant,
again, particularly if you're
running higher than stock boost. The catback
system is mostly for sound and
weight reduction. The restrictions in the
system are at the front end (all
three cats and the downpipe) although I can
argue that ANY reduction in
diameter on a 3" system is less than ideal
(so are bends, but it would be
VERY difficult to run straight pipes on our
cars).
Looking forward...Chris
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On May 12, Nick Xiong said:
> Also does gutting the precats
move the powerband higher (loss of
> backpressure & therefore loss of
torgue but gained HP)?? or does it
> result in more immmediate
torgue because the turbos can now spool at will
> w/o any
restriction??? Somehow this topic never seems clear (to me).
I
believe the issue of backpressure is moot for turbos. The more
the
pressure
differential between the input and output side of the turbos,
the faster
spool
up time and better performance. Am I
right?
I would like to know which of the following options provides the
better
cost/hp ratio: gutting pre-cats vs. less restrictive aftermarket
catback
exhaust system.
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Ron:
>4. This will sound strange; the belt is
too limp. Pull it all the way
>out and iron it, yes iron it with some
starch at the Nylon setting on
>the iron so you don't melt it. It is so
limp that it folds and and
>wrinkles so it binds and won't retract. The
other way is to remove
>the
>inner trim panels and increase the
sprig tension on the retractor is
>it pulls harder, but it will pull
harder on you when you drive.
Or you can do like me, go in and b*tch, and
they replaced mine free under
Mitsu warranty. (I'm assuming your car is
under 100K miles.)
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Doesn't surprise me one single bit. They (Mitsu)
will do anything from having to honor an agreement they put in place
themselves. They have proven that over and over again especially with the
3si.
My advice is to have the guy take all his documentation on when he
first started having problems with the tranny (hopefully he visited a dealership
and got some type of documents) and the receipt for the boost controller and
show them that it happened prior. Then get on the horn / fax to Mitsu
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>Hi guys I forwarding this from turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone w/any
advice
>contact him
>
>> Basically, after months of
fighting different Mitsubishi dealerships
>and > explaining to them
that my transmission was failing; I had finally
>found
>one >
that would replace my transmission within my 12month/12,000 mile
>warranty
(
>> from last July of 1998 when I had a new transmission put in).
>Everything
>was > set and had an appointment to install a new
transmission yesterday
>under
>> warranty. Well after I
dropped my car, the service manager had called
>me
>> back and
stated that, "Your car has been altered by an after-market
>boost
>> controller; that voids and Nulls any warranty you have on your
VR4. I
>did
>> not know that about your car when you came
to us last week". This
>Service
>> manager
stated to me that he even documented my vin# in Mitsubishi's
>system
>> that my car was "altered & modified". Meaning
that no other Mitsubishi
>
>> dealership would honor any warranty
transmission. In other words, he
>"black >
balled" (service manager's own words) me!
>>
>> I don't understand?!; There are several Mitsubishi dealers
and other
>> manufacturer's (such as Toyota) that allow their
customers warranty
>work
>even > with their modifications.
But this guy just tried to act
>conservative with
>> me! I
truly thought of removing my boost controller and boost gauge
>before
>I > dropped the car; but when I took the car in last week and
explained
>my
>> problem with the transmission, they had
originally approved it and made
>an
>> appointment for
me!? But after my whole day of planning (taking time
>off
>> from work) and making arrangements to drop my VR4 off for the
warranty
>> transmission that I was entitled to; they DENIED me of my
right to my
>> warranty transmission.
>> Anyway,
I have spoken to several other VR4 owners and they stated to
>find >
this Letter from GReddy that states that the GReddy Profec B
>conforms to
>> manufacturer's standards; and that will help my case. All I
want is
>what I
>> am entitled to: the new transmission
under my warranty. I was DENIED
>that!
>> I even
tried to explain that I had just recently installed that boost
>>
controller but had transmission problems way before I installed the
>>
modification.
>
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On Wed, 12 May 1999
01:43:31 Bob Forrest wrote:
>-----Original Message-----From:
Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
>|This is a list of the more
common problems with these cars:
>|
>| 1. Cracked dash
vents
>| 2. Peeling triangle windows next to
door
>| 3. Driver's seatbelt failing to retract
>|
4. Hatch cover falling out of clamps
>| 5. Plastic
residue filming on inside of
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>-----------snip----------
>
>1., 2., and 5.- are all
the result of parking in the sun with the
>windows tightly closed.
If the dash vents crack, you're pretty much
>out of luck, but I believe
the triangle windows will be replaced by
>the dealer. The residue
film is caused by baking the plasticizers
>out of the dash and
upholstery. Park in the shade, or facing North
>or East in the sun,
crack the windows a bit, use reflective
>shields-- car interiors were not
meant to sustain temps of 140+ for
>extended periods.
Best thing
for cleaning windows I've found that has the film build-up is called "Glass
Wax" found at Ace Hardware in the Home Cleaning Supplies area. It's
almost like waxing your windows - does good job and lasts longer than
Windex. Also doesn't leave the streaks like other window
cleaners.
I don't see how the vents break the way they do. Mine are
broken in like 2 locations on each vent. I'd say another poor
design/build.
>
>Better hatch cover clamps are available from
the dealer at
>$1.95/pair.
>
>The seatbelt retraction problem
is usually due to the retractors
>"gunking up", and can be fixed
by cleaning the guides with a
>pen-knife or blade. Of course if you
kink them up, the ironing
>trick works
too...
>
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Does anyone know if you gut the pre-cats, will we still
pass
New York State instpection?
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Just a short note on gutting your cats (precats, main cat)
....Dyno tests in Europe
indicate that gutting your cats have a marginal, if
any, effect upon 3S TT's which are
running over 400hp with stock exhaust
systems. These vehicles are equipped with only a
BC and K&N. If you want
to increase your HP over and above this, then larger injectors
and turbos are
the next step, after which you may wish to consider an exhaust system
upgrade
to compliment the new mods. However, gutting cats on an essentially
stock
vehicle (stock turbos, stock injectors) is foolish and will likely net
you more problems
than you want (Immissions Inspections) ofr marginal to
negliable top end performance,
and poorer bottom end. The same holds
true for the cat back system...for performance
your bucks are better spent
elsewhere. Unless you're going to go wild and hairy with
fuel and turbos,
leave the cats alone. Replacing them after the fact can be
veeeery
expensive.
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On May 12, wce@bc.sympatico.ca said:
> Just a short
note on gutting your cats (precats, main cat) ....Dyno tests in
> Europe
indicate that gutting your cats have a marginal, if any, effect upon
> 3S
TT's which are running over 400hp with stock exhaust systems.
Hm..an
80hp increase with just an open-air filter and a boost controller?
This
sounds too good to be true. If this were indeed true, then I know
what
my next mod is gonna be, 'cuz I already have a K&N filter in an
otherwise
stock (performance-wise) car.
-sankar
'97 VR4
Mods:
K&N FIPK, RS*R downsprings, SS brake lines, Porterfield Rotors and
R4S
brake pads in front, SpeedBleeder, weatherstrip airflow mod, Michelin
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Doesn't gutting the cats give your turbos quicker spool up
so your quarter
miles times be a lil faster????
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Gutting out cats
On May 12, wce@bc.sympatico.ca said:
> Just a
short note on gutting your cats (precats, main cat)
....Dyno tests in
>
Europe indicate that gutting your cats have a marginal, if
any, effect
upon
> 3S TT's which are running over 400hp with stock exhaust
systems.
Hm..an 80hp increase with just an open-air filter and a
boost
controller?
This sounds too good to be true. If this were indeed
true,
then I know what
my next mod is gonna be, 'cuz I already have a
K&N filter in
an otherwise
stock (performance-wise)
car.
-sankar
'97 VR4
Mods: K&N FIPK, RS*R downsprings, SS brake
lines,
Porterfield Rotors and R4S
brake pads in front, SpeedBleeder,
weatherstrip airflow mod,
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Just picket the dealership in question.. Stand out front
of their new car
sales area with signs and flyers saying:
Don't' buy
Mitsubishi, they do not honor their warranty.
About two hours of this on a
busy Saturday, they will honor the warranty.
They can't afford not
to.
Just make sure to check to see if you have to have a permit and check
local
laws regarding "non-violent demonstrations" before you
begin.
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Subject: Re: Team3S: VR4 owner blacklisted by
mitsu!!!
Doesn't surprise me one single bit. They (Mitsu) will do
anything from
having to honor an agreement they put in place
themselves. They have proven
that over and over again especially with
the 3si.
My advice is to have the guy take all his documentation on when
he first
started having problems with the tranny (hopefully he visited a
dealership
and got some type of documents) and the receipt for the boost
controller and
show them that it happened prior. Then get on the horn /
fax to Mitsu Corp.
both here in the USA and Japan and lay it all out and
DEMAND they stand up
to THEIR warranty. If that doesn't work, then the
BBB and other Consumer
Agencies. Another resort is to get ahold of the
local TV stations that do
Consumer Action type items and have them do a
report on it (that is if it's
up and up). Alot of publicity like this
in the news will usually get some
action - especially when it looks bad for
the Dealerships / Manufacturer.
--
On Wed, 12 May 1999
10:00:43 Nick Xiong wrote:
>Hi guys I forwarding this from
turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone w/any advice
>contact
him
>
>> Basically, after months of fighting different
Mitsubishi dealerships
>and > explaining to them that my transmission
was failing; I had finally
>found
>one > that would replace my
transmission within my 12month/12,000 mile
>warranty (
>> from
last July of 1998 when I had a new transmission put
in).
>Everything
>was > set and had an appointment to install a
new transmission yesterday
>under
>> warranty. Well after I
dropped my car, the service manager had called
>me
>> back and
stated that, "Your car has been altered by an
after-market
>boost
>> controller; that voids and Nulls any
warranty you have on your VR4. I
>did
>> not know that
about your car when you came to us last week".
This
>Service
>> manager stated to me that he even documented my
vin# in Mitsubishi's
>system
>> that my car was "altered
& modified". Meaning that no other Mitsubishi
>
>>
dealership would honor any warranty transmission. In other words,
he
>"black > balled" (service manager's own words)
me!
>>
>> I don't understand?!; There are several
Mitsubishi dealers and other
>> manufacturer's (such as Toyota) that
allow their customers warranty
>work
>even > with their
modifications. But this guy just tried to act
>conservative
with
>> me! I truly thought of removing my boost controller and
boost gauge
>before
>I > dropped the car; but when I took the car
in last week and explained
>my
>> problem with the transmission,
they had originally approved it and made
>an
>> appointment for
me!? But after my whole day of planning (taking
time
>off
>> from work) and making arrangements to drop my VR4
off for the warranty
>> transmission that I was entitled to; they
DENIED me of my right to my
>> warranty transmission.
>>
Anyway, I have spoken to several other VR4 owners and they stated to
>find
> this Letter from GReddy that states that the GReddy Profec
B
>conforms to
>> manufacturer's standards; and that will help my
case. All I want is
>what I
>> am entitled to: the
new transmission under my warranty. I was DENIED
>that!
>>
I even tried to explain that I had just recently installed that
boost
>> controller but had transmission problems way before I
installed the
>>
modification.
>
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> Hi guys I forwarding this from
turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone w/any advice
> contact him
> > back and
stated that, "Your car has been altered by an after-market
> boost
> > controller; that voids and Nulls any warranty you have on your
VR4
I doubt that it's that easy for them to void a warranty. SEMA the
aftermarket trade
group has been fighting this problem for years. One of the
key points on your
side is that they have to prove that the modification
resulted in the failure of the
transmission. The modification was not
done to the transmission.
[ spend a few bucks and talk to a contract lawyer
].
You can argue that you were running moderate boost and used it
primarily
for passing on two lane roads. You might also try to talk to
someone at SEMA
maybe they can recommend a course of action. Or maybe just a
small claims
action might jog the dealer into action, in Calif. you can get
up to $5000 in a
small claims judgment . I assume in that case you need to
spend money
to repair it first .
Another point is to get the dealer to
decline in writing and state the reason for
not repairing your car. In
addition write down as many details of this search
to find a dealer as you
can while the memory is still fresh. If you go to court the
more written
documentation you have the
better.
Good
luck -- Keep us up to-date -- Jim Berry
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> > Hi guys I forwarding this from
turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone w/any advice
> > contact him
> >
> back and stated that, "Your car has been altered by an
after-market
> > boost
> > > controller; that voids and
Nulls any warranty you have on your VR4
I know that here in Va,
and possibly other states, the manufacturer cannot void a
warranty based on
modifications. They can deny a repair where the loss was caused as
a
direct result of a modification, and they have to substantiate this.
I'd definitely get
it in writing, and refer to the owner's manual.
Coverage's are stated there, and if
what they say isn't in the manual,
they're lying. Get it in writing, with the reason
why they refuse to
cover it, I'd even go as far as to have them site the owner's
manual/warranty
book in the letter. I'd then take the letter to the BBB and
other
places, not sure the insurance commissioner would get involved in
warranty claims. I
like the idea of picketing also, check the laws
first though.
Had I known the above when I had my trans replaced over
2 years ago, I would have
laughed and shoved my old transmission up the
service advisor's a** after he told me my
clutch was releasing high, and my
new trans would have no warranty if I didn't replace
the clutch
also.
Here's to Mitsu, they suck and blow...
Jason
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I was black listed by MITSU AS WELL!!! My engine had
problems under
warranty. I took it to Mitsu 4 times to have it
fixed. The 4th time it was
supposively completely fixed
The next
day....the car threw a rod. Mitsu told me they were going to
warranty
the car....then 15 min. later....they told me they changed their
mind. Mitsubishi is very rediculous and sorry in
America. They also don't
know how to work on their own
cars. You will never get them to warranty it
now....unless you pay
thousands for an attorney.
I like my car....but I HATE Mitsubishi with
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Hey everyone,
I ran across this product on the DSM
digest and I thought I would forward it
to the group. Its a tire
pressure monitor. The sensors go inside each tire
and the monitor
mounts in the cabin of your car. Looks really cool. I
think its
similar to what the new Vettes have. Has anyone tried
this
product? Check it out at:
http://www.smartire.com/scstore/index.html
Any
thoughts??
later,
Curt G
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> Does anyone know if you gut the pre-cats, will we
still pass
> New York State instpection?
Why not asking the
department <g> ?
How do they do the test and how do they want to find
out if the pre-cats are
still there ? With our pollution test here in
Europe, the pre-cats do not give
anything when the main cat is hot. On my car
currently running no cat (for
tests, of course) it smells different when hot
than with a cat. When driving out
of the garage in the morning smell is the
same.
Cheers,
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The one thing that works good for this purpose is direct
Water Injection.
Unfortunately, we do not have a lot space left in the engine
bay and I still
haven't found a place for the pump :(
Get more
information on the Aquamist homepage
:
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> Doesn't gutting the cats give your turbos quicker
spool up so your quarter
> miles times be a lil faster????
This is
one of the main purposes speed-wise. Power-wise the effectivity of the
turbos
will raise and the same compressed air will be less heaten up. The last
is
caused by the better effectivity, plus the less heat due to the
better
evapuration of the O2 sensor
housing.
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> Hm..an 80hp increase with just an open-air filter and
a boost controller?
> This sounds too good to be true.
FOR SURE it
is TRUE ! Remeber, you are running on an ultra-save boost-level and
high-rich
fuel system. Cranking up the boost is the basic mod on all turbo
engines. No
way around this !
> If this were indeed true, then I know what my next
mod is gonna be, 'cuz I
> already have a K&N filter in an otherwise
stock (performance-wise) car.
BUT, please follow any advice you find on
teh net and DO NOT OVERBOOST ! You can
check out my ignorance-pictures on my
web site ;-/
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Roger
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Just a small note :)
> Just a short note on
gutting your cats (precats, main cat) ....Dyno tests in
> Europe indicate
that gutting your cats have a marginal, if any, effect upon
> 3S TT's
which are running over 400hp with stock exhaust systems.
All three cars
still had their pre-cats still in the path. Mikes and mine both
had a
testpipe and cat-back while Jims had still the full stock exhaust
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Jims peaked at the highest hp level while mine had the higher tourque
curve
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My european owners manual says the following
:
"Changing the system in any way not aproved by Mitsubishi will
void your
worldwide 3year warranty"
I think this is clear enough
... and, of course, you will change the performance
mods back to stock before
you go to a dealer
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Sorry, forgot the URL for the water injection
:
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/
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For sure a good product !
But why do they not tell
you any price ?? Furthermore, they let YOU give a price
when you want to
order it. So how much would you pay for this feature ?
> Has anyone
tried this product? Check it out at:
>
http://www.smartire.com/scstore/index.html
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Roger is absolutely correct with his advise here,
and can be backed up by a myriad of
others who found out the hard way---*do
not boost past 1 bar* (that's 15psi). Otherwise
count on a rebuild sooner or
later, and it'll likely be sooner than you want, and more
expensive than you
dreamed!!!. Set it at 1 bar and leave it there! If you decide on the
fuel
mods and turbo mods, then peruse our archives for threads on this... or
start
interacting with Roger, Chris, Barry, Jack, and numerous others here,
who are the bona
fide heavyweights with these mods and can save you a whole
bunch of heartache with some
advise.
R.G. wrote:
> >
Hm..an 80hp increase with just an open-air filter and a boost
controller?
> > This sounds too good to be true.
>
> FOR
SURE it is TRUE ! Remeber, you are running on an ultra-save boost-level
and
> high-rich fuel system. Cranking up the boost is the basic mod on all
turbo
> engines. No way around this !
>
> > If this were
indeed true, then I know what my next mod is gonna be, 'cuz I
> >
already have a K&N filter in an otherwise stock (performance-wise)
car.
>
> BUT, please follow any advice you find on teh net and DO
NOT OVERBOOST ! You can
> check out my ignorance-pictures on my web site
;-/
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
>
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> Roger Gerl, Switzerland
> 93'3000GT
TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
> K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz
DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
> ATR DP/testpipe,Borla
Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines
> Bremsa
brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
>
> Check out:
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>
>
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Hey guys......go ahead and tell me.....HOW THE HELL DO YOU
GET THE BOLTS
OFFWHEN THEY ARE RUSTED OVER????!!!!!! I've been riding my
bike back and
forth all day ....miles now.......because tools keep
breaking. this is
highly agrivating!!!!! I've tried to use
wd-40 on it and everything. What
tool or method am I going
to have to use to get these damn things off???
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I don't know about full drag slicks in 17's. Nitto
makes some nice Drag
Radials in a 275/40-17
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Nitrous won't hurt anything if properly used. If you
only want something
to make up for hot weather a small 40 or 50 shot will be
plenty, and
still small enough not to do any damage as long as you keep
enough
fuel
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Sorry for what happened that really sucks. But,
lesson learned. The
ball is in the dealers court when they get the car,
they don't like the
mods they keep their tranny. I for one would NEVER
leave a boost
controller in for warranty work unless you know the people
personally.
Leaving it in with unfamiliar people is just begging for
trouble. Well
now you can join in on the bandwagon to get some damn
parts released for
the Getcrap
tranny's.
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A quick comparison-
my friend and I both have 1G
VR4's. He has many more mods than me
INCLUDING gutted pre-cats and an
ATR downpipe. So far he hasn't beat me
at the track or on the street (I
have stock downpipe and stock pre cats)
I usually get him by a reasonable
amount until about 115mph and up where
he is SLIGHTLY quicker. So in my
opinion, if you have stock turbos a
downpipe and gutted pre cats. DO NOT have
a big effect until higher
speeds which you will never reach in the 1/4
mile. However, with more
mods, (bigger turbos, etc.) I think that it
will help a lot.
Just my experienced .02 cents
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First of all anything over 150 dollars for two small pre
cat replacements
is rediculous. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way a
cheap skate, but I
think that anyone willing to spend 300, 500, etc. on pre
cat replacements
needs their heads completely examined. A new pipe will
NOT make that
much of a difference over gutting them. And I also DO NOT
agree with the
theory of gutting them will make the exhaust gasses expand to
quickly and
therefore lose velocity. Think about it, the exhaust gasses
coming out
of the turbo are running dead smack into a brick wall when your
pre cats
are in tact. Save the money on replacements for something else
and just
gut
them.
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All,
Does anyone know were I
might find a small (6" x 8") hood scoop that I could
mount behind
my passenger side pop-up head light. I'm committed to getting
fresh air
into my K&N, and it appears the only good way to do it is a
straight shot
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In a message dated 99-05-12 04:26:14 EDT, you
write:
<< It went into the shop yesterday & today they rang
& told me that 21 of
the 24 lash adjusters were worn & the whole set
are now going to be
replaced ( gotta love that extended warrantye )
>>
Did they describe what criteria they use to determine worn
valves? I'm
thinking of opening up my engine to clean the lash adjusters and
I'd like to
know how to identify worn adusters. It would be nice if I could
take some
kind of measurement with a calipers to determine worn/not
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Bob Forrest wrote:
> |This is a list of the more
common problems with these cars:
> | 3. Driver's seatbelt
failing to retract
> The seatbelt retraction problem is usually due to
the retractors
> "gunking up", and can be fixed by cleaning the
guides with a
> pen-knife or blade. Of course if you kink them up,
the ironing
> trick works too...
I had this same problem for some
time, and I found out the cause
just recently. I had the plastic
seatbelt access cover off, and I
noticed that the seatbelt was
"twisted" once over inside this cover.
I flipped it over (you have
to re-weave it through the guide) so
that it was properly aligned, and now it
retracts perfectly.
Two problems that are rather problems that weren't
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Funny, I just checked it out about an hour ago. I
got as far as
starting to order one for each of my vehicles and then it came
up with
the price of $299.00 for a passenger car. I bailed at this
point: that
is just way too much money! I'll use my $5 air gauge tank
you.
Regards,
Lynn
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>
> For
sure a good product !
>
> But why do they not tell you any price ??
Furthermore, they let YOU give a price
> when you want to order it. So how
much would you pay for this feature ?
>
> > Has anyone tried
this product? Check it out at:
> >
http://www.smartire.com/scstore/index.html
>
> Cheers,
>
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Hi MitsuVR41;
Try using penitrating oil---soak it
on overnight and then break them loose in the
morning. If they still are
seized, you might have to cut them off ( with a blade or a
cutting torch).
The price of of new nuts and bolts is insignificant to the hassel
involved
though.
Best
Darc
MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> Hey
guys......go ahead and tell me.....HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET THE BOLTS
>
OFFWHEN THEY ARE RUSTED OVER????!!!!!! I've been riding my bike back and
>
forth all day ....miles now.......because tools keep breaking. this
is
> highly agrivating!!!!! I've tried to use wd-40 on it and
everything. What
> tool or method am I going to have to
use to get these damn things off???
> Please
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Brad's right, A guy did this 3 Saturdays in a row here and
the dealer
is now closed. Shame them into it and don't give in
easily.
> Just picket the dealership in question.. Stand out front
of their new car
> sales area with signs and flyers saying:
>
> Don't' buy Mitsubishi, they do not honor their warranty.
> About
two hours of this on a busy Saturday, they will honor the warranty.
> They
can't afford not to.
> Just make sure to check to see if you have to have
a permit and check local
> laws regarding "non-violent
demonstrations" before you begin.
>
> > Brad
> Check
out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
> >
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ# 3612682
>
> -----Original
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>
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com] On Behalf Of Terry Swift
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Subject: Re: Team3S: VR4 owner
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>
> Doesn't surprise me one single
bit. They (Mitsu) will do anything from
> having to honor an
agreement they put in place themselves. They have proven
> that over
and over again especially with the 3si.
>
> My advice is to have
the guy take all his documentation on when he first
> started having
problems with the tranny (hopefully he visited a dealership
> and got some
type of documents) and the receipt for the boost controller and
> show
them that it happened prior. Then get on the horn / fax to Mitsu
Corp.
> both here in the USA and Japan and lay it all out and DEMAND they
stand up
> to THEIR warranty. If that doesn't work, then the BBB and
other Consumer
> Agencies. Another resort is to get ahold of the
local TV stations that do
> Consumer Action type items and have them do a
report on it (that is if it's
> up and up). Alot of publicity like
this in the news will usually get some
> action - especially when it looks
bad for the Dealerships / Manufacturer.
> --
>
> On Wed, 12
May 1999 10:00:43 Nick Xiong wrote:
> >Hi guys I forwarding
this from turbodrvn@aol.com, anyone w/any advice
> >contact him
>
>
> >> Basically, after months of
fighting different Mitsubishi dealerships
> >and > explaining to
them that my transmission was failing; I had finally
> >found
>
>one > that would replace my transmission within my 12month/12,000
mile
> >warranty (
> >> from last July of 1998 when I had a
new transmission put in).
> >Everything
> >was > set and
had an appointment to install a new transmission yesterday
>
>under
> >> warranty. Well after I dropped my car, the
service manager had called
> >me
> >> back and stated that,
"Your car has been altered by an after-market
> >boost
>
>> controller; that voids and Nulls any warranty you have on your
VR4. I
> >did
> >> not know that about your car when
you came to us last week". This
> >Service
>
>> manager stated to me that he even documented my vin# in
Mitsubishi's
> >system
> >> that my car was "altered
& modified". Meaning that no other Mitsubishi
>
>
> >> dealership would honor any warranty transmission. In
other words, he
> >"black > balled" (service
manager's own words) me!
> >>
>
>> I don't understand?!; There are several
Mitsubishi dealers and other
> >> manufacturer's (such as Toyota)
that allow their customers warranty
> >work
> >even > with
their modifications. But this guy just tried to act
>
>conservative with
> >> me! I truly thought of removing my
boost controller and boost gauge
> >before
> >I > dropped
the car; but when I took the car in last week and explained
>
>my
> >> problem with the transmission, they had originally
approved it and made
> >an
> >> appointment for me!?
But after my whole day of planning (taking time
> >off
> >>
from work) and making arrangements to drop my VR4 off for the warranty
>
>> transmission that I was entitled to; they DENIED me of my right to
my
> >> warranty transmission.
>
>> Anyway, I have spoken to several other
VR4 owners and they stated to
> >find > this Letter from GReddy that
states that the GReddy Profec B
> >conforms to
> >>
manufacturer's standards; and that will help my case. All I want
is
> >what I
> >> am entitled to: the new
transmission under my warranty. I was DENIED
> >that!
>
>> I even tried to explain that I had just recently installed that
boost
> >> controller but had transmission problems way before I
installed the
> >> modification.
> >
> >
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> HOW GET BOLTS
OFF WHEN RUSTED OVER?
> tools keep breaking. I've
tried wd-40. What
> tool or method?
Best
way: Get a compressor and a half-inch impact wrench with
a set of
extended reach impact sockets. The PROPER size will
probably zing off
all the rust and then spin around the bolt, but then
the 1mm SMALLER size
will fit and work great. I know,
I just did it the other day.
Airpowered impact wrenches RULE
for this, and harmonic damper bolts,
etc.
BTW, the Ingersoll-Rand model 2131 is best so far, it spins
the
Snap-On and Mac impacts in REVERSE when my buddies have
"Impact
Wars" to see what tools are really top dog :)
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> Best way: Get a compressor and a half-inch impact
wrench with
> a set of extended reach impact sockets.
Additional note --- use a six point socket for best grab, the twelve
point
do have a tendency to round the nut easier. Impact sockets are
generally
six point but many folk don,t have a complete set.
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wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
gutting precats,
main cat Dyno tests in Europe
> indicate gut cats have marginal if any
effect on 3S TT's
> running over 400hp with stock exhaust equipped with
only a
> BC and K&N. To increase HP over this larger injectors
>
and turbos are next step, after which consider exhaust system. gutting
cats on
> stock turbo stock injector is foolish and will likely net you
more problems
> for negliable top end performance and poorer bottom
end. same for the cat back system.
> Unless you're going to go wild
and hairy with
> fuel and turbos, leave the cats alone.
>
Darc
I disagree with this cat statement. With all due respect to
the dyno testing which has been
interesting, it is still anecdotal and
here is my anecdote.
My stock 94 3000VR4 did a 14.79 @ 90mph after I
bought it in March 1999.
It was slow. It was a TURD. I took the
wastegate hoses
OFF for max boost potential and that didn't help.
I gutted
the main cat and did a 13.24 @ 103, feathering the throttle to avoid
the
now-easy to hit fuelcut! It spooled like a dream!
The main cat was semi
melted/filled with crap. It turns out that (just discovered
last
weekend) the rear PREcat had totally self-destructed and sent all its
material
into the frontend of the maincat, and a fist-sized chunk of the
after-part of the
FRONT cat did the same...so plugging up the maincat, and
costing BIG
performance.
MAYBE everybody else's cats but mine are all
in perfect shape; MAYBE
some people's are only PARTLY plugged up, and they
are wandering around
WONDERING WHY their car just isn't QUITE as fast as some
of those others on the
internet, 'cause the CATS can't be to blame because
some dyno tests said...
Any restriction to a properly tuned turbo's
exhaust costs performance/spoolup. If the
dyno cars lost SIGNIFICANT
bottom end then they may have been too lean on the bottom
and computer didn't
understand it; there may be some effect of superior cylinder
cleanout that
the cam/mixture/ignition is not optimized for. I agree that the
stock
exhaust is really not bad, but as you increase gas flow it starts to
choke off
further gains more and more, like a parabolic/logarithmic
curve.
Gutting cats is a basic mod IMO. It is a factor
easily
removed from the equation for free (or replace them for small cost) that
CAN
make from little (in some experiences) to an unbelievable LOT (in
my
experience on one of my 2 VR4) of difference.
The same 94 with
bleeder valve boost control, K&N, and gutted MAIN
cat (rear precat
also blown out as noted above) did 12.682@107.20mph
at dragstrip.
The
first mod on these cars is a bleeder valve for upping the boost.
If you want
some minor increases from that first and most important step,
get a K&N
filter (kit for DSM's since cheaper and bigger filter; I can't document
how
much filter helps, I think it is quite minor but is cheap) and
I'd say main
cat replace with testpipe or gut 'for offroad use only'.
After that, gut
precats and consider a downpipe and an exhaust.
Then you will be
frustrated with fuelcut and will be needing bigger
fuelpump and 550/560
injectors and VPC to control injectors...
BTW, VPC/GCC with 720 injectors
took car to 12.386 and 109.5mph at drags,
front precat still partly there, no
other changes. Stock exhaust except gutted main
and rear precat.
Nice and quiet!
And then some bigger turbos...
Once you are over
18psi you are starting to court piston breakage unless you have
excellent
(over 100 octane) gas. Of course, it is certainly possible to go
to
22-25psi with a little nitrous and do just fine for a pretty long time,
too...
"ask yourself one question: do you feel lucky?"
Forged pistons are needed here.
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fwiw, I had the same problem (yeah, I know.. who
hasn't..) and there was NO
F%@#ing way it was coming off with oil or an
impact wrench.. took it to my
favorite local muffler guy who proceeded
to heat it to a nice glowing orange
with a torch.. came right off
although it still took some effort.. now, I
know you might not want to
ask a shop to do the cat excavation work, but once
it's broken free you could
take it back home and do it.. I would also suggest
taking new nuts and
bolts to replace the rusted ones.. (make sure they're
brass though to
keep them from seizing again.. I think brass is
right..)
hmm.. it just dawned on me that the car may not be in a
drivable condition..
in that case, nevermind.. also, don't bother
trying to use a propane torch..
it won't get nearly hot
enough..
Dave
ex 91 VR4 owner :(
but actively looking for a
replacement! :)
wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Hi
MitsuVR41;
>
> Try using penitrating oil---soak it on overnight and
then break them loose in the
> morning. If they still are seized, you
might have to cut them off ( with a blade or a
> cutting torch). The price
of of new nuts and bolts is insignificant to the hassel
> involved
though.
>
> Best
>
> Darc
>
>
MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hey guys......go ahead and tell
me.....HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET THE BOLTS
> > OFFWHEN THEY ARE RUSTED
OVER????!!!!!! I've been riding my bike back and
> > forth all day
....miles now.......because tools keep breaking. this is
>
> highly agrivating!!!!! I've tried to use wd-40 on it and
everything. What
> > tool or method am I going to
have to use to get these damn things off???
> >
Please help!!!!
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on a related subject, I think the bozz speed bonnet
scoops for the '91-'93 look pretty
cool, but there is no way I'm paying $380
for two unpainted pieces of fiberglass. I'm
futzing around with molds
and plaster casts right now, just for the hell of it. I
might try
making my own.
Dave
Trent wrote:
>
All,
>
> Does anyone know were I might find a small (6" x
8") hood scoop that I could
> mount behind my passenger side pop-up
head light. I'm committed to getting
> fresh air into my K&N,
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Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message
dated 99-05-12 04:26:14 EDT, you write:
>
> << It went into
the shop yesterday & today they rang & told me that 21 of
>
the 24 lash adjusters were worn & the whole set are now going to
be
> replaced ( gotta love that extended warrantye )
>>
>
> Did they describe what criteria they use to determine
worn valves? I'm
> thinking of opening up my engine to clean the lash
adjusters and I'd like to
> know how to identify worn adusters. It would
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> kind of measurement with a calipers to
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I'm not sure Paul.
The service
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|Is there a copy of the NHRA Rule Book on line
someplace?
It's about 300 pages if I remember correctly, so I doubt
it...
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> I usually get him by a reasonable amount until about
115mph and up where
> he is SLIGHTLY quicker. So in my opinion, if
you have stock turbos a
> downpipe and gutted pre cats. DO NOT have a big
effect until higher
> speeds which you will never reach in the 1/4
mile.
Well, I assume that you both have the main cat in place, right ? It
would help
to see if the temperature inside the y-pipe decreased after
gutting the
pre-cats. With this, you can increase the boost a little that
finally gives the
advantage. Just watch out to stay rich and the IDC is not
going too high ;-)
Also your friend got a test-pipe for the ATR dp and I
wonder if he ever used it.
Last but not least, the comparision MUST be done
at exactly the same boost
level, otherwise you can't say the one is faster
than the other.
> However, with more mods, (bigger turbos, etc.) I
think that it will help a
> lot.
Yep, upgrading the exhaust makes
only sense after the fuel system has been
upgraded. Jack went the cheap and
performance-wise way. For him a cat-back like
the Borla would help to save a
lot of weight that finally gives better 1/4 mile
times but not really a lot
of performance. On my car the weight of the stock
exhaust kept the car low,
with the Borla I got a SUV....
I mentioned a technical explanation to the
pre-cats in a previous post and about
2 years ago we measured the pressure
and temperature in the O2 sensor housing
using an O2 sensor replacement. The
result was that the pressure was higher than
supposed (I wish I saved the
readings) to be and that's why I then ordered the
downpipe and high flow cat.
Unfortunately, I never did such a test again as the
session as just too
expensive for just finding out what the new backpressure is.
At this time I
never saw a pre-cat but for sure gutting them will lower this
backpressure
and therefore increases the turbos ability to spool
up.
Regards,
Roger
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Everything is already said but I never used a torch on my
cars. Heating the
exhaust up is the key point to get the damn bolts off. I
always drive about 15
minutes before I start to remove anything on the
exhaust. Of course I wear some
think gloves then, hehe. Also a heat gun
(better hairdryer) and lots of WD-40
overnight did a good job for
me.
Good luck !
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> Does anyone know were I might find a small (6" x
8") hood scoop that I could
> mount behind my passenger side pop-up
head light.
Search on the net for "hood scoop" and you'll get
some different sites with such
scoops. Of course cutting the hood will be the
most effective mod but you can
also do something good to the headlight cover.
Just remove the cover and drive
the car (not in rain). If possible, place a
temp meter probe close to the filter
and do a back-to-back test. If you see a
difference you can either design a
headlight scoop like the one from KAZE but
cheaper as well as you can take a
factory cover and mount the scoop on it.
This will be cheaper and easier to do
as cutting the hood.
Let us know
:)
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Maybe you remember that I spoke about the Gremlins in my
car that caused the car
to die during traffic and also some stumble in the
higher rpms. As I have to
redo some of the mods due to our 5 year interval of
government testing (no
comment please) I thought it's a good idea to check
the behaviour afterwards.
here my findings :
a) replaced the HKS SBOV
with the stock bypass valve
I experienced more lag (with the 13Gs) at the
very first ride afterwards. But
the small hesitation when driving on the
Autobahn with the cruise control
engaged was gone ! This leads me to the
conclusion that a Blitz BOV setup with
the stock bypass valve works the best
for performance and cruising. The
stumbling during acceleration was still the
same.
b) checked the front plugs
Found out that I've torqued them down
way too much. Redid them and I'm happy
that they are still ok
c)
During a test ride I exceeded 1bar and then the car stumbled and died
Yeah,
of course it rained cats and dogs and I was 3 miles away from home in
the
dark forest (huuuhu). The y-pipe was fine and the intercooler piping as
well ...
but not the front hard pipe that goes below the water hose. There is
a clamp
underneath that was loose.... tststs (I'm my biggest enemy). Car
runned good
afterwards but with a lot stumbling above 3000rpms (code set
?)
d) The stumbling behaviour
The exact same behaviour in any gear but
starting around 3500 indicated to me
that there is any ignition problem.
Unhooked battery to reset any code ... same
results. Inserted back the
plastic y-pipe tubing inside the intake pipe (after
the MAS, coming from the
bypass valve hole) ... same results.
e) Gremlins ...
My stomach said
that this stumbling and the Gremlins I had earlier seem to come
from the same
problem: Ignition. Checked the wires : damn loose boots ! I found
No.3 and 6
were so loose that they didn't made good contact.i.e. higher rpms,
less spark
-> stumbling -> hesitation. I regapped the contacts, cleaned them
and
hooked them up again ... all problems gone (so far).
The last
ignition wire plug (Nr.6) is very close to the water hose and therefore
can
be pushed out by it during vibration. The best would be a 45° angled
boot
would be prefect for it but only custom made wires feature this. As the
wire
contact problem seems to be the solution for my "Gremlins" I
think it's good to
check them early and often for a prefect
seat.
Regards,
Roger
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Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines
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Street Race pads (too soft)
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Hey everyone,
A friend of mine is selling his 93
Stealth R/T TT. Go
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There has been some good advice on how to remove the
bolts, however, if
what you told me on the phone the other night is true
about the engine
being replaced recently, you may be trying to remove the
wrong bolts
because they should have been removed recently to swap engines. I
think you
may be going after the ones that hold the front pre-cat to the rest
of the
downpipe. I would leave these 2 alone until the downpipe is out from
under
thew car. If you can at least remove all necesary bolts to drop
the
downpipe, (2 up front next to the motor mount, 2 in the rear up above
the
tee in the downpipe, and 2 at the rear of the downpipe in front of the
main
cat) the ones that hold the front pre-cat to the downpipe itself will
be
much easier to remove with the aid of a vise and a saw. (or taking it to
a
shop that has an acetelene torch)
Wayne
PART NUMBERS
Pre-cat
nut - MB059359
Pre-cat stud (if any break) - MD014195
Pre-cat gasket -
MB687002
Main cat gasket - MB687004
At 05:37 PM 5/12/99 , you
wrote:
>Hey guys......go ahead and tell me.....HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET THE
BOLTS
>OFFWHEN THEY ARE RUSTED OVER????!!!!!! I've been riding my bike
back and
>forth all day ....miles now.......because tools keep
breaking. this is
>highly agrivating!!!!! I've tried to
use wd-40 on it and everything. What
>tool or method am
I going to have to use to get these damn things
off???
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Good advice, but I'd took the dp WITH the cat in place
down. This because the
nuts infront the cats are stuck for sure. I had to cut
them.
> downpipe. I would leave these 2 alone until the downpipe is
out from under
> thew car. If you can at least remove all necesary bolts
to drop the
> downpipe, (2 up front next to the motor mount, 2 in the rear
up above the
> tee in the downpipe, and 2 at the rear of the downpipe in
front of the main
> cat) the ones that hold the front pre-cat to the
downpipe itself will be
> much easier to remove with the aid of a vise and
a saw. (or taking it to a
> shop that has an acetelene
torch)
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xwing wrote:
> snip
>
>
MAYBE everybody else's cats but mine are all in perfect shape; MAYBE
>
some people's are only PARTLY plugged up, and they are wandering around
>
WONDERING WHY their car just isn't QUITE as fast as some of those others on
the
> internet, 'cause the CATS can't be to blame because some dyno tests
said...
>
> Any restriction to a properly tuned turbo's exhaust
costs performance/spoolup.
snip
Jack... I have to agree with you
here...any restriction to a properly tuned turbo's exhaust is a
problem,
which would include the interior meltdown you have mentioned. But, the
stock system,
if operating properly, is properly tuned. If not, as in the
case of chunks of crap melting and
blocking it up, then performance has been
compromised and it will be clearly evident. Gutting
and a test pipe are
cheapest solution in this case and will in all likelihood give a seat of
the
pants performance boost when compared to blocked exhaust performance
which was occurring prior
to this. However, if the stock system is
operating as it should, gutting may find results that
are a lot less than
what were anticipated, including lower end bog. It also will create
the
Emissions Inspection problem noted earlier which can be a major hassle
for someone who did not
consider the ramifications of it. If the car is
being prepped for the track, then I am with you
a 100% on gutting the stock
system, adding downpipes, test pipe, and replacing it from the cats
back
(err,,,where the cats used to be). But if used consistently as a daily vehicle,
I'm not
certain this advise is really the best, as low end performance in
stop and go traffic has been
consistently reported as compromised, (whereas
top end has been reported as better) and
emissions testing will be a big
problem down the road. My advise: follow Jack's if you're into
major mods
and/or track use...follow mine if you've modest mods and using it for a daily
driver.
Best
Darc
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Greetings
folks,
I'm hearing a rumbling
rotary noise coming from behind and below
the
engine. It's quite
periodic and sounds similar to a diesel
engine.
I don't hear this sound
while driving, but only when parked
and
idling.
Before I get this
thing checked at the dealer's tomorrow, I thought
I'd
ask you experts
first.
Thanks!
-sankar
'97 VR4
Mods: K&N FIPK, RS*R
downsprings, SS brake lines, Porterfield Rotors and R4S
brake pads in front,
SpeedBleeder, weatherstrip airflow mod, Michelin Pilot
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For all you diagnosticians out there, when Sankar and I
were listening to this noise, it was *not* the typical
lifter-tick noise
(which was also present, but at a low
level). This sound *seemed* to be
deeper within the
engine, more-or-less located below the intake plenum,
maybe
more pronounced on the passenger side, and sounded similar
to a
large diesel engine. Certainly not a "normal"
noise.
Would a broken piston wrist pin make a noise like this?
A
bad cam journal?
Rich
-------------------------------------
Yoss
wrote:
>
> Greetings
folks,
> I'm hearing a
rumbling rotary noise coming from behind and below
the
> engine. It's
quite periodic and sounds similar to a diesel
engine.
> I don't hear
this sound while driving, but only when parked
and
> idling.
>
> Before I get this thing
checked at the dealer's tomorrow, I thought
I'd
> ask you experts
first.
>
> Thanks!
> -sankar
> '97 VR4
> Mods:
K&N FIPK, RS*R downsprings, SS brake lines, Porterfield Rotors and
R4S
> brake pads in front, SpeedBleeder, weatherstrip airflow mod,
Michelin Pilot
> XGT Z4 tires.
> --
>
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> --Data, "The Icarus Factor", Stardate
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>
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hey,
I know this has been discussed on this list,
but last night, i opened the
hood of my car, to do some foglight work, and
the negative end of the battery
came of, thus disconecting my battery, and
now, my computer won't let the car
idle, unless the airconditioner is
on.. So, i've been told to let the car
idle for a while, and it will
eventually reset itself, which i have done,
before this time, to it.. Well..
I've been letting my car idle for about an
hour and a half now, and it's
still not wanting to idle with the
airconditioner off, and ideas?
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On the farm lived a chicken and a horse who loved to play
together. One day,
the two were playing together when the horse fell into a
bog and began to
sink. Scared for his life, the horse whinnied for the
chicken to go get the
farmer to go get help! Off the chicken ran, back
to the farm. Arriving, he
searched and searched for the farmer but to no
avail, for he had gone to town
with the only tractor. Running around,
the chicken spied the farmer's new
3000GT VR4. Finding the keys inside, the
chicken sped off with a length of
rope, hoping he still had time to save his
friend's life. Back at the bog,
the horse was surprised, but happy, to see
the chicken arrive in the shiny
B'mer, and managed to get a hold of the loop
of rope the chicken tossed to
him. After tying the other end to the rear
bumper of the farmer's car, the
chicken then drove slowly forward, and with
the aid of the powerful car
rescued the horse! Happy and proud, the chicken
drove the VR4 back to the
farmhouse, and the farmer was none the wiser when
he returned. The friendship
between the two animals was cemented - best
buddies, best pals.
A few weeks later, the chicken fell into a mud pit,
and soon he too, began to
sink, and cried out to the horse to save his life!
The horse thought a
moment, walked over, and straddled the large
puddle. Looking underneath, he
told the chicken to "grab his
thingie" and he would then lift him out of the
pit. The chicken got a
good grip, and the horse pulled him up and out, saving
his life.
The
moral of the story? When you're hung like a horse, you don't need a
3000GT
to pick up chicks.
X
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Can anybody tell me what color Magnecore wires are??? I'm
not into neon and
stuff, i just want black. Is that possible?
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Mine are red. Not sure if they are
available in black.
Oskar
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>Can anybody tell me what
color Magnecore wires are??? I'm not into neon and
>stuff, i just want
black. Is that possible? Thanks
>
>Wayne
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> Well.. I've been letting my car idle for about an
> hour and a half now, and it's still not wanting to
> idle
with the airconditioner off, and ideas?
Might pay to check the MAS
connection, as this can
come loose and cause problems. Also check the
y-pipe
connection as when this comes off/loose it will cause
problems
idling.
You may like to also adjust the idle speed (see site
at
http://beam.to/GTO_Manual), but this is probably not
an issue in your
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Mine are orange/red in color. Do
not know if other colors are available.
Jeffrey
92
RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>Can anybody tell me what
color Magnecore wires are??? I'm not into neon and
>stuff, i just want
black. Is that possible? Thanks
>
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Magnecor's Home page is at
http://www.magnecor.com/
The Race wires are Red, and the Conventional
High
Performance wires are dark green/black. You can
have a look at
some pictures of their products
at
http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/Products.htm
Cheers,
Kevin
Clark
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Orange is what they sent me direct from the factory. They
didn't give me a
color choice.
Looking forward...Chris
1995
Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, TEC 15G turbos, bored
and
polished throttle body, RC 560cc injectors, HKS fuel pump, GReddy PRofec
A
boost controller, G-force ECU upgrade, HKS SBOV, custom
intercoolers,
Predator dry cell battery, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, NGK double
platinum plugs
gapped at .030", ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy
catback exhaust, GReddy
turbo timer, Eibach 1" drop progressive
springs)
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Can
anybody tell me what color Magnecore wires are??? I'm not into neon
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Wayne
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wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
> xwing
wrote:
> > MAYBE everybody else's cats but mine are all in perfect
shape; MAYBE
> > some people's are only PARTLY plugged up, and they are
wandering around
> > WONDERING WHY their car just isn't QUITE as fast
as some of those others
> > Any restriction to a properly tuned turbo's
exhaust costs performance/spoolup.
>
> Jack... I agree with you
here...any restriction to a properly tuned turbo's exhaust is a
> problem.
But, the stock system,
> if operating properly, is properly tuned.
Gutting
> and a test pipe are cheapest solution in this case and will in
all likelihood give a seat of the
> pants performance boost when compared
to blocked exhaust performance which was occurring prior
> to this.
However, if the stock system is operating as it should, gutting may find results
that
> are a lot less than what were anticipated, including lower end bog.
It also will create the
> Emissions Inspection problem noted earlier which
can be a major hassle for someone who did not
> consider the ramifications
of it. If the car is being prepped for the track, then I am with
you
> a 100% on gutting the stock system, adding downpipes, test pipe, and
replacing it from the cats
> back . My advise: follow Jack's if
you're into
> major mods and/or track use...follow mine if you've modest
mods and using it for a daily driver.
> Darc
Sounds like we
agree! ExCellEnt!
Jack T.
Member
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I found gutting the cats made a big difference in my
car's performance, =
a '92 stealth tt. The car spools up quicker and
definitely pulls much =
harder on the top end. Also the exhaust note, stock
system, now sounds =
mean and switching to the tour mode is now a noticeable
noise reduction =
where before I could hardly tell when it was activated. I
wasn't able to =
do measured performance before and after due to prior to
gutting I had a =
bad 2nd synchro, but trust me the car is much more
responsive now.
I have 2 modded dsm's so I know a little about modding turbo
cars and =
anything you can do to free up the exhaust helps, period! I could
see =
how the stock cat-back might not be restrictive, but the stock downpipe
=
is a joke. Small piping and 90* bends, I can't believe an aftermarket dp
=
wouldn't help here. To give you an idea how a good flowing exhaust helps
=
a turbo car consider this. On my talon, running 16g full 3" exhaust, I
=
run 18lbs of boost on the street. Replacing the 3" exhaust with the
=
stock system, 2" w/ cat, boost dropped to 14lbs and full boost was
=
achieved 350rpms later. Btw fuel economy dropped 4mpg with the stock
=
exhaust on. Granted a dsm exhaust is probably more restrictive than the
=
3000 but it shows what a good exhaust gives you with a turbo car,
=
increased power, quicker spool up which more than makes up for any low
=
rpm torque loss, increased fuel economy. The power increase, which comes
=
from the engine breathing easier, hence working easier, also has the
=
benefit of longer life for your engine.=20
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To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gutting
out cats
However, gutting cats on an essentially stock
vehicle (stock
turbos, stock injectors) is foolish and will likely net =
you more
problems
than you want (Immissions Inspections) ofr marginal to negliable top
end =
performance,
and poorer bottom end. The same holds true for
the cat back =
system...for performance
your bucks are better spent
elsewhere. Unless you're going to go wild =
and hairy with
fuel and
turbos, leave the cats alone. Replacing them after the fact can =
be
veeeery
expensive.
Best
Darc
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I finaly got my exhhaust dropped.....and gutted the front
pre-cat. I'll do
the rear in the morning. Let me tell
everyone!!! I used a can of stuff
called PB blaster....it's or
seized nuts and bolts....and it did the trick.
Now I still had
to put some muscle behind the work....I used my legs to pop
em loose... but
It beat paying a shop to torch em loose!! This PB blaster is
highly
effective in loosening seized or rusted nuts and bolts. Oh...I need no
new
gaskets....studs....or nuts.....they are all in good workable and
re-usable
condition. Another thing....my little trick on the pre-cat was to
drill around the edges first...and chop it all up after it was seperated
from
the housing. So far so good. I cranked the car up and it
sounds tacky but
mean as hell with no exhaust hooked
up!!! I feel alot better right now.
Any word
on whether or not I should go ahead and gut the main CAT?? Is
it
a good idea or not? I have no mods. All stock
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> Might pay to check the MAS connection, as this
can
> come loose and cause problems. Also check the y-pipe
>
connection as when this comes off/loose it will cause
> problems
idling.
Unfortunately, this will not help as the car would also not run
with the A/C on
if the MAS not properly connected (my own
experience)
The best is always to drive the car and not only let it sit
at idle ! The ECU
has to relearn from idle up to the midrange rpm and under
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> ... but the stock downpipe is a joke. Small piping
and 90* bends, I can't
> believe an aftermarket dp wouldn't help
here.
It looks funny and theoretically doesn't work well but it does.
Remember the
rear bank is only a 3-cylinder 1.5 liter engine part and the
exhaust flow is not
that big.
> On my talon, running 16g full
3" exhaust, I run 18lbs of boost on the street.
16G, this is the
keyword here ! With our 2 9B (or 13Gs) running 15 psi the
exhaust (without
the cats) is no restriction. This is fact ! Going for bigger
turbos and
improving the fuel system will then need a better exhaust for sure.
>
Granted a dsm exhaust is probably more restrictive than the 3000 but it
>
shows what a good exhaust gives you with a turbo car, increased power,
>
quicker spool up which more than makes up for any low rpm torque loss,
>
increased fuel economy.
No offend broh, but you suggest that a
"better exhaust" (what is a better
exhaust ?) will help on these
issues for sure. This is not really true and it is
important to say "may
gives you more power". The dyno showed that the car with
the stock
exhaust had more torque in the lower rpm area as well as he peaked out
the
highest hp rate. My figures would maybe be higher (with 13Gs) with the
car
properly tuned in but the winter tires almost glow up on the dyno. There
was
absolutely no advantage on the cars with the exhaust mods and the higher
torque
curve in the midrange is due to the 13Gs.
> The power
increase, which comes from the engine breathing easier, hence
> working
easier, also has the benefit of longer life for your engine.
This are
benefits that come from physical explainable issues, like temperature
drop,
pressure drop. But you then run on 18psi compared to 16 psi and I doubt
that
this will give you a longer engine live.
Nevertheless, I hope to put the
car onto the dyno with removed pre-cats
sometimes this year so we'll be able
to see real
figures.
Regards,
Roger
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>>4. This will sound strange; the belt is too limp.
Pull it all the way
>>out and iron it, yes iron it with some starch at
the Nylon setting on
>>the iron so you don't melt it. It is so limp
that it folds and and
>>wrinkles so it binds and won't
retract.
No offence, but I'd rather NOT do that !!!
If you're off
by a couple degree, and even if it's NOT visible,
you'll start to change the
fabric capability to expand, thus
seriously limiting the effectiveness of the
belt in case of a crash.
That's for the SAME reason that a belt being
used in an accident MUST be
replaced. When the belt locks, it'll heat at the
shoulder contact point,
and the belt will perform nicely...once...second
time, the belt may
really be "cut here"....and yes, Police and
insurances companies know
about it, and they DO check
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Subject: Team3S: Other
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:09:56 -0700
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Ok guys, my 92 RT/TT-S is still stock (so far), have about
60.000 kms
(40kmi), and I have the following problems..
Car is
stumbling under acceleration, quite a lot of hesitation until I go
WOT...then
it runs great.
Check everything in there, and it seems that Magnecore and
regappingthe
plugs might be the answer, but I'm not the expert. I already got
the plug
wire, and I'm waiting for the plugs and plenum gasket to become
available at
my nearest mitsu dealer (special order here, you guys living in
the USA do
not realize how lucky you are)...and yup, _I_ had to tell the
dealer about
the correct plug number.
The tranny (5 gear) is more and
more, crunchy (and NOT, it's NOT me). Even
if I clutch in all the way to the
floor, I can still feel the gears
contacting (probably 2nd and 3rd synchro
start to go south, maybe 4th as
well). The clutch by itself is still in good
condition, i.e not slipping.
And yup, I'm in the Turbo Clutch
G.P.
Under WOT, in 2nd and 3rd, I have a wooshing (try to describe a
sound with
words), as if something is slipping, from the BACK of the car...
Any idea...
The car is still covered by an extended warranty (that's why
my timer and
DBSC is still in the box)
Option number one.
I fix
my hesitation problem alone (using the wires and regapped plugs)
When the
clutch is there, I change it, and look at the tranny, and put
Redline in
there.
Option number Two
I complain about the car, and have the
work done on the car, tell the
mechanic what to do (i.e. correct gap, made
him install the wires, install
the new clutch, fix the grind, and put new
tranny oil in
there)...._PROVIDED_ the problems are important enough to be
considered
"warranty".....do you think they are.
I certainly
do NOT want to have the warranty expire, just to run into
SERIOUS
problems.
Another problem I have is that the "best" mitsu
dealership in my area do NOT
know the car very well. In fact, even if they
have a couple (like in TWO)
3000-GT, they NEVER changed the plugs in a 3-S
(8-o(.
Best
Henri
PS: My car is an US-IMPORTED
RT/TT...is there any US-RECALL I should have
performed on the car at the same
time ???
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We use a product at work called Kroil
(www.kanolabs.com) It works like
nothing I have ever used before.
It's amazing, I have never had a bolt snap
off when using this
product. Also a good tip is to rap on the nut you are
trying to
loosen with a hammer after you spray your penetrant. This helps
the
solvent creep into the cracks. I recently did an exhaust system on
a
Honda and the shop that worked on it last time just welded the
nuts
attaching the converter to the main pipe. Made my day just a
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Date:
Friday, May 14, 1999 5:41 AM
Subject: Team3S: PB blaster saves the day on
CATS!!
>I finaly got my exhhaust dropped.....and gutted the front
pre-cat. I'll do
>the rear in the morning. Let me tell
everyone!!! I used a can of stuff
>called PB blaster....it's
or seized nuts and bolts....and it did the
trick.
> Now I still
had to put some muscle behind the work....I used my legs to
pop
>em
loose... but It beat paying a shop to torch em loose!! This PB
blaster
is
>highly effective in loosening seized or rusted nuts and
bolts. Oh...I need
no
>new gaskets....studs....or nuts.....they are all
in good workable and
>re-usable condition. Another thing....my
little trick on the pre-cat was
to
>drill around the edges first...and
chop it all up after it was seperated
from
>the housing. So far
so good. I cranked the car up and it sounds tacky but
>mean as
hell with no exhaust hooked up!!! I feel alot
better right
now.
>Any word on whether or not I should go ahead
and gut the main CAT?? Is
it
>a good idea or not? I
have no mods. All stock here.
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You still need to use new nuts. They are self locking nuts
that once used,
expand to a point where they no longer retain they're locking
properties.
If you took one of your old ones and a new one, and screwed them
both onto
a stud you will see that the old one will go on much easier.
Another thing
is, they don't need to be torqued down more than 30 ft-lbs or
so (the book
will tell you how much) I'm thinking this may be part of the
reason they
were so hard to remove, because the last person to tighten them
did so with
an impact wrench to about 100 ft-lbs.
Wayne
At
03:37 AM 5/14/99 , you wrote:
>Oh...I need no
>new
gaskets....studs....or nuts.....they are all in good workable and
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Henri:
>Option number one.
>
>I fix
my hesitation problem alone (using the wires and regapped
>plugs)
Do this yourself and be sure it's done right. This
will make a hugs
difference. Do this ASAP.
>When the clutch
is there, I change it, and look at the tranny, and
>put
>Redline in
there.
I'd recommend using Redline Shock Proof Heavy in the transfer case
for
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the
transaxle, and personally prefer GM SynchroMesh.
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From:
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=20
16G, this is the keyword here ! With our 2 9B (or
13Gs) running 15 psi =
the
exhaust (without the cats) is no restriction.
This is fact ! Going for =
bigger
turbos and improving the fuel system
will then need a better exhaust for =
sure.
Yeah, good point, with the
stock turbos maybe they just can't flow =
enough air to take advantage of a
freer flowing exhaust system, but =
gutting the cats definitely made a seat
of the pants improvement for me. =
I would like to see if there's a
difference above 15 psi, like at 18 or =
20.
=20
No offend broh, but
you suggest that a "better exhaust" (what is a =
better
exhaust
?) will help on these issues for sure. This is not really true =
and it
is
important to say "may gives you more power". The dyno showed
that the =
car with
the stock exhaust had more torque in the lower rpm
area as well as he =
peaked out
the highest hp rate. My figures
would maybe be higher (with 13Gs) with =
the car
properly tuned in but the
winter tires almost glow up on the dyno. There =
was
absolutely no
advantage on the cars with the exhaust mods and the higher =
torque
curve
in the midrange is due to the 13Gs.
By better exhaust I mean freer
flowing exhaust, less restriction being =
the key here. I think to get really
good info on mod improvement its =
best to be using the same car. There might
be a lot of other variables =
between cars to try to compare the hp of 1
verses another. It would be =
best to perform the mods on 1 car and record
the changes back to back.=20
I haven't seen a loss in low end torque in the
dsm's from bigger =
exhausts, I believe its better, but maybe its because the
stock turbo's =
in the dsm flow better than the 3000's. I can believe the
stock 3000 =
exhaust is not that restrictive from the cat back, it looks
pretty good, =
I have a problem with the looks of the dp, there has to be
improvement =
available there.
This are benefits that come from
physical explainable issues, like =
temperature
drop, pressure drop. But
you then run on 18psi compared to 16 psi and I =
doubt
that this will give
you a longer engine live.
I agree, what I was trying to convey is an
easier working engine will =
last longer, an engine is an air pump, the
easier you can get air in and =
out the more power you'll make or have the
ability to make.
Nevertheless, I hope to put the car onto the dyno with
removed pre-cats
sometimes this year so we'll be able to see real
figures.
Now that would be interesting, and it could be that the precats
=
prevented you from seeing any benefit of the dp, or maybe the
=
aftermarket dp is just not an improvement over stock, design
wise.
Bryan
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Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake =
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All this talk about 60k service
and complaints about the quality and price of
work performed at dealerships
has got me thinking..........what if i offered a
60k service at a good price,
would anybody be willing to travel to Memphis to
have it done? The advantage
to having me do it is, unlike the dealers, i take
pride in my work and take
my time to do it right. I have 10 years experience
working on Mitsubishi's,
starting with Starions, moving on to DSM's, and now
3/S's. Here's a run down
of what you would get, and the price;
PARTS REPLACED:
Timing
belt
Tensioner
Water Pump
Drive belts
Spark plugs
Air
filter
Oil filter
FLUIDS CHANGED:
Oil
Trans fluid
X-fer
case
Rear diff
PARTS INSPECTED:
Brake pads
CV Boots
Steering
rack seals
Ball joints
Hoses
TRAVEL TIME:
Chicago - 8
hours
ST. Louis - 4 hours
Atlanta - 6 hours
PRICE: $750
As an
added bonus, the car will be clean when you get it back...........
Wayne
Hietala
901-363-3197
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All this talk
about 60k service and complaints about the quality and
price of work
performed at dealerships has got me thinking..........what
if i offered a 60k
service at a good price, would anybody be willing to
travel to Memphis to
have it done? The advantage to having me do it is,
unlike the dealers, i take
pride in my work and take my time to do it
right. I have 10 years experience
working on Mitsubishi's, starting with
Starions, moving on to DSM's, and now
3/S's. Here's a run down of what
you would get, and the
price;<br>
<br>
<u>PARTS
REPLACED:<br>
</u>Timing
belt<br>
Tensioner<br>
Water Pump<br>
Drive
belts<br>
Spark plugs<br>
Air filter<br>
Oil
filter<br>
<br>
<u>FLUIDS
CHANGED:<br>
</u>Oil<br>
Trans fluid<br>
X-fer
case<br>
Rear diff<br>
<br>
<u>PARTS
INSPECTED:<br>
</u>Brake pads<br>
CV
Boots<br>
Steering rack seals<br>
Ball
joints<br>
Hoses<br>
<br>
<u>TRAVEL
TIME:<br>
</u>Chicago - 8 hours<br>
ST. Louis - 4
hours<br>
Atlanta - 6
hours<br>
<br>
<u>PRICE:</u> $750<br>
As
an added bonus, the car will be clean when you get
it
back...........<br>
<br>
Wayne
Hietala<br>
901-363-3197<br>
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Hi Henri;
Change the plugs and wires yourself and
it should take care of the hesitation, no
problem. I'd also be tempted to do
the tranny fluid change myself as well and see if it
makes a difference. You
never know, it could be a bit low. But, before this it might
also be prudent
to take it into Mitsu and take them for a test drive to illustrate
the
problem. They may try to say it's not enough of a problem yet for
warranty work, but at
least this way you start the documentation process
(have them record your complaintand
the symptoms) of a tranny starting to go
south.
Best
Darc
Genesiscon Lehir wrote:
> Ok
guys, my 92 RT/TT-S is still stock (so far), have about 60.000 kms
>
(40kmi), and I have the following problems..
>
> Car is
stumbling under acceleration, quite a lot of hesitation until I go
>
WOT...then it runs great.
>
> Check everything in there, and it
seems that Magnecore and regappingthe
> plugs might be the answer, but I'm
not the expert. I already got the plug
> wire, and I'm waiting for the
plugs and plenum gasket to become available at
> my nearest mitsu dealer
(special order here, you guys living in the USA do
> not realize how lucky
you are)...and yup, _I_ had to tell the dealer about
> the correct plug
number.
>
> The tranny (5 gear) is more and more, crunchy (and NOT,
it's NOT me). Even
> if I clutch in all the way to the floor, I can still
feel the gears
> contacting (probably 2nd and 3rd synchro start to go
south, maybe 4th as
> well). The clutch by itself is still in good
condition, i.e not slipping.
> And yup, I'm in the Turbo Clutch
G.P.
>
> Under WOT, in 2nd and 3rd, I have a wooshing (try to
describe a sound with
> words), as if something is slipping, from the BACK
of the car... Any idea...
>
> The car is still covered by an
extended warranty (that's why my timer and
> DBSC is still in the
box)
>
> Option number one.
>
> I fix my hesitation
problem alone (using the wires and regapped plugs)
> When the clutch is
there, I change it, and look at the tranny, and put
> Redline in
there.
>
> Option number Two
>
> I complain about the
car, and have the work done on the car, tell the
> mechanic what to do
(i.e. correct gap, made him install the wires, install
> the new clutch,
fix the grind, and put new tranny oil in
> there)...._PROVIDED_ the
problems are important enough to be considered
>
"warranty".....do you think they are.
>
> I certainly do
NOT want to have the warranty expire, just to run into
> SERIOUS
problems.
>
> Another problem I have is that the "best"
mitsu dealership in my area do NOT
> know the car very well. In fact, even
if they have a couple (like in TWO)
> 3000-GT, they NEVER changed the
plugs in a 3-S (8-o(.
>
> Best
>
> Henri
>
>
PS: My car is an US-IMPORTED RT/TT...is there any US-RECALL I should
have
> performed on the car at the same time ???
>
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I'm thinking about installing a boost
gauge on the A-pillar using the pods
that are available from a number of
places. My question is, how much extra
work is involved by mounting on the
pillar? Anyone here done it ? Let me
know your
experiences.
Thanks,
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For those of you who wish they did not
have antilock brakes here is how you
do it!!!
Send me your ABS pump
motor located under the passenger side fender. Easy as
that!
My motor is
toast due to water getting in through the bolt..totally rusted
and the
magnets are loose.
Mitsu wants $2600 for this motor.
It goes with
out speaking that i will be without ABS for some time...
Any ideas for
replacement? another company? any thing made in the
US.?
Rebuildable?
I will be looking at junkyards...do these guys
know what this part is worth?
Any other cars use this part so i can get
it with out the stigma of the
"sports Car" setback?
The car has
69k miles so I do not belive i can yell at mitsu...
I will be talking to the
dealer i bought me car off of lease from.
Any Help out there for
this?
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>It goes with out speaking that i will be without ABS
for some time...
I could be wrong, but I think emission and
safety-related items are covered
under a different warranty.
It may
actually be covered by Mitsu. I doesn't hurt to ask.
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> I could be wrong, but I think emission and
safety-related items are covered
> under a different warranty.
> It
may actually be covered by Mitsu. I doesn't hurt to ask.
Same here
in Europe. Mitsu did the replacing of the two G-sensors in the fenders
on
"good will" a year ago. Zero cost for me.
I think you should
have to contact another dealer as I'm sure that the price you
were given is
absolutely stupid. Try to contact Conicelli Mitsubishi(800)
892-8994
(DSMDealer@aol.com) and, isf possible, give them the part number for
the
quote. Just make sure it is only the pump as the ABS ECU could also
be
included.
Hope this
helps,
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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I'm just painted the dual pod gauge holder from Autometer
to fit the greyish
interior. The pod fits very good and is usally mounted
with the delivered
plastic screws (or push ins). This doesn't look good and
due to the good
fittment I'm gonna use a small dual side adhessive tape (used
to stick carpets
to the ground)
Depending on what gauges you want you
have to route the wires/hoses somewhere.
This can be done by drilling holes
into the a pillar cover. But this is not what
I wanted to do.
The dual
pod I have can be mounted pretty low, i.e. close fit to the
dashboard.
Mounted this way, it should be possible to drill a hole close to
the top of the
ventilation port on the left side and route them trough the
slit between
dashboard an a-pillar to the new hole.
There are others
on the list (like Mike in Germany) who have done this already
and it looked
great.
> '93 Zurich white 3000GT
VR-4
^^^^^^
I like this, hehe
:)
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Henri,
> Car is stumbling under acceleration,
quite a lot of hesitation until I go
> WOT...then it runs great.
-
Running a can of injector cleaner may help (it did on mine)
- wires
- fuel
filter
- fuel pump resistor/relay
- at 90'000km the big-big service should
be done (Mitsu replaced the water pump
and tensioner pulley as well)
- not
sure about regapping as you are still running stock boost levels (do
you
?)
- how's the milage (mine is between 12-14l/100km)
> wire,
and I'm waiting for the plugs and plenum gasket to become available at
>
my nearest mitsu dealer (special order here, you guys living in the USA
do
> not realize how lucky you are)...and yup, _I_ had to tell the dealer
about
> the correct plug number.
Henri, you have my number ! I'm 10
minutes away from Mitsu headquarter. They do
have almost everything in
stock.
> The tranny (5 gear) is more and more, crunchy (and NOT, it's
NOT me).
Our trannies are somewhat crunchy. Compared to the 200SX and
300ZX (three times)
I drove the difference is very noticeable (i.e. much
better on teh Nissans). The
mechanic just would say that this is normal
:/
> Under WOT, in 2nd and 3rd, I have a wooshing (try to describe a
sound with
> words), as if something is slipping, from the BACK of the
car... Any idea...
Pfhhu, try to drive with a friend in the car listening
to the sound. I also
though it is comming from the back but finally it was
the noise from the air
filter box :)
> The car is still covered by
an extended warranty (that's why my timer and
> DBSC is still in the
box)
You know our dealers and they will say that all this stuff is pretty
normal for
this car with the amount of km and even more that it is an
imported one. The
most important one is the tranny and I don't know if Mitsu
will do the work on
the Stealths. The headquarter garage in Winterthur
already had some 3000GT from
the States and they have three people who know
the cars (plus me, haha)
> I fix my hesitation problem alone (using
the wires and regapped plugs)
Sure, plugs and wires are not a big
deal.
> When the clutch is there, I change it, and look at the tranny,
and put
> Redline in there.
Check the oil in the tranny at first.
Especially look for any metallic
praticles.
> I complain about the
car, and have the work done on the car, tell the
> mechanic what to do
(i.e. correct gap, made him install the wires, install
> the new clutch,
fix the grind, and put new tranny oil in
> there)...._PROVIDED_ the
problems are important enough to be considered
>
"warranty".....do you think they are.
As mentioned, they will
probably say that this is quite normal. They probably
will do the the oil
stuff (but using what oil ?) but not the plugs/wires as they
don't know how
to do it. And I wouldn't feel good if anyone touches the car who
never say a
manual !
> I certainly do NOT want to have the warranty expire, just
to run into
> SERIOUS problems.
Agreed. Try what you can do and
complain about both the problems (hesitation and
tranny) If you're in my area
let me know and we can compare the cars.
> PS: My car is an
US-IMPORTED RT/TT...is there any US-RECALL I should have
> performed on
the car at the same time ???
Yes, there was a brake line TSB. Not a big
deal and they did it because I knew
about it and told them to do
:)
Good luck and let us know the
outcome
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Roger
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> You still need to use new nuts. They are self locking
nuts that once used,
> expand to a point where they no longer retain
they're locking properties.
I have and never had any problems reusing it.
Also the Mitsu dealer reuses them
if they are not damaged due to taking them
off the hard way (and they try to
sell you everything). No problems if
everything looks good.
> If you took one of your old ones and a new
one, and screwed them both onto
> a stud you will see that the old one
will go on much easier.
Yes,due to the temperature expansion.No new ones
really needed, just luxury
:)
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For the boost gauge, do you have to run a vacuum
hose all the way into the passenger
compartment, up to the gage, or is there
a remote sending unit?
"R.G." wrote:
> I'm just
painted the dual pod gauge holder from Autometer to fit the greyish
>
interior. The pod fits very good and is usally mounted with the
delivered
> plastic screws (or push ins). This doesn't look good and due
to the good
> fittment I'm gonna use a small dual side adhessive tape
(used to stick carpets
> to the ground)
>
> Depending on what
gauges you want you have to route the wires/hoses somewhere.
> This can be
done by drilling holes into the a pillar cover. But this is not what
> I
wanted to do.
>
> The dual pod I have can be mounted pretty low,
i.e. close fit to the dashboard.
> Mounted this way, it should be possible
to drill a hole close to the top of the
> ventilation port on the left
side and route them trough the slit between
> dashboard an a-pillar to the
new hole.
>
> There are others on the list (like Mike in Germany)
who have done this already
> and it looked great.
>
> > '93
Zurich white 3000GT VR-4
>
^^^^^^
> I like this, hehe :)
>
> Regards,
>
Roger
>
> -----------------------
> Roger Gerl,
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> 93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
>
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Which kind of self-locking nuts are we talking about
here? Nylon/plastic
insert, interference threads, etc? That makes
a HUGE difference on
whether they are reusable or not.
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>
> expand to a point where they no longer retain they're locking
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>
> I have and never had any problems reusing it. Also
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> if they are not damaged due to taking them
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> sell you everything). No problems if
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> For the boost gauge, do you have to run a vacuum hose
all the way into the passenger
> compartment, up to the gage, or is there
a remote sending unit?
This depends if you have a mechanic or electronic
boost gauge. But also
electronic bosot gauges do have the boost sensing
device mounted internally
(like the Blitz DSBC). The AutoMeter 30-30 boost
gauge is mechanic and uses a
very small tube to sense boost.
//
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> Which kind of self-locking nuts are we talking about
here? Nylon/plastic
> insert, interference threads, etc? That
makes a HUGE difference on
> whether they are reusable or not.
No
plastic nor nylon. The nuts do have a small flange that slightly compress
the
nut when tightened. That's why reusing them is no problem. The nuts used
on the
cat have a small interference to prevent from getting loose.
//
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Roger and all,
None of the two cars is using a cat. and
the one with more mods AND more
boost is still falling behind with the gutted
pre cats and downpipe. So
far both cars have pretty safe EGT's.
That is why in my experiences
gutted pre cats and a downpipe do not help 1/4
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Okay....there is a silverish line that connects to the oil
pan near the
starter. It has been leaking....so i replaced the
gasket....but it is still
leaking through the gasket. Any Ideas
on how to stop this?? should I try
two gaskets??
Oh.....when the oil leaks...it runs down and gets on my
exhaust....so
that is were the steam has been coming from. The oil was
burning off
the hot exhaust....but I guess at a slow enough rate to make the
steam not
to black. This leak is pretty bad.....I lost like a quarter of a
quart
of oil in like two days of not much driving. I finally got my
pre-cats gutted!!! But I need to solve this problem before I can
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MitsuVR41...(who are you anyway masked man?)
The
new gasket leaked ? Hmmm...doubling up may or may not solve it... likely not if
you
use the old new gasket and another new one. Better to try doing it again
and cleaning
the surfaces real well, then use some gasket spray with a single
new gasket. The tacky
spray (a thin layer) should seal it well and
solve the problem.
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there was a post sometime back about
someone building a custom intake
plenium, i think it was brad,but i just
wondered if they had allready
built it. and if so, how well does it work? i
also like the idea of
another throttle body, has anyone tried this mod yet?
just curious.
chris
hill
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Good you found the cause for the steam !
>
Okay....there is a silverish line that connects to the oil pan near the
>
starter. It has been leaking....so i replaced the gasket....but it is
still
You are refering to the front turbo return line, right ? Where was
it leaking,
at the turbo or the oil pan ?
A problem could be that the
line is bent a little as this can happen due to
removing the front turbo. My
advise is to remove the bolts at the oil pan and
check how good it fits. Also
remove the line at the turbo and check for fitting.
Check the surface of both
flanges as well as at the turbo and the oil pan and
finally follow the advice
from Darc on mounting the new gaskets (hope you have
the right
ones).
> steam not to black. This leak is pretty bad.....I lost
like a quarter of a
> quart of oil in like two days of not much
driving.
... and you have the cause for the somewhat low oil-pressure as
well.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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Dal,
> None of the two cars is using a
cat.
So you say that both cars do have gutted pre-cats and no main cat ??
In your
earlier post I though you said that you have still a stock exhaust ?
Please
clarify.
> and the one with more mods AND more boost is
still falling behind with the
> gutted pre cats and downpipe. So far
both cars have pretty safe EGT's.
> That is why in my experiences gutted
pre cats and a downpipe do not help
> 1/4 mile times much with stock
turbos.
I agree (if your exhaust is different), as this proves the dyno
results of three
cars ! I just hoped that the gutted precats would help more
than the rest so the
question is if your friends car is healthy enough to be
compared to yours ?
Would it be possible to exchange the front exhaust parts
(front
pre-cat/dp/testpipe) and do a retest again ?
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other car has many more mods than yours. Can you please give us
some details
on these mods ?
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> silver
line connects to oil pan near starter leaking. I replaced gasket but
it
> still
> leaking through gasket. Ideas how to stop?
should I try
> two gaskets? leak is pretty bad, I lost quarter
of a quart in two days.
Unbolt it again. Take off "new"
gasket. Get ONLY Permatex "Ultra Blue" gasket
sealant
stuff. Clean off the pan side, the pipe side as well as possible and
make
sure there is no more of the OLD gasket PARTLY still there making a
ledge
that won't seal. Coat the pipe side, the gasket both sides, and
the pan face with
thin coat of Ultra Blue. Attach pipe again with
moderate tight bolts (not SUPERtight,
will
distort pan/flange and sqeeze
out too much UltraBlue.)
This should work WELL. UltraBlue can even
seal if both surfaces have a little oil on
them...
Hope this
helps!
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Hi all,
It's great to be back on a 3Si mailing
list! Unfortunately, I am
the one who has recently experienced a
Voided/Nulled warranty on my
transmission (some of you already are aware of
my situation - Thank you for
your support!). To make a real long
story short (Believe it or not), I was
DENIED a new transmission by
Mitsubishi and got "Black listed" due to my
GReddy aftermarket
part. I know! Why didn't I take the aftermarket part OUT
before
I turned my car in? Well, they already saw my car and approved it
even
with my aftermarket GReddy part in it & scheduled an appointment to get
the job done under warranty! But, unfortunately the District manager
was on
the premises on the day that I brought the car in for the
tranny. They page
me within 45 minutes and stated, "Your car has
been altered by an
after-market part; that voids and Nulls any warranty you
have on your VR4. I
did not know that about your car when you came to
us last week"; Yeah
right!? They physically SAW the
car! This Service manager stated to me that
he even documented my vin#
in Mitsubishi's system that my car was "altered &
modified". Meaning that no other Mitsubishi dealership would
honor any
warranty transmission. In other words, he "black
balled" (service manager's
own words) me!
I am
currently working on several options & ideas to pursue the
matter;
I have all documentations needed to make a good case! The thing is
that I had tranny problems before the mods were put on (thank God, I have
documentations from the Mitsu. dealership that I tried to confirm the
problems but they denied any "faults" in the tranny). I'll
try to keep you
all posted. If my plans work out, it will be
advantageous for all of us on
this list! But in the meantime, I have
to look into alternative plans &
ideas. I have a few
questions that I need to ask you all.
My questions are:
1) Is there any way to install another type of transmission
into a 1st.
generation
VR4? Such as installing a 4th.
generation Twin Turbo Supra six
speed trans? I
believe the Supra
transmission is also made by Getrag. What
alterations would I
have
to perform to the Supra trans. (rear wheel drive) to comply with
my AWD set
up?
2) Does anyone have the phone # to Getrag (Germany); or website or
email?
3) I believe there was someone on the starnet list that was able
to take
apart our transmissions and was working on getting new parts from
Getrag! Who was that? Was that Jack Tertadian (ooopss, I hope I
spelled his name right!)? Does
anyone know how to contact
him?
4) Has anyone upgraded their 1st. Generation 5 speed 3Si to a Getrag 3Si
6 speed? If so, have you experienced any problems? I am aware of
the
following: Thanks to Arty!
Transmission:
W6mg1: MB896324
Transfer
case:
MB896326
Rear end
Gears:
MB185450 (3.307 gears, may need some sort
of shim pack,
depending on how to properly set the ring & pinion gears up)
DriveShaft
assembly: MR111394
You can either buy a new one, or
have yours lengthened about an inch (measure
Before you send it to a
driveshaft shop)
To make the install
"right"
Add these part #'s
Shifter
Cables:
MR102669
Those of you with the 91-93.4 cars:
Shifter
lever:
911854
Pivot:
911858
Thank you all in advance,
I truly appeciate all the support I
have received from some of you via
private emails. (since the list was down,
I had no access to our 3Si mailing
list - But it's great to finally be back
on!).
Ahmed.
'92 VR4 (right now I'm too depressed about listing
all my mods due to the
fact that it cost me a warrantied tranny to be
DENIED).
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Are you sure it's leaking at the gasket contact
area or could it be a
crack at the flange? If the return line tubing has been
vibrating or
bumped if could have created a fine crack that allows the
pressurized
oil to leak and look like a bad gasket seal. Clean it and see if
you
can see if the actual leak is where the tubing meets the
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I am curious what you guys feel is the best clutch for a
car with a borla
exhaust, hks intake and hks boost controller. I know
the stock isn't the
best but what would be good for the car with those
mods? Also what is the
usual price for putting a new clutch in, I know
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someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting
in a corvette 6
spd.
>1) Is there any way to install
another type of transmission into a
>1st. >generation >
VR4? Such as installing a 4th. generation Twin
Turbo Supra
>six >speed trans? I > believe the Supra transmission is also
made by
Getrag. What >alterations would I > have to perform to
the Supra trans.
(rear wheel drive) to >comply with >my AWD set
up?
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Hi Joshua;
It depends how hard you are on your
clutch/what you use it for. I know individuals with
the same setup/similar
setup to yours, who opt for the stock clutch as a replacement, as
it is more
forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver basis. On the other hand,
a
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and a number of
use within Team
3S, just finished with a group purchase for a new
carbon fiber clutch, but it is still
too early for any of us to give
feedback. Most, if not all of us, have not received
it
yet.
Best
Darc
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Ahmed;
In response to your questions;
1). I
haven't heard of anyone installing another breed of tranny in our
vehicles,
although a 3S in South America appears to likely have some
kind of unusual setup which
has not been thus far described in any literature
I have read.( I believe a picture of
it is at Todd's site.) Just
upgrading from 1st to 2nd generation trannies is expensive
and time
consuming, so I would expect a hybrid project ( possibly like the
South
American) might be a long expensive undertaking.
2-3) No one has
posted any phone number, and Jack's interaction with an unnamed source
for
the one time synchro order he so generously undertook, is likely not to be
ever
disclosed for reasons of confidentiality.
4-6) I believe Brad
(Bedell) has upgraded from a first to second generation
transmission
and his posts on it should be in our archives. There are likely others
as
well, but as he has a small business which devotes itself in part to
3S vehicles, you
might want to contact him.
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back on your success.
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On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone
saying a corvette
gearbox was used. But the person won't say who it was
cause the guy who did
it is apparently talking with the Transmission
shop. He did say it was
around $2500-$3000. I know if mine ever
goes, that's what I am gonna look
into. Screw
Gretag
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Ahmed;
In response to your
questions;
1). I haven't heard of anyone installing another breed
of
tranny in our vehicles,
although a 3S in South America appears to
likely have some
kind of unusual setup which
has not been thus far
described in any literature I have
read.( I believe a picture of
it is at
Todd's site.) Just upgrading from 1st to 2nd
generation trannies is
expensive
and time consuming, so I would expect a hybrid project
(
possibly like the South
American) might be a long expensive
undertaking.
2-3) No one has posted any phone number, and
Jack's
interaction with an unnamed source
for the one time synchro order
he so generously undertook,
is likely not to be ever
disclosed for reasons
of confidentiality.
4-6) I believe Brad (Bedell) has upgraded from a
first to
second generation
transmission and his posts on it should be in
our archives.
There are likely others as
well, but as he has a small
business which devotes itself in
part to 3S vehicles, you
might want to
contact him.
Good luck and post back on your
success.
Best
Darc
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Joshua wrote:
> On the 3si website there
was a discussion of someone saying a corvette
> gearbox was used.
But the person won't say who it was cause the guy who did
> it is
apparently talking with the Transmission shop. He did say it was
>
around $2500-$3000. I know if mine ever goes, that's what I am gonna
look
> into. Screw Gretag
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Well which clutch will last the longest? If I am
gonna change it, I want
something that will last and take a lil abuse.
It isn't gonna be taken to
the track but the occasional race on the street is
possible :-) Thanks for
any input.
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Hi Joshua;
It depends how hard you are on your
clutch/what you use it
for. I know individuals with
the same setup/similar
setup to yours, who opt for the stock
clutch as a replacement, as
it is
more forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver
basis. On the other
hand, a
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and
a
number of use within Team
3S, just finished with a group purchase for a
new carbon
fiber clutch, but it is still
too early for any of us to give
feedback. Most, if not all
of us, have not received
it
yet.
Best
Darc
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David J. mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, but no news
since then. He was hoping the person who was doing this would reveal
themselves. From where David live, in the San Fran eastbay, it probably is
one of the guys up there trying something out.
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>
>
>Joshua
wrote:
>
>> On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone
saying a corvette
>> gearbox was used. But the person won't say
who it was cause the guy who did
>> it is apparently talking with the
Transmission shop. He did say it was
>> around $2500-$3000.
I know if mine ever goes, that's what I am gonna look
>> into.
Screw Gretag
>
>Sounds too good to be true...both the price and the
make...and
>you know what they say about things that sound too good to
be
>true!! However, if you find out more about it in concrete
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>please post back for those who are also weary of the
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I believe he said the guy lives in
Texas.
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David J. mentioned that a couple of weeks ago,
but no news
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would reveal
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>
>
>Joshua wrote:
>
>> On the 3si
website there was a discussion of someone
saying a corvette
>>
gearbox was used. But the person won't say who it was
cause the guy who
did
>> it is apparently talking with the Transmission shop.
He
did say it was
>> around $2500-$3000. I know if mine ever
goes, that's
what I am gonna look
>> into. Screw
Gretag
>
>Sounds too good to be true...both the price and
the
make...and
>you know what they say about things that sound too good
to
be
>true!! However, if you find out more about it in
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>please post back for those who are also weary of the
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>
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>
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I don't know enough about it, I thought maybe one of you
guys might. Sound
interesting
Guys,
I found a water
injection kit. Plus it is less than $200 bucks. Those of
you who have some
expertise on the subject please check it out and advise
the rest of us on
its quality and design.
Follow this
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The Spearco kit is not the greatest. It has a weak
pump and the water
resevoir is kind of cheap. It also has no sight
glass.
Here's a kit that is nearly as inexpensive and far
superior:
http://www.bowlinggreencustoms.com/gncat/gncat.html
There's
also the ERL AquaMist if the pocketbook is feeling particularly
deep.
Just search for ERL and AquaMist and you'll find
it.
Barry
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>
> I don't know enough about it, I thought
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>
> Guys,
>
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All I saw was an alcohol system... was that what you were
talking about??
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found this out
The Spearco kit is not the greatest. It has
a weak pump and
the water
resevoir is kind of cheap. It also has no
sight glass.
Here's a kit that is nearly as inexpensive and far
superior:
http://www.bowlinggreencustoms.com/gncat/gncat.html
There's
also the ERL AquaMist if the pocketbook is
feeling
particularly
deep. Just search for ERL and AquaMist and
you'll find it.
Barry
> -----Original
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>
>
> I don't know enough about it, I thought
maybe one of you
guys
> might. Sound
>
interesting
>
> Guys,
>
> I found a water injection kit.
Plus it is less than $200
bucks. Those of
> you who have some expertise
on the subject please check it
out and advise
> the rest of us on its
quality and design.
>
> Follow
this
url:http://www.cnw.com/%7eredline/waterinjectionkit.htm
>
>
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I was curious how they make the rearview mirrors auto
tinting. I know you
just hit the switch and you can select how deep of
a tint and it changes in
a couple secs. How do they do this? Is
there anyway to do this to the
windows? Here in Pa some of the cops
like busting people for tinted
windows, but if I could make that go away,
really quick, I think it would be
cool. Any ideas? Thanks for any
and all info.
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Joshua,
With that setup, you are
looking at either a stock ($300?) or a Centerforce Dual
Friction ($500 from
NOPI). The stock clutch is cheaper, and does not really have a
break in
period. I personally believe it can take the abuse of a 5000 RPM dump a
lot
better than others. The Centerforce clutch is a little more
expensive, but the clutch
feel is lighter. Also, it is more of an
on/off engagement than the stock clutch.
However, because of this, it does
not handle high RPM DUMPS very well. People who use
this clutch
successfully have learned to let the clutch out easily till it
slightly
engages then as the car JUST starts moving you fully release the
clutch. I believe this
technic and the Centerforce clutch will give you
faster times. However, the biggest
problem with the Centerforce is that
it requires a 500 mile city driving break-in
period. This is a
must. If it is not done and you do a launch before the clutch
material
has been able to cure properly, you will ruin the clutch.
Hope this
helps,
Mike C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT
Joshua
wrote:
> Well which clutch will last the longest? If I am gonna
change it, I want
> something that will last and take a lil abuse.
It isn't gonna be taken to
> the track but the occasional race on the
street is possible :-) Thanks for
> any
input.
>
>
-----Original
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>
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
[mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:09
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>
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>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best
clutch??
>
>
Hi
Joshua;
>
>
It depends how hard you are on your clutch/what you use it
> for. I know
individuals
with
>
the same setup/similar setup to yours, who opt for the stock
> clutch as a
replacement,
as
>
it is more forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver
> basis. On
the other hand,
a
>
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and
> a number of
use within
Team
>
3S, just finished with a group purchase for a new carbon
> fiber
clutch, but it is
still
>
too early for any of us to give feedback. Most, if not all
> of us, have
not received
it
>
yet.
>
>
Best
>
>
Darc
>
>
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Thanks a lot. I am considering the Centerforce
clutch, but I also heard
about the ACT clutch. I was curious if anyone
knew how they compared. Also
is Nexus one of the best places to buy
them?? Thanks
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Joshua,
With that setup, you are looking
at either a stock
($300?) or a Centerforce Dual
Friction ($500 from
NOPI). The stock clutch is cheaper, and
does not really have a
break
in period. I personally believe it can take the abuse
of a 5000 RPM
dump a lot
better than others. The Centerforce clutch is a little
more
expensive, but the clutch
feel is lighter. Also, it is more of
an on/off engagement
than the stock clutch.
However, because of this, it
does not handle high RPM DUMPS
very well. People who use
this clutch
successfully have learned to let the clutch out
easily till it
slightly
engages then as the car JUST starts moving you fully release
the
clutch. I believe this
technic and the Centerforce clutch will give you
faster
times. However, the biggest
problem with the Centerforce is
that it requires a 500 mile
city driving break-in
period. This is a
must. If it is not done and you do a
launch before the
clutch
material has been able to cure properly, you will ruin
the
clutch.
Hope this helps,
Mike C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT
TT
Joshua wrote:
> Well which clutch will last the
longest? If I am gonna
change it, I want
> something that will
last and take a lil abuse. It isn't
gonna be taken to
> the track
but the occasional race on the street is
possible :-) Thanks for
> any
input.
>
>
-----Original
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>
From:
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>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:09
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>
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best
clutch??
>
>
Hi
Joshua;
>
>
It depends how hard you are on your
clutch/what you use it
> for. I
know individuals
with
>
the same setup/similar setup to yours, who
opt for the stock
> clutch
as a replacement,
as
>
it is more forgiving and more accomodating
on a daily driver
> basis.
On the other hand,
a
>
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are
available. I, and
> a number
of use within
Team
>
3S, just finished with a group purchase
for a new carbon
> fiber
clutch, but it is
still
>
too early for any of us to give feedback.
Most, if not all
> of us,
have not received
it
>
yet.
>
>
Best
>
>
Darc
>
>
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page is
>
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> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our
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I have been dealing with Chien for quite some time
now. In my experience he
is both honest and fair and his prices are
reasonable if not great. Vendors
like Nexus should be rewared with
business.
No, I don't get kickbacks.
;)
Barry
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>
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heard
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Well, a side topic but here a small explanation
:
> I was curious how they make the rearview mirrors auto
tinting. I know you
> just hit the switch and you can select how
deep of a tint and it changes in
> a couple secs.
They use a liquid
cristal screen that visibility is controlled by the voltage
given. Just look
at any LCD screen and change the contrast on it. This is the
same technique
used on the rearview mirrors.
> windows? Here in Pa some of the
cops like busting people for tinted
> windows, but if I could make that go
away, really quick, I think it would be
> cool. Any ideas?
No
way to do this with LCD technique. But there is also a paint in
development
that can change its color by applying some voltage. This should
then also work
on windows and some prototyps have been tested in offices to
work like
sunshades. Well, the price is very high and I think not worth
thinking about it
as it is still not in production.
Hope this
helps,
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During my investiogations about WI systems, I also found
those systems and
searched for related articles.
The Spearco WI kit is
a cheap starter kit (somewhat old) for engines with a max
displacement of 2
liters. But even on a Celica GT four the amount of water
delivered last only
for a max boost of around 15-18psi.
The system for the Grand National V6
is bigger and is able to deliver more
water/alcohol but also here boost seems
to be limited due to the pumps power
that is supported by the boost produced
by the turbos. Also the water sprayed in
is not that fine as with the ERL
system due to the smaller pump and the pressure
that
varies.
Unfortunately, the ERL (Aqualist) System 1 is the most expensive
one as the
older "normal" pump has been discontinued and only the
race pump is available
now. But this system is the most sophisticated one on
the market and some Rally
teams trusted them with succsess. While the other
systems are using the produced
pressure from the turbos for spraying the
stuff into the upstream the ERL is
independant to this and produces the same
pattern on every boost level. This
helps to upgrade the system with a System
2 that finally allows to tune up a 3D
water/boost/rpm map... the best you can
have.
Generally, a mixture of water/alcohol to be sprayed infront the TB
gives the
best results and is able to produce detonation stability like
running with fuel
of up to 140 octane (or even more). This will allow you to
increase boost to a
high level without the danger of melting something in the
chamber.
Of course, our injectors are getting maxed out around 15psi and the
fuel system
needs to be upgraded before the WI system can be added.
The
water reservoir for the windshield washer can be used for the
water/alcohol
without a problem and it's not really necessary to get another
one. Our EU cars
do have an additional water reservoir in the bumper that is
used for the lamp
sprays. I'll use this reservoir for the water as it is big
enough and do have a
sensor for a low level too (that lights up the orange
lamp). The ERL pump is
bigger than the others due to its power needed to
produce an very good fog when
pressed through the nozzle. So the biggest
problem is where to place the pump in
the engine compartment (I just found a
way) and where to install the nozzle
(still not solved on our cars)
On
my car the ERL System 1 (or system 2 directly) will be installed as soon
as
the fuel upgrades found their way into their locations. Unfortunately,
this
takes more time as expected and I have to show the car to the gov.
pretty soon
too (without any mods....don't
ask).
Regards,
Roger
-----------------------
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In a message dated 5/16/99 2:38:19 PM Central Daylight
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Can the DOHC
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Tonight, on the way home from work, I noticied something
flickering on my
dashboard as I went through the turns. I kept my eye
on it, and I finally
decided it was a picture of a battery.
The
battery warning light goes on when I go through turns. It doesn't stay
on, it only flickers and stays on for a second at the most. It
happened to
me during every turn I went through, and this is the first time
I've seen it
come on. I looked at the voltage indicator on the dash on
the far right,
and it looked normal. It said it was at 14V. Could a
cable be loose? I
have tried to jumpstart someone within the past
couple of months. Would
that have done this?
Please help
me.. Do I need to get a new battery?? Should I take it into
Trak
Auto or PepBoys and have them check it out??
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If it's over on the right side, near the bottom, and is
yellow, then
it's your coolant ondicator light. fill up the overflow tank to
correct
the problem. It could also be the windshield washer reservoir. Fill
both
up, and it should correct the problem.
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> The battery warning light goes on when I go through
turns.
> It doesn't stay on, it only flickers and stays on for
a
> second at the most.
Was it orange or red? In the
center of the console or to
the right... I ask because the symptoms
sound like your
washer fluid level. Have a look at item "G"
at this site
http://beam.to/GTO_Manual to determine if it is indeed
the
washer fluid.
> I looked at the voltage indicator on the dash
on the far
> right, and it looked normal. It said it was at
14V.
Hmm... I do not have one of these in my GTO, I assume
that
this is a Stealth? If it is not the washer fluid then you
will
need to check all terminals, etc...
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Are you sure it's the battery light?? What you're
describing happens
often if the coolant is a little low. As you go around the
corner, the
marginally low coolant sloshes to one side and gives a very
brief
coolant light. The light is the strangest looking coolant symbol
I've
ever seen.
Rice-Burner Crusher wrote:
>
> Tonight,
on the way home from work, I noticied something flickering on my
>
dashboard as I went through the turns. I kept my eye on it, and I
finally
> decided it was a picture of a battery.
>
> The
battery warning light goes on when I go through turns. It doesn't
stay
> on, it only flickers and stays on for a second at the most.
It happened to
> me during every turn I went through, and this is the
first time I've seen it
> come on. I looked at the voltage indicator
on the dash on the far right,
> and it looked normal. It said it was at
14V. Could a cable be loose? I
> have tried to jumpstart
someone within the past couple of months. Would
> that have done
this?
>
> Please help me.. Do I need to get a new
battery?? Should I take it into
> Trak Auto or PepBoys and have them
check it out??
>
> Thanks for any and all help...
>
>
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Chances are it's the Parthanon (sp?)
looking icon (looks like a Greek
building) it's the coolant light.
Mine's been going on and off for the last
month or so even though the coolant
is a nice green and filled to the fill
line. There's no way this light
goes off somehow knowing that the fluid is
2 years old is there? I've
heard that there is a sender unit that often
fails causing this
problem...
> If it's over on the right side, near the bottom, and
is yellow, then
> it's your coolant ondicator light. fill up the overflow
tank to correct
> the problem.
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> Can the DOHC NA Stealths benefit from these water
injection systems?
No, only if you find a way to increase pressure in the
chamber. WI systems are
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Thanks for the info Jack !
Can somebody please give
me some more information, pictures or links to the
Ground Control stuff ? I'd
like to put this information onto the GP page as well
as I'm interested too
(the SUV look in the rear must go)
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Roger, not sure what else I can add, but the link
is:
http://www.ground-control.com/
Jason
Roger Gerl
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> Thanks for the info Jack !
>
> Can somebody
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> Ground
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> as I'm interested too (the SUV look in the rear must
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>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> > DSM list is
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> > adjustable/lowering
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> > suspension kits, such as Barry King and several other List
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> > already and have been raving about! WE 3S
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> > Usual price is $400, they are down to $325
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That would be the light.. Why does it look like a
battery when it's for the
washer fluid...
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>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:38:28 +1200
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> >
The battery warning light goes on when I go through turns.
> > It
doesn't stay on, it only flickers and stays on for a
> > second at the
most.
>
>Was it orange or red? In the center of the console or
to
>the right... I ask because the symptoms sound like
your
>washer fluid level. Have a look at item "G" at this
site
>http://beam.to/GTO_Manual to determine if it is indeed
the
>washer fluid.
>
> > I looked at the voltage indicator
on the dash on the far
> > right, and it looked normal. It said it was
at 14V.
>
>Hmm... I do not have one of these in my GTO, I
assume that
>this is a Stealth? If it is not the washer fluid then
you
>will need to check all terminals,
etc...
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It's not the parthenon looking light.. I've seen
that one before and this
one is not it. I looked at a picture of the
warning lights, and it is for
the washer fluid.. I thought it looked
like a battery symbol.. Oh well..
Thanks you
guys!
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>Chances are it's the Parthanon (sp?) looking icon (looks
like a Greek
>building) it's the coolant light. Mine's been going on
and off for the
>last
>month or so even though the coolant is a
nice green and filled to the fill
>line. There's no way this light
goes off somehow knowing that the fluid is
>2 years old is there?
I've heard that there is a sender unit that often
>fails causing this
problem...
>
>
> > If it's over on the right side, near the
bottom, and is yellow, then
> > it's your coolant ondicator light. fill
up the overflow tank to correct
> > the
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In a message dated 5/16/99 1:22:27 AM Central Daylight
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<< someone on the message boards
was experimenting w/putting in a corvette 6
spd. >>
Thank you
gentlemen (Nick, Darc, Joshua & Terry), for all your input.
I believe
the 6 speed Corvette transmission is also manufactured by Getrag;
This
German based company is found in our cars, Supras, Corvettes and
Camaros. They seem to dominate the high Performance car
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I'll keep you all & the list posted with my
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I may be mistaken, but I believe the Corvette boxes are
from ZF not Getrag.
They do however suffer the same fate, if there's an
internal problem, the
dealers are instructed to replace the trans assembly.
Roger
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Hi Jack,
I am interested in this group purchase.
The only problem is that I
have just (within the last 2 months) purchased
the Eibach Pro-Kit Springs for
$269. If I can sell them ASAP; I will
be a candidate for your group
purchase. Please keep me informed of any
ideas. OR, could I ship my Springs
to Ground Control (since they use
Eibach springs anyway) and have them
upgraded to their product? Maybe
a $35 charge? (to compensate for the price
I purchased my Eibachs and
the group purchase price of $300)?? Anyway, just
an idea; please keep
me posted.
By the way, have you read my recent post on: Subject: Dealer
experience and
transmission questions? I'd appreciate some input from
you. Thanks!
Take care,
Ahmed "AL-Crazy" - '92
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In a message dated 5/17/99 8:52:03 AM Central Daylight
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<< I may be mistaken, but I
believe the Corvette boxes are from ZF not Getrag.
They do however suffer the
same fate, if there's an internal problem, the
dealers are instructed to
replace the trans assembly.
Roger >>
I believe that might
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Corvettes had
a Getrag or not; Either way, same fate!
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In a message dated 5/17/99 8:52:03 AM Central Daylight
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believe the Corvette boxes are from ZF not Getrag.
They do however suffer the
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Roger >>
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Greetings,
I am considering importing a 3KGT VR4
(91-93) into Canada, and was concerned
about the availability parts for this
vehicle, both standard maintenance
parts and general repair parts. From
what I understand, basically
everything 'under' the skin of the car is the
same as the Dodge Stealth
RT/TT?
Is this a safe assumption? For
general maintenance, can I go to the local
parts depot/dealer and safely use
the Stealth parts?
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Greetings Roger,
My name is Raagi Pandya, I live in
Montreal, I was wondering if I could ask
for your opinion on
something...
I am looking at importing (from the US) a 92 Mitsu 3000GT
VR4. It's dark
green, all loaded, and in pretty good shape
ascetically. It is relatively
high mileage (200K KM), but has most of
the maintenance records. The car
seems quite nice, but does have a
flaw; it has what sounds like a
bearing/rod knock in the motor. It is,
however, very inexpensive ($5000US).
I have yet to take it to a shop for a
compression test/general overview, but
I was wondering if this seems like a
good deal to you. I plan to build up
the motor (ported
head/intake/exhaust), perhaps forged pistons and
(obviously!) new
rods.
The stock turbo will have to go (if money permits, right away!).
The car is
driveable, and the gearbox seems quite intact.
Do you think
this is a worthwhile idea? I am no stranger to imported cars
(I'm
currently an owner of a modded first generation 300ZX Turbo and
MR2
Supercharged, and have worked on cars from 300ZXTT's to blown Mustangs),
but
have very limited knowledge of the 3KGT/RTTT line.
I guess
basically what I am asking is: would you buy this car if you were
in my
place?
Thanks for any and all comments
Raagi Pandya
Montreal,
Canada
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Hi all,
Some one had an idea of building stronger
parts for our transmissions.
Well I have the following if anyone needs
them. All these parts came
out of a 5 speed w/ 25 splines:
1-2
Synchro
3-4 Synchro (still in very good condition)
Output Shaft w/
25 splines.
Just tell me who to send them to!
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Sorry, that last message was intended as a private
message.
A thousand apologies.....
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Don't forget the Nissan Skyline TT.....
On Mon, 17
May 1999 09:42:05 EDT TurboDrvn@aol.com writes:
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>Thank you gentlemen (Nick, Darc, Joshua & Terry),
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>
>I believe the 6 speed Corvette transmission
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>
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Pandya;
Most of what you have on this first
generation car (if you import it), is identical to
it's twin the Stealth TT.
A few cosmetic features and the active aero system are
different, but the
rest is pure and simple, identical. So you can pick up parts up at
your
local Dodge Dealer, or go south of the border and pick up your parts or do it
there
even cheaper. Mitsu and Dodge departed this body twin style in
the second generation,
but the mechanical components were bye and large left
the same.
Rebuilds on the engine of this generation have been
performed regularly by race
enthusiasts as the result of overboost situations
before dyno testing indicated that 1
bar was the safe limit. The results of
these tear downs has shown that the engine itself
remains in almost new
condition and the rings (or in some cases the pistons) have not
sustained the
detonation caused by high boost situations. Noise in the valve lash
adjusters
has seen replacement of these, but other than that, you have one of
the
best/stongest engines engineered today to play with. You should
note that the 91-92
modles had 2 bolt mains ,and the 93 and up into the
second generation had 4 bolt mains.
91-to mid 92 also had 15 spline
input shafts in the transmission so consider getting an
after market hardened
input shaft and transfer case sleeve when doing your rebuild, if
it's one of
these. Now, if you can just get the the seller to take your
Canadian
dollars at par :-)
Best
Darc
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For anybody interested in a racing seat...
I've just
chosen the following for myself.
Corbeau Forza CSForza
I have a list price
of $220 with shipping included for each seat
plus $78.50 for each bracket. I
was also able to get a 5% list discount
set up for anyone interested. Mention
3SI list. They can be seen
at:
http://www.sportscar-parts.com/seats.html
These seats are rated,
approved and cut a bit larger for an American butt.
They also make a more
padded model called Forza 2 but its heavier
BTW, I have not used or sat in
them yet so make your own decisions.
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Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
> DSM list is having a Group Purchase on Ground
Control
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> Usual price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6
more people
> join, price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this
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> you are interested, contact ASAP
Great timing ---
I just ordered a set Thursday, talked to Arron, mentioned
Team3S and Barry
Kings recommendation but no GP was mentioned.
Who do I need to talk to, maybe
I can still get in. Or at least have it counted
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Who is it I need to contact on the GP?
Thanks for the
info.
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> Usual price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6
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Arty,
I believe the person handling the group purchase
is Jack Tertadian.
Ahmed.
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Hi Gang...
Worked a little bit on my 92 RT/TT this
week-end.
All of this is probably no news for most of you, but I'll write it
anyways
:-)
Still haven't got the intake plenum, so, I decided to
change ONLY the 3
front plug wires. Drive the car this morning, I CANNOT
BELEIVE the
difference these 3 wires are making...hesitation is
"almost" gone, and the
car is a lot more enjoyable to
drive.
At the same time, I as well fixed a couple irritating
problems..
Cargo cover wouldn't stay in the mount
The windown's driver's
side plastic plate was cracked
The steering wheel radio controls were NOT
working very well
All fixed.
I as well decided to modify the way
the fog lights are working on the car.
found the instructions
saying
"There are 4 red wires attached to it, 1 with silver dashes,
1 with a yellow
stripe and silver dots, and 2 with a blue
stripe."
Oups, talk about badly written..there are TWO IDENTICAL RED
WITH A BLUE
STRIPE WIRE...
"The one that is on the bottom of the
relay with the blue stripe is the one
you need
to
cut."
Ahem....when a relay is lying FLAT, and the relay
connectors have a T
shape....where is the one at the bottom....
Took
my multimeter, played around, thought I found the
right
one....WRONGO.....
Had to re-solder it (and, using a gas soldering
pen, I managed to badly burn
my thumb. These things are hot enough to melt
lead, they're hot enough to
"cook" human flesh as well, 1300°C
is DAMM HOT)
So, here are my "corrected and improved"
version.
The relay connectors are arranged somewhat like a T, and you'll
find TWO RED
wires with a blue stripe. One of the red wire will be positioned
at the base
(or bottom) of the T. Follow it, it should go into the main
wiring harness.
You do NOT want to cut this one.
The OTHER red wire is
positioned at a side of the top of the T. If you
follow this wire, it should
splice into another wire nearby. You want to cut
THIS wire, between the
splice, and the relay connector.
You MUST insulate the wire not going to
the relay, as this wire will become
"hot" when your headlamps are
on (heat shrink tubes are working perfectly)
I'd suggest to connect the
OTHER side (the one going to the relay) to the
PROTECTED side of the
"Tail Lights" relay. In my car, that wire is a green
one, with
black dots.
That way, you'll be able to get the fod lights on as soon as the
"parking"
lights are on, but you'll still have the "walkaway
battery saver" working as
designed (yup, I tested all
modes).
Hope this will prevent a couple
blisters...
Henri
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just got another last night, does anyone know if I will be
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Hi, this is my 1st post.
I have a
'92 VR4, sometimes I get a horrible grinding noise on cold starts.
The dealer
can't find the problem. Any ideas?
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In a message dated 5/17/99 12:05:43 PM Central Daylight
Time, nxiong@juno.com
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<< just got another last night,
does anyone know if I will be billed for
repeat offender since my last ticket
was in August 1998? >>
Hey Nick,
Sorry to hear about your
ticket. If you had a ticket last August of
1998; your chances
are good that you won't be billed for a repeat offender;
there's usually a 6
month probationary period; and you're definitely past 6
months; but it
depends on the severity of your last ticket and also did you
go to traffic
school?
Good luck!
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Joe Kou at af3976@wayne.edu is handling
the group purchase. Jack Tertadian
is not...he just relayed us the
message. If you're interested, you need to
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phone number, year and make/model, and he will
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>Who is it I need to
contact on the GP?
>Thanks for the info.
>Arty 91
VR-4
>
>In a message dated 5/17/99 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight
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> > Usual price is $400, they are down to
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I wouldn't go to a dealer at all. Email me privately
if you are in Toronto
and I will tell you of my horror
stories...
Mike
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>Greetings,
>
>I am considering importing a
3KGT VR4 (91-93) into Canada, and was
concerned
>about the availability
parts for this vehicle, both standard maintenance
>parts and general
repair parts. From what I understand, basically
>everything 'under'
the skin of the car is the same as the Dodge
Stealth
>RT/TT?
>
>Is this a safe assumption? For
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Please immediately stop this OFF-LINE TOPIC as this is
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stuff.
Thanks for your
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> Hi, this is my 1st post.
Morgan, you are very
welcome :)
> I have a '92 VR4, sometimes I get a horrible grinding
noise on cold starts.
Try to locate if the noise is comming from the
firewall on the passengers side.
What you hear is maybe only the boost or the
fuel pressure valve and the fix
would then be easy.
Also if it is
coser to the engine, then an engine flush and new gooood oil would
maybe
help.
Last but not least check out of the noise is comming from the
tranny or clutch
region.
Please locate the sound as good as possible
and note the temp gauge when the
sound is going away.
Let us
know,
Roger
-----------------------
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Darc,
One quick question on comparison of Stealth
RT/TT and Mitsu VR-4: Does
the Stealth RT/TT also have 4 wheel steering like
its Mitsu
counterparts?
Regards,
Lynn
wce@bc.sympatico.ca
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> Pandya;
>
> Most of what you have on this
first generation car (if you import it), is identical to
> it's twin the
Stealth TT. A few cosmetic features and the active aero system are
>
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Sorry guys for this little help-call :)
But I do
need an email address from Ground Control to ask em about my other car
that
already have Eibach springs.
Thanks in advance and please email me
privately
Roger
PS: Yes, I'm getting them for the Animale too
:))
-----------------------
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I was wondering if anyone knew what RPM a Base Stealth
should be reading at
a speed of 65 MPH?
My car is a 1993 Base Stealth
and at 65MPH the RPM is at 2700. Is that
about right?
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If I use the adjustable Ground Control Springs
what is
the better strut to match up with it -
KYB, Gab, or stock ECS for 1/4 mile
race use?
Arty 91 VR-4
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Yes, that's about right. I'm just under 3K at
80mph. You and I should
have the same tranny. (I drive a 93
Stealth ES.)
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
How many roads must
a man travel down before he admits he is lost?
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Derek
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> I was wondering if anyone knew what RPM a Base Stealth
should be reading at
> a speed of 65 MPH?
>
> My car is a
1993 Base Stealth and at 65MPH the RPM is at 2700. Is that
> about
right?
>
> Derek Hayes
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<html><div>I had a nasty grinding noise a
while ago, most prevalent in
winter. It was loud, stayed the same
high pitch, and it was like it
started fast and the slowed down... like a
REALLY REALLY rusted fan as it
slowed down to a stop or something. I noticed
the noise disappeared as
soon as the car started, or I let up on the
key.</div>
<br>
<div>Anyway, this situation turned out
to be my starter. It was a
simple solution of putting some grease
on the bendix gear on the starter
and it went away, although it came back
later. This could be a
possibilty too, as I've heard lots of 3S
people complaining about the
same thing, though it very well could the other
things listed
below.</div>
<br>
<div>If you monkey
with the starter, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY. A guy
told me how a
friend of his lost a finger on the same job but didn't
disconnect the
battery. </div>
<br>
<div>If you need more info, email
me and I'll dig up the email I used to
grease my starter
up.</div>
<br>
<div>*Phillip</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>At
12:49 PM 5/17/99 , you wrote:</div>
<div>>> Hi,
this is my 1st
post.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Morgan,
you are very welcome
:)</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>>
I have a '92 VR4, sometimes I get a horrible grinding noise
on cold
starts.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Try
to locate if the noise is comming from the firewall on the
passengers
side.</div>
<div>>What you hear is maybe only the boost or
the fuel pressure valve
and the fix</div>
<div>>would
then be
easy.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Also
if it is coser to the engine, then an engine flush and new
gooood oil
</div>
<div>>would</div>
<div>>maybe
help.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Last
but not least check out of the noise is comming from the
tranny or
clutch</div>
<div>>region.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Please
locate the sound as good as possible and note the temp
gauge when
the</div>
<div>>sound is going
away.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Let
us
know,</div>
<div>>Roger</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>-----------------------</div>
<div>>Roger
Gerl, Switzerland</div>
<div>>93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale
Rosso)</div>
<div>>K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz
DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS
SBOV,</div>
<div>>ATR DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2
rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided
brake lines</div>
<div>>Bremsa
brakes,u-Mevius Street Race
pads</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Check
out:
<a
href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html"
EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html</a></div>
<div>>For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
</div>
<div>><a
href="http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm"
EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm</a></div>
<br>
<hr>
<font
face="Tahoma"><b>Phillip
Johnson<br>
</b>Ceridian Central Custom
Programmer<br>
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What exactly is it?
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Can someone describe what exactly this kit includes and
whether they can do
it to you eibach springs if you already have them?
Thanks
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!
Sorry guys for this little help-call :)
But I do need an email
address from Ground Control to ask em
about my other car
that already have
Eibach springs.
Thanks in advance and please email me
privately
Roger
PS: Yes, I'm getting them for the Animale too
:))
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Hi Lynn;
Yep it (TT's are all RT) has all
wheel steering...but this feature I believe kicks in at
speeds over 30 or
somesuch. Essentially they are the same with different decals/trim (Mitsu
vs
Stealth) and the Mitsu has a different active aero wing and front active
spoiler.
Best
Darc
William Lynn Larsen wrote:
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Darc,
>
> One quick question on comparison of Stealth RT/TT and
Mitsu VR-4: Does
> the Stealth RT/TT also have 4 wheel steering like its
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My mom has the EVC IV in her car and once I manually did
it, it was awesome,
I really saw a huge difference, but which is better the
EVC IV or the Blitz
DSBC? Can you manually do the DSBC? Or don't
you have to do 110 mph to
setup the DSBC like the EVC. Also I know a
guy selling a EVC III atm which
he says was worth $1000 but he would sell it
for $440. What is up with that
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In a message dated 5/17/99 6:23:40 AM Central Daylight
Time,
phnxgld@erols.com writes:
<< Roger, not sure what else I
can add, but the link is:
http://www.ground-control.com/
>>
Can someone tell me how low this lower our cars?
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Correct me if i'm wrong anybody, but i belive the only
reason HKS reduced
the price of the EVC between the III and IV is Greddy came
out with the
PROfec at a price of ~$500. Meanwhile, 2-3 other companies
released
electronic boost controllers in the same $500 price range. There was
no way
for HKS to compete with a pricetag of $1000. At that point they
reduced the
price and put a IV at the end. Of course thats just one man's
opinion.......
Wayne
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Anyone have a photo of a piston for 3S
TT?
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At 08:38 AM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Subject:
Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
>
>
>> DSM list is
having a Group Purchase on Ground Control
>!
>> Usual price is
$400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
>> join, price
will be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94; if
>> you
are interested, contact ASAP
>
>
Count me in. Send details on how
to arrange purchase.
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However, to answer your question about the
"atm", this is a feature that
enables the EVC to automatically
compensate for altitude changes through
the use of an atmospheric pressure
sensor......Otherwise it's the same as
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III.
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In a message dated 5/17/99 3:48:51 PM Central Daylight
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<< >Subject: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
>
>
>> DSM list is having a
Group Purchase on Ground Control
>!
>> Usual price is $400, they
are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
>> join, price will be
$300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94; if
>> you are
interested, contact ASAP >>
IF someone can tell me how low this
will lower my car, i might be in. : )
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Sounds like something i'd like to be in on. Except, i
dunno what they do
exactly ;). Someone give up the
goodies.
Thanks,
Gavin
>>> xwing
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DSM list is having a
Group Purchase on Ground Control
adjustable/lowering spring
suspension
kits, such as Barry King and several other List Members
have
already and
have been raving about! WE 3S people CAN join the buy!
Usual
price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
join, price
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you are
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> I really saw a huge difference, but which is better
the EVC
> IV or the Blitz DSBC? Can you manually do the DSBC?
Or
> don't you have to do 110 mph to setup the DSBC like the EVC.
I
have no knowledge of the EVC, but the Blitz does not require
the car to be
raced in order to set it up. The Blitz provides
you with the means to
run a consistant pressure at one of four
predefined (by yourself)
settings. It has a built in digital
boost guage and peak boost
hold.
More information on the setup of this can be found at
Roger's
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First, thanks to Jack that brought this to our attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and don't send any count-me-in or whatever
to his attention nor to
the list.
If you don't know what it is ... you
don't need it (although Jack wrote it in
his post what it is). If you have
some money left then jump to the GP page on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact person is Joe
Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people together and sends Ground Control
the
list of the participants. Payment and shipping will then handled by them.
Please
note that Joe is a proud DSM owner and cannot answer you specific
3000GT
questions.
Of course some questions like "how much lower
will be my car" (to the ground if
you want) or "what spring rate
should be used" are valid ones and can maybe
answered by some people who
already have them on their car.
Hope this helps
!
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
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K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR DP/testpipe,Borla
Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines
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Street Race pads
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> Anyone have a photo of a piston for 3S
TT?
Yes, but what exactly do you want or what is your aim ??
The
BAD pics are on my page under the "problems" section
:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/engine_problems.html
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What if we have eibach spring already? Can these be
used with the other
parts???
-----Original Message-----
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Group
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First, thanks to Jack that brought this to our
attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and don't send any
count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the list.
If you
don't know what it is ... you don't need it (although
Jack wrote it in
his
post what it is). If you have some money left then jump
to the GP page on
my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe
Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people together and sends
Ground
Control the
list of the participants. Payment and shipping will
then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud DSM owner and cannot
answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of course some questions like
"how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground if
you want) or
"what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check
out:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
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subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
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The mostly bought EBCs are the Blitz DSBC and the Apexi
SAVC-R. In an objective
comparison both got about the same points. But of
course some may find an IDC
display much more valuable than a peak hold
feature.
For the DSBC, Kevin explained it very well. After using the DSBC
for over a
year, I think it is a great tool but also somewhat difficult as
you have the
full control. As the season changes you also have to change the
settings a
little. No big deal but I'm often find myself trying another
settings under
different ambient.
The AVC-R is a very good BC and has
some function like IDC monitor and self
learning. The later seems to work
very good compared to other products and if
you want a fire-and-forget
feature, the Apexi is the best choice.
The street prices for the AVC-R is
around $460 while the Blitz DSBC can be get
for under $400.
Happy
boosting,
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
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Trying to come up with a good design. I was talking
with a friend about the Type R
acura, and how he liked their piston
design. He wants to try some interesting ideas
with his (was mine about
4 days ago) VR-4.
He owns A&S rebuilds, and a dealership. He
has plans to do a lot of engine work to that
bad boy since he owns the shop
that does that sort of thing. He's had it 4 days, and
he's got the
whole thing torn apart, and is porting/polishing tonight, and
tomorrow.
They have some nice CC machining equipment, and we are trying
to come up with any ideas
for a better piston design.
Can you machine
forged Pistons??? I know nothing more than simple physics when it
comes
to cars so forgive my ignorance. There is a local Motorcycle
performance shop who does
custom piston work, and routinely works with
Titanium/Kevlar reinforced pistons and high
technologies like they put on
those things these days. Hoping ot come up with some
really good piston
design. Ideas?
"R.G." wrote:
> > Anyone have a
photo of a piston for 3S TT?
>
> Yes, but what exactly do you want
or what is your aim ??
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Does ECS still work if you keep you stock struts?
-----Original Message-----
From: R.G.
[mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control
Group
Purchase
First, thanks to Jack that brought this to our
attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and don't send any
count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the list.
If you
don't know what it is ... you don't need it (although
Jack wrote it in
his
post what it is). If you have some money left then jump
to the GP page on
my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe
Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people together and sends
Ground
Control the
list of the participants. Payment and shipping will
then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud DSM owner and cannot
answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of course some questions like
"how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground if
you want) or
"what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check
out:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
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subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
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I talked with the guy who is putting together the group
purchase and he
didn't know so I will ask you guys. I know there
was a lot of talk that if
you wanted to go lower then the eibachs you
had to cut the frame rail or
something, do you hafta do that with this
setup? I am thinking about
selling my eibach lowering springs and just
getting this setup. Can anyone
tell me how they like it? Does it
work with the stock struts and ecs?
Thanks for any info
-----Original
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From: R.G. [mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent: Monday, May
17, 1999 6:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
ALL !! Ground Control Group
Purchase
First, thanks to Jack that
brought this to our attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and don't
send any count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the
list.
If you don't know what it is ... you don't need it
(although
Jack wrote it in
his post what it is). If you have some money
left then jump
to the GP page on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe
Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people together and sends
Ground
Control the
list of the participants. Payment and shipping will
then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud DSM owner and cannot
answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of course some questions like
"how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground if
you want) or
"what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check
out:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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>>>> xwing
<xwing@execpc.com> 05/17/99 11:23am >>>
>DSM list is having
a Group Purchase on Ground Control
>adjustable/lowering
spring
>suspension kits, such as Barry King and several other List
Members
>have
>already and have been raving about! WE 3S
people CAN join the buy!
>Usual price is $400, they are down to $325
now. If 6 more people
>join, price will be $300 each kit. I am
getting this for my '94; if
>you are interested, contact
ASAP:
Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be made
to
get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment using
this
hardware? (95 VR-4.)
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You'll likely want to consider the camber adjustment kit
for the front for
best results, which GC also sells.
The stock setup
requires notching and fiddling, which is doable but takes
some potentially
finicky effort. There is no camber adjustment kit for the
rear that I
have seen.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
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>
> Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be
made
> to get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment
using
> this hardware? (95 VR-4.)
> Regards,
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>
>
> Does anyone
know if the OEM adjustment range can be made
> to get the wheels into a
proper (non-wearing) alignment using
> this hardware? (95
VR-4.)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If
you leave the ride height stock, the adjustments should remain the
same.
Lowering the car excessively may cause adjustment range
problems.
Jim Berry
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According to GC you should be able to drop the car in
excess of 2" but it is
advised NOT to do that since it will definitely
mess with the steering
geometry and as Jim says adjustability becomes a
serious concern.
The kit isn't intended for "slamming" the car,
but to offer a range of
adjustment for tuning the ride height for performance
handling reasons while
maintaining full suspension travel unlike lowering
springs.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
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> > Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be
made
> > to get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment
using
> > this hardware? (95 VR-4.)
>
------------------------------------------------------------------
>
----------------------------
>
> If you leave the ride height stock,
the adjustments should remain
> the same.
> Lowering the car
excessively may cause adjustment range problems.
>
> Jim
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How much do these seats weigh???
Bill
Wagner
Aso8@aol.com wrote:
>
> For anybody interested in a
racing seat...
> I've just chosen the following for myself.
>
Corbeau Forza CSForza
> I have a list price of $220 with shipping included
for each seat
> plus $78.50 for each bracket. I was also able to get a 5%
list discount
> set up for anyone interested. Mention 3SI list. They can
be seen at:
> http://www.sportscar-parts.com/seats.html
> These
seats are rated, approved and cut a bit larger for an American butt.
>
They also make a more padded model called Forza 2 but its heavier
> BTW, I
have not used or sat in them yet so make your own decisions.
> Arty 91
VR-4
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Here's an interesting point from the
Dragnet list.
Doug is thinking about building a water injection system
for < $300? (I think). He has
the capability and has made one work in the
past, he is just modifying his old design to
work for a
3S.
Bill
91 TT "Old Red"
(Maybe we can get him to join
the Team3S tech list!)
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Ok, here
are some things I have been thinking about...Lets call them design
notes.
1. Water Pressure
First, the water solution pressure at the
jet(s) needs to be at least 3 bars ( 43.5 psi).
Otherwise, the water will
not atomize. I know what your thinking, I can get water to
atomize at around
20 psi. That's true, however, remember when your turbos are pushing 17
psi
of boost the differential pressure at the jets would only be 3lbs..barely a
drop.
2. Pump
#1 creates a small problem. Pumps that can do this type
on pressure in a reasonable
amount of space and that handle water are
pricey. I know your thinking fuel pump. A fuel
pump is not designed for
water and will fail shortly. The best choice is a magnetic
piston or gear
pump. These are very expensive. A similar mag piston pump that aquamist
uses
runs around $300. That's only reason it's so pricey.
The solution I think
is best is as follows:
Use a 12vdc air pump like they have to inflate tires.
They are small and cheap about $20.
Use that to pressurize a container
with water. This is cheap and has the advantage of
instant pressure when you
need it - no lag. Containers that can do this are pricey so I
propose to use
pvc pipe with caps. They can be drilled and tapped for much less then
other
containers and will hold the pressure fine. The only problem is the noise of the
pump... they're pretty loud.
3. To control the amount of water a
electronic valve should be used. The water will be
controlled by short
bursts. This can be done with a pulse wave modulator of a micro
controller.
4. Current systems use a pressure switch to turn on. Note
that the high end aquamist uses
a system that I consider to be good and not
just a pressure switch. The water should be
ramped up at boost and rpm
increase. This is easy to do with a micro controller as well.
The rpm sense
could be done with a coil around a spark plug cable.
Most of the cheaper
systems out there do not use a high pressure pump and I question
their
ability to work at high boosts. Also there is no fail safe on the pressure
switch.
If the switch fails closed the pump will dump all the water into the
engine doing some
not so great things.
Doug
95 R/T TT
These
are all my opinions, if you don't agree - good. Tell me why and we can find a
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> I talked with the guy who is
putting together the group purchase and he
> didn't know so I will ask you
guys. I know there was a lot of talk that if
> you wanted to
go lower then the eibachs you had to cut the frame rail or
> something, do
you hafta do that with this setup? I am thinking about
> selling my
eibach lowering springs and just getting this setup. Can anyone
>
tell me how they like it? Does it work with the stock struts and
ecs?
> Thanks for any
info
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
The
limiting factor when excessively lowering the car is probably
suspension
travel and suspension adjustment. These cars have little
suspension travel
to start with,and lowering them will reduce the travel even
further. If you want
a ground pounder [ more than 1 1/2 or 2" ] you may
require drastic measures.
In addition lowering the car affects the camber and
you will probably exceed
the adjustment
limits.
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Would anyone be interested in some custom designed hood
scoops for a 1st Gen? I was
talking to my (almost) brother in-law this
weekend and he said it shouldn't be a problem
to put something together. He
is in the "scoot" business (that's an air boat by another
name)
and makes his own propellers for them. He can feed a wooden propeller into one
of
his and it works like a wood chipper! so I think he may know what he's
doing. I have a
1st Gen so I could supply him with the hood
"blisters" for making a mold. The only
question is what ends would
a scoop work best and what price would make it worth
continuing?
Email me privately if anyone is interested in me persuing this at
all.
Bill
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At 08:06 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>According to
GC you should be able to drop the car in excess of 2" but it
is
>advised NOT to do that since it will definitely mess with the
steering
>geometry and as Jim says adjustability becomes a serious
concern.
As I understand it, lowering the car increases the camber (makes
the wheels
lean in at the top), which is ideal for racing.
I'm
ordering a set so I can drive a perfectly aligned, normal ride height
car to
an open track event.
When I arrive, I'll jack it up, lower the car,
increase the camber, adjust
out the high speed push, and just have a
better handling car. When I'm all
finished at the event, I intend to jack it
up, adjust back to stock height,
and drive home with the car perfectly
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Nope. That'll work just great. Check the price
on their camber kit. It is
affordable.
Barry
>
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>
> At 08:06 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you
wrote:
> >According to GC you should be able to drop the car in excess
of
> 2" but it is
> >advised NOT to do that since it will
definitely mess with the steering
> >geometry and as Jim says
adjustability becomes a serious concern.
>
> As I understand it,
lowering the car increases the camber (makes
> the wheels
> lean in
at the top), which is ideal for racing.
>
> I'm ordering a set so I
can drive a perfectly aligned, normal ride height
> car to an open track
event.
>
> When I arrive, I'll jack it up, lower the car, increase
the
> camber, adjust
> out the high speed push, and just have
a better handling car. When I'm all
> finished at the event, I intend to
jack it up, adjust back to
> stock height,
> and drive home with the
car perfectly aligned once again.
>
> Anybody see a problem with
this?
> If so, speak up.
>
> Rich/old poop/94
VR4
>
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Anyone have any thoughts on what spring rates are most
appropriate for open
track driving?
I notice some push at high speeds,
and I'm hoping that lowering the car and
a higher spring rate will cure the
push. But what rate? Same front and rear?
I'd like to keep the car
streetable, too. Will the ECS continue to work?
Any
ideas?
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Bill;
As in anything, the aesthetics of the product
would be a deciding factor in it's success.
Once you have a prototype, and I
assume good looking one, interest may
balloon.
Best
Darc
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Just some comments, from my previous experience with GC
equipment on other
models....
> As I understand it, lowering the
car increases the camber (makes
> the wheels
> lean in at the top),
which is ideal for racing.
>
> I'm ordering a set so I can drive a
perfectly aligned, normal ride >height
> car to an open track
event.
>
> When I arrive, I'll jack it up, lower the car, increase
the
> camber, adjust
> out the high speed push, and just have
a better handling car. When
> I'm all
> finished at the event, I
intend to jack it up, adjust back to
> stock height,
> and drive
home with the car perfectly aligned once again.
>
> Anybody see a
problem with this?
> If so, speak up.
First off, unfortunately it's
not as simple as 'jacking it up and lowering
it'. Unless you have the
car properly corner-weighted, you risk drastically
altering the
steering/handling balance. If you ever see a track car with
adjustable
heights, these guys invariably spend most of their time corner
weighting the
car after EVERY adjustment.
Essentially, you really should corner-weight
it every time, it's the only
way you can be sure that you haven't made a
pronounced mistake that could
serious bite you at the track.
Corner-weighting is not that difficult, but you need the right
tools.
Check any Racer's Wholesale (et. al) for the various equipment.
It's not
that expensive. Of course corner-weighting is a great
adjustment tool for
getting that perfect track set-up...
Secondly, I
can't speak for the 3KGT/Stealth, but most cars, after having
been 'adjusted'
up-or-down, will require a front-end alignment. Otherwise
you'll have to
'accept' a compromise alignment setting, which may be
acceptable at the
track, but totally unsuitable on the street, or
vice-versa.
Thirdly, I
don't know if everyone understands this, but the GC has no
provisions for
actual 'settings', it's essentially one big threaded collar.
You cannot (as
it is shipped) set specific levels (for example, one for the
track, one for
the street). You can attempt to 'mark' the threads, or count
rotations,
but there are no discreet 'notches'. This makes adjusting
rather
difficult, and once again, you'll probably have to corner-weight it
after
every adjustment just to be sure the car is level.
I have seen
'other' adjustable height collars, which have several fixed
'grooves' for
adjustability, instead of one big threaded collar. GAB has
this type of
assembly (for various cars, but invariably not for the 3KGT).
This would seem
to be a slightly easier solution, as you can set the height
to 'three from
the bottom'.
The ultimate set-up would be to have the GAB-type adjustable
collars, with a
similar set-up for adjusting the camber, toe and caster. That
way you arrive
at the track, set the adjustable struts at 2, the adjustable
springs at 3,
the camber at -3' and zero toe all around. Then after,
set it all back to
normal. Now all you need is for someone to build
it.....
Comments, questions, any non-flames welcome
:)
Regards
Raagi Pandya
Montreal, Canada
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> Anyone have any thoughts on what spring rates are
most
> appropriate for open
> track driving?
See
below.
> I notice some push at high speeds, and I'm hoping that
lowering
> the car and
> a higher spring rate will cure the push.
But what rate? Same
> front and rear?
Loading is in the
neighborhood of 60% front, 40% rear. Probably closer to
55/45.
You'll want to balance springs accordingly plus give consideration
to weight
transfer under braking. Talk to Jay at GC, tell him what you want
to do
with the car and he should be able to zero you in pretty quickly.
>
I'd like to keep the car streetable, too. Will the ECS continue to
work?
ECS goes away when the stock struts are replaced. Should work
if you keep
the stock struts. However, I suspect that the new springs
won't be the best
match to the stock struts. You may want to give
serious consideration to
getting GABs or perhaps something that GC offers to
round out the package.
> Any ideas?
Always ;)
>
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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: 1st Gen Hood scoops
> 1st Gen so
I could supply him with the hood "blisters" for making a mold. The
only
> question is what ends would a scoop work best and what price would
make it worth
>
continuing?
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In
response to which direction the scoops should point --- I posted some weeks
ago
that I installed motors on my 93 Stealth scoops such that they open about
21/2" in front.
Some very preliminary temperature measurements show
little improvement in intake air
temp. Since they're electrically operated I
can open and close them while driving and
I didn't see any drastic changes in
temperature.
Extraction scoops may work better but I have no information on
their effectiveness.
I plan on doing additional testing on my scoops when
these group purchases quit
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In response to the direction of the scoops:
What if
you directed the opening of the right "blister" scoop to the
front.
(forcing air in) AND Direct the left opening towards the windshield as
to
create air flow through the engine bay. This will keep fresh air
coming in
at or near the filter element giving it the coolest possible charge
air.
Since the engine bay is "sealed" so effectively the
"East->West" air flow
will (In theory) keep the cool air where
it should be. (near the filter)
What do you think?
Trent
Owens.
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> 1st Gen so I could supply him
with the hood "blisters" for making a mold.
The only
>
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worth
>
continuing?
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In
response to which direction the scoops should point --- I posted some
weeks
ago
that I installed motors on my 93 Stealth scoops such that they open
about
21/2" in front.
Some very preliminary temperature measurements
show little improvement in
intake air
temp. Since they're electrically
operated I can open and close them while
driving and
I didn't see any
drastic changes in temperature.
Extraction scoops may work better but I have
no information on their
effectiveness.
I plan on doing additional testing
on my scoops when these group purchases
quit
draining my
pocketbook.
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Hi all,
I hit a major pot hole today! Scared
the sh-- out of me! I noticed
that my temp. gauge was reading at a
higher temp. than usual after I hit that
pot hole. I wonder if I hit
the pot hole so hard (yes, it did bend my wheel)
that it caused a fuse to
break or a relay to become defective. I checked
the fans while
the car was running; and only the passenger side radiator fan
was running -
NOT the driver's side. The temp. gauge is not reading too
high,
though; just higher than my normal range of almost half way when
hot.
Any ideas?
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TurboDrvn@aol.com wrote:
> <<
someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting in a corvette
6
> spd. >>
> I believe 6 speed vette trans is by
Getrag;
> our car, Supra, Corvette and
> Camaro.
>
I'll keep list posted with my progress.
>
> Ahmed
"AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4
The Vette etc. trans will not work.
The
basic problem is that OUR engine is TRANSVERSE
(mounted sideways) and has 3
(THREE) power output
points coming out of the transmission: 2 for front
wheels, and
one coming out BACK toward engine going INTO transfer case
which
changes direction of shaft rotation from SIDEWAYS
to LONGITUDINAL
(going front-to-back) to get to
rear differential. Corvette, Supra etc
are REARwheel
drive and have very simple trans bolting to engine,
and
power output going from engine BACK to trans BACK to
rear
differential.
I don't know what internal parts may be
interchangeable,
if any. I have been unable to get hold of my
Getrag
contacts for over a month ++...
Of interest: Getrag is making
the trans for an upcoming
Audi AWD of about 350hp, I wonder what trans
THAT
uses, if it is heavier duty than ours etc.
Getrag calls our 5-speeds
"440" transaxles; the
6-speeds are called "446"
transaxles in their company's
naming system.
Jack
Tertadian
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In a message dated 5/17/99 10:03:31 PM Central Daylight
Time, beking@home.com
writes:
<< According to GC you should be
able to drop the car in excess of 2" but it
is
advised NOT to do
that since it will definitely mess with the steering
geometry and as Jim says
adjustability becomes a serious concern.
The kit isn't intended for
"slamming" the car, but to offer a range of
adjustment for tuning
the ride height for performance handling reasons while
maintaining full
suspension travel unlike lowering springs.
Regards,
Barry
>>
This sounds like what i want.. WOuld a drop of 2.25 be WAY
to much do you all
think? I am not looking for the "G funk, low rider
look" I am going for the
lowered, racecar look. : ) and would like to
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In a message dated 5/17/99 10:07:10 PM Central Daylight
Time,
millebi@kw.igs.net writes:
<< Doug is thinking about
building a water injection system for < $300? (I
think). He has
the
capability and has made one work in the past, he is just modifying his
old
design to
work for a 3S.
Bill >>
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there is a japanese website out there,
with a gto using twin TDO5 units,
from dsm's. would this be a difficult mod.
someone on this list posted
the website sometime ago,and i forgot the thing.
anyway, it was in
japanese, so the only thing i could understand was the
pictures. i could
be wrong ,but i think these units were 14B, unlike my 9B
1st, generation
vr4 TDO4's.
someone overseas made them work, so why cant
we? if anyone knows
anything about this mod, let me know if its fesable.
thanks
again.
chris
hill
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I believe this topic has come up before on the starnet
list. Call me
crazy but I would want a scoop w/BOTH openings in the
front & rear for
max air flow (w/a possible divider in the middle).
As to whether this
fresh air will reach the FIPK or not , I doubt it because
of the forward
motion of the car (most air is coming from front) and the FIPK
is too far
forward of the strut cover opening. But these vents will aid
greatly in
cooling the engine, once parked. I drove my VR4 around w/o
strut tower
covers on (ugly I know) and you can see the heat coming out when
parked.
The best route for fresh air is quite simply, punch a hole in the
hood
right before the FIPK. I plan to go this route when I have the $$$
and
can find a shop capable of such. I think it'll look sweet w/a
little
ferrari/naca style duct on the hood. I need a new paint job on
the hood
anyway.
I even pondered taking off the pop up lights (just
for racing purposes),
but the lights are enclosed in by a wall (that combined
w/the bump
[crumple zone support?] in the hood won't let much air pass) and
then the
fuse box is the next big obstacle before the FIPK. On my Supra
when I
take of the passenger headlight, it's perfect for fresh air to go
right
into the K&N (RS akimoto). I even drove around like this and
it does
make a seat of the pants difference.
On another note, I may
have found a shop that can fabricate a DP that
eliminates both precats on the
VR4 and for a good price. I'll be
contacing them later this week.
They work solely on race cars & such and
they're located close to Atlanta
Dragway.
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OK I'm kinda lost two, what exactly are we buying??
struts? springs?
or BOTH?? and they're height
adjustable??? dam I just bought RSRs...
On Mon, 17 May 1999
17:26:10 -0400 Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
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Follow the link for more info... It's springs with
an adjustable mounting plate, you
retain the original struts and ECS if you
have it.
http://www.ground-control.com/
Nick Xiong wrote:
>
OK I'm kinda lost two, what exactly are we buying?? struts?
springs?
> or BOTH?? and they're height adjustable??? dam I
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The guy kept his case and replaced the gretag gearbox with
a corvette
gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive etc...
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1999 1:00 PM
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transmission questions.
TurboDrvn@aol.com wrote:
>
<< someone on the message boards was experimenting
w/putting in a
corvette 6
> spd. >>
> I believe 6 speed vette trans is
by Getrag;
> our car, Supra, Corvette and
>
Camaro.
> I'll keep list posted with my progress.
>
> Ahmed
"AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4
The Vette etc. trans will not work.
The
basic problem is that OUR engine is TRANSVERSE
(mounted sideways) and has 3
(THREE) power output
points coming out of the transmission: 2 for front
wheels,
and
one coming out BACK toward engine going INTO transfer
case
which
changes direction of shaft rotation from SIDEWAYS
to
LONGITUDINAL (going front-to-back) to get to
rear differential.
Corvette, Supra etc are REARwheel
drive and have very simple trans bolting to
engine, and
power output going from engine BACK to trans BACK to
rear
differential.
I don't know what internal parts may be
interchangeable,
if any. I have been unable to get hold of my
Getrag
contacts for over a month ++...
Of interest: Getrag is making
the trans for an upcoming
Audi AWD of about 350hp, I wonder what trans
THAT
uses, if it is heavier duty than ours etc.
Getrag calls our 5-speeds
"440" transaxles; the
6-speeds are called "446"
transaxles in their company's
naming system.
Jack
Tertadian
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Can you Fit a 315-35-17 on a 17by9inch wheel? I just want
to know if it will
fit!
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There does exist a TD05-16G 8cm^2 turbo kit for the
3000GT. It includes stainless steel
manifolds and utilizes external
wastegates. I've been offering this kit for awhile. But
customers usually
back away after finding out the pricing for it. The turbo kit is bolt
in,
with exception to having to modify the downpipe and intercooler pipe to fit
it.
chris hill wrote:
> there is a japanese website out there,
with a gto using twin TDO5 units,
> from dsm's. would this be a difficult
mod. someone on this list posted
> the website sometime ago,and i forgot
the thing. anyway, it was in
> japanese, so the only thing i could
understand was the pictures. i could
> be wrong ,but i think these units
were 14B, unlike my 9B 1st, generation
> vr4 TDO4's.
> someone
overseas made them work, so why cant we? if anyone knows
> anything about
this mod, let me know if its fesable. thanks
again.
>
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In a message dated 5/18/99 7:10:56 AM Central Daylight
Time, SHaBEEF@aol.com
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<< Can you Fit a 315-35-17 on a
17by9inch wheel? I just want to know if it
will
fit!
Thanks
Cliff >>
You're asking if the
315/35/17 tire can fit a 17x9 wheel? The answer is yes;
BUT you have
to check and see if the wheel offset and tire side wall will fit
our
cars!? In my opinion (I may be wrong), I do NOT think that this set up
will work on our cars. I have NOT heard of anyone from our list that
has
taken such a large width tire and fitted it on our cars, yet. ( I
definitely
DO NOT recommend wheel spacers for our cars, either!)
Good
luck,
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Okay guys, since we are on the subject of hood
scoops; I recall a
certain 3000GT website that included Japanese
alterations; it also had a
section on Kaze and Bozz Speed hood scoops.
The Kaze section had a
"headlight intake" modification (1st.
generation only - I am very interested
in this part - price: $120);
Also Bozz Speed makes "Bonnet scoops" for our
1st. generation
cars. I would like to include the webpage link with this
post I'm
sending but I'm not sure if I'll be breaking our mailing list
guidelines; so
here are the webpage
addresses:
http://home.adelphia.net/~rpmmotor/html/kaze.html
&
http://home.adelphia.net/~rpmmotor/index.html
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helps!
Good luck,
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A 2" or more drop doesn't sound
like much but is rather dramatic. GC
suggested that 2" would be
the outer limit from a practical standpoint
without causing other serious
suspension and steering geometry problems.
You could try it but I suspect
you'll run into clearance issues if not
worse. A 1.5" to
1.75" drop makes the car's stance very agressive and is
still more or
less practical on the street.
Barry
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>
> In a message dated 5/17/99 10:03:31 PM
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> beking@home.com
> writes:
>
>
<< According to GC you should be able to drop the car in excess
> of
2" but it
> is
> advised NOT to do that since it will
definitely mess with the steering
> geometry and as Jim says
adjustability becomes a serious concern.
>
> The kit isn't
intended for "slamming" the car, but to offer a range of
>
adjustment for tuning the ride height for performance handling
> reasons
while
> maintaining full suspension travel unlike lowering
springs.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>>
>
>
> This sounds like what i want.. WOuld a drop of
2.25 be WAY to
> much do you all
> think? I am not looking for the
"G funk, low rider look" I am
> going for the
> lowered,
racecar look. : ) and would like to have good suspension..
>
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Let me try the open track question again....
I
asked:
> I'm ordering a set so I can drive a perfectly aligned,
normal ride height
>> car to an open track event. When I arrive,
I'll jack it up, lower the
car, increase the
>> camber, adjust
out the high speed push, and just have a better handling
car. When I'm
all
>> finished at the event, I intend to jack it up, adjust back
to
>> stock height, and drive home with the car perfectly aligned once
again.
Anybody see a problem with this?
Barry
said:
>>
>Nope. That'll work just great. Check the
price on their camber kit. It is
>affordable.
>
Oops,
I mis-spoke. I don't wanna be adjusting camber.
What I REALLY want
to do is go to the track with a perfectly aligned car,
jack it up, lower it
an inch or so, run all weekend, jack it up, raise it
back up to the proper
street height (by counting threads or whatever), and
then drive it home as a
perfectly aligned car.
I don't want to have to check corner weights or
set the camber every time I
do this.
As I understand it, when you
lower the car, the camber automatically
increases, which is good for
on-track. Then, when ya put it back to street
height, the camber
automatically adjusts itself back to being perfect
again. N'est ce
pas?
I may have to fiddle with ride heights at the first coupla track
events to
find the ride height settings that eliminate push, but once
that's
accomplished (and the settings noted), I forsee being finished with
further
fiddling, Fred.
I am envisioning a SIMPLE trackside procedure,
not a major alignment project.
NOW does anyone see a problem with
this?
If it ain't as easy as I hope, I may have to start trailering to
and from
events. It's tough enough running the Old Poop Brake Shop all
weekend, I
don't need to open a front end shop too. Open Track events are
supposed to
be FUN.
>
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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I'm sure you can get it close, but i would still check the
alignment
somehow. I'm sure you know that you will probably eat up a set of
tires
each time you go to the track, right? When you factor in the price of a
new
set of tires each time you go to the track, a $70 alignment starts to
sound
pretty cheap.......
At 10:10 AM 5/18/99 , you
wrote:
>Let me try the open track question again....
>Oops,
I mis-spoke. I don't wanna be adjusting camber.
>
>What I
REALLY want to do is go to the track with a perfectly aligned car,
>jack
it up, lower it an inch or so, run all weekend, jack it up, raise it
>back
up to the proper street height (by counting threads or whatever),
and
>then drive it home as a perfectly aligned car.
>As I
understand it, when you lower the car, the camber
automatically
>increases, which is good for on-track. Then, when ya put it
back to street
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> The guy kept his case and replaced the gretag gearbox
with a corvette
> gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive etc...
How
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he
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Hmm, this could be a pretty good way to go since Corvette
parts are a lot
more readily available than the Mitsu stuff.. Thanks
for the info!
-Matt
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>
>
> I donno what the guy said
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> wheel drive
> working but put
in a corvette gear box.
>
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> > The guy kept his case and replaced the gretag
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> > gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive
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> How did he retain the AWD system with a Corvette
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> he
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I just got on this list yesterday, and everything I've
seen has been =
great.
I think the people that reply to these question are
very knowledgeable =
and
helpful. Therefor I thought I would put all
you to the test.
I replaced my motor because of an internal problem. But
now that I've
replaced the motor a Yugo and kick my ass. My car feels like it
has an
injector problem. I've had the injectors cleaned but no help. I
was
wondering what else I might check.
These are my
symptoms
=B7 It is VERY slow when I first drive off from a standstill.
=20
=B7 It also has very bad hesitation when my foot is into it. =20
=B7
It has moments of good acceleration, but only for a sec.=20
=B7 It feels like
it will never build full power. But if I pump the =
gas
peddle it
feels like it will accelerate faster but nothing too quick.
=B7 I still have
good power at the top end but it takes me forever to =
get to
that
speed.
=B7 My check engine light is "ON"
I have a 1992
3000GT -VR4, and no a Yugo has not beating me but I
=
won't
race anything right now :).
I was wondering if could be a
timing problem because of the back =
firing?
Can anyone help with
this problem? Can a diagnostic check find my
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everything I've seen has been great. I think the people that
=
reply to these question are very knowledgeable and helpful.
=
Therefor I thought I would put all you to the
test.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">I replaced my motor because of an =
internal
problem. But now that I've replaced the motor a Yugo and kick =
my ass. My
car feels like it has an injector problem. I've had the =
injectors cleaned
but no help. I was wondering what else I might
=
check.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2
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symptoms</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2
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off from
a standstill. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">=B7 It also has very bad hesitation =
when my
foot is into it. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">=B7 It has moments of good =
acceleration, but
only for a sec. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">=B7 It feels like it will never build =
full
power. But if I pump the gas peddle it feels like it will
=
accelerate faster but nothing too
quick.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">=B7 I still have good power at the top =
end but
it takes me forever to get to that speed.</FONT>
<BR><FONT
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">=B7 My check engine light is
=
"ON"</FONT>
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<P><FONT
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have a 1992 3000GT
-VR4, =
and no a Yugo has not beating me but I
won</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2
=
FACE=3D"Arial">'</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">t race anything =
right now
:).</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">I was wondering if could be a timing =
problem
because of the back
firing?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT
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=
problem? Can a diagnostic check find my problem?
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Okay, the key questions are:
1) What year and model
is the Corvette tranny. I'm sure there are a few.
2) What modifications were
required to accept it. I'm sure it just doesn't bolt in,
regardless of
whether or not he retained the transfer case for AWD.
3)How well does it
function/shift. Still seems too good to be true.
4) Who is this unnamed guy.
Have him post so we can discus his
brilliance.
Best
Darc
> > The guy kept his
case and replaced the gretag gearbox with a corvette
> > gearbox so he
still has 4 wheel drive etc...
>
> How did he retain the AWD system
with a Corvette tranny? Are you sure he
> didn't rotate the motor
and just make it RWD? Or did he just somehow swap
> the actual
input/output gears and somehow make it work. I'm pretty sure
> there
was never an AWD Corvette manufactured so you couldn't just drop it in
>
and have it work.
>
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David...
Admin notice...please turn off your HTML
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Plain Text only). Thanks.
Now, timing
is a possibility. Plug gap is also a potential culprit (how wide
are they
gapped?). Did you replace the plug wires with the rebuild? Given
the heat in
our engine compartments, the wires should be replaced if they're
old or
mis-handled. It could also be a vacuum leak in any of the lines.
Yes, a
good diagnostic check should identify problems related to A/F
mixture,
timing, etc.
Looking forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
(w/HKS Super Flo intake, TEC 15G turbos, bored
and polished throttle body, RC
560cc injectors, HKS fuel pump, GReddy PRofec
A boost controller, G-force ECU
upgrade, HKS SBOV, custom intercoolers,
Predator dry cell battery, Magnecore
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turbo timer, Eibach 1" drop
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>· It is VERY slow when I first drive off from a
standstill.
>· It also has very bad hesitation when my foot is into
it.
>· It has moments of good acceleration, but only for a
sec.
>· It feels like it will never build full power. But if
I pump the
> gas peddle it feels like it will accelerate faster but
nothing too quick.
>· I still have good power at the top end but it
takes me forever to get to
that speed.
>· My check engine light
is "ON"
>I have a 1992 3000GT -VR4
First thing to do is
to find out what code the ECU is storing. That'll
likely give you a
good direction to start looking. Could be some sort of
injector problem
or a timing problem, possibly a bad connection to the
MAF
sensor.
>I was wondering if could be a timing problem because
of the back firing?
You might get backfiring if the mixture is very rich
also. If the MAF is
sending funky readings to the ECU, and that's what
the ECU is indicating
with the Check Engine light, then it goes into a
"failsafe" mode and runs
the motor super-rich which could appear as
the symptoms you describe.
>Can anyone help with this problem?
Can a diagnostic check find my problem?
Hope that maybe helped, but I'd
find out what the code is first before
starting to tear into the problem very
far. You can construct a very simple
tool to read the codes from the
computer and post the code to the list and
I'm sure someone can tell you what
it means.
http://www.myzero.com/electrical/code.html
The codes on
that page are for the DSM cars, but I believe the diagnostic
connector and
the way it clocks out codes are the same at least for early
VR4's since the
TMO Datalogger works on both. If I'm wrong, I'm sure
someone will
correct me. ;-)
Hope that helps!
-Matt
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David;
Did you replace the engine with a new
engine, a rebuilt engine,
or a used engine?
How many miles are on it? (60K
performed?)
Have you reset the ECU? (unhooked your battery positive for
15
mins)
Are all your vaccum hoses all connected and fault free?
(No
cracks, splits, etc)
Is your MAS plugged in properly?( ie have you or
your mechanic
recently had your air filter
off)
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This needs to be taken care of, it's
probably the source of your problem. Most
dealers will only charge for 1/2 -
1 hour labor to retrieve the code. Just tell
them you want to know what is
setting the code, and you will fix it yourself.
This should cost about
$30.
At 12:06 PM 5/18/99 , you wrote:
>
> ·
My check engine light is "ON"
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Instead of getting that $120 headlight intake that will
allow only a
trivial amount of air in, take the WHOLE headlight cover
off!!!! I just
did it and can confirm that due to the wall around the
headlight assembly
and the bump on the inside of the hood, there's only one
finger of
clearance (sometimes less) for air to get thru. but still,
you'll be
flowing a LOT more air than that little headlight intake (which
I
understand is not even readily available). And you'll still have the
use
of the headlight. It'll be ugly but functional.
I believe
this friday is test & tune at Atlanta Dragway!!!
anybody
coming??? I don't know yet if I'm gonna take the Supra and
break 12s or
VR4 to try to get low 13s.
The bonnet
scops are nice too but to say it's overpriced is an
understatement.
That's why one of the guys here is working to design
one
(hopefully).
On Tue, 18 May 1999 09:03:41 EDT TurboDrvn@aol.com
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> Okay guys, since we are on the subject of hood scoops; I
>recall a >certain 3000GT website that included Japanese alterations;
it
also had
>a >section on Kaze and Bozz Speed hood scoops.
The Kaze section had a
>"headlight intake" modification (1st.
generation only - I am very
>interested >in this part - price:
$120); Also Bozz Speed makes "Bonnet
scoops"
>for our
>1st. generation
cars.
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> > The guy kept his
case and replaced the gretag gearbox with a corvette
> > gearbox so he
still has 4 wheel drive
etc...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
I
read the origional post and the guy said that the Getrag internals were
replaced
with Corvette transmission internals thus leaving the Mitsu
case.
My response now as then is --- ya right !!! I'll beleive that when I
see it.
Jim
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Okay....everyone who has been reading my posts about my
car......What was
said about the car in the yugo post...............is
EXACTLY TO THE LETTER OF
EVERYTHING GOING WRONG WITH MY CAR SINCE I DID MY
ENGINE SWAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just never put it in words like that in one
post. My only computer codes
kept giving me EGR flow
codes... I've replaced alot of things in the EGR
system. The
code is gone....been gone for 500 miles.........but the car
still has the
same problem. The MAS seems to be ok too. I'm still
searching for the problem.
.
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So, gutting the pre-cats didnt fix it????
At
03:49 PM 5/18/99 , you wrote:
>I'm still
>searching for the
problem.
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One quick comment,
are we all forgetting about HKS
here? In my opinion after working with
Greddy, Blitz, and APEX'i
electronic boost controllers, I think the HKS
works great at a decent
price(roughly 450 for the EVC4). I would never
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
>
Okay....everyone who has been reading my posts about my car......What
was
> said about the car in the yugo post...............is EXACTLY TO THE
LETTER OF
> EVERYTHING GOING WRONG WITH MY CAR SINCE I DID MY ENGINE
SWAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I just never put it in words like that in one
post. My only computer codes
> kept giving me EGR flow
codes... I've replaced alot of things in the EGR
> system. The
code is gone....been gone for 500 miles.........but the car
> still has
the same problem. The MAS seems to be ok too. I'm
still
> searching for the problem.
>
Hmmm...disconnected the
battery to reset ECU, unplugged and replugged the MAS just to
confirm a
good connection while battery was disconnected, checked it's wires for
breaks
or shorts, checked all vaccum hoses?? Dunno...is the timing belt off
or about slip big
time (60 k??)>> Did you get a used engine
advertised at 45k but really at 80k? Hard to
say...whatyaexperts
say?
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Darc
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Jim Berry wrote:
> > > The guy
kept his case and replaced the gretag gearbox with a corvette
> > >
gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive etc...
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
---------
>
> I read the origional post and the guy said that the
Getrag internals were replaced
> with Corvette transmission internals thus
leaving the Mitsu case.
> My response now as then is --- ya right !!! I'll
beleive that when I see it.
>
Mmmmm...I was tactfully trying to
imply the same Jim, while leaving the door slightly ajar for that
1
in100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance that a
brilliant lad somewhere (Alpha
Centuri maybe) had actually solved the Getrag
Blues.
On another note, I hear the shop in San Diego (grapevine up here
in Canada) has Getrag parts..or at
least receives them wrapped in German
newspaper. Maybe the flood gates are about to be cracked
open?
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Darc
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Gutting the pre-cats did help....i have alot
more horsepower than
before....and the car goes a little faster...but I
still have the same
problems......also........my acceleration seems to only
work between 3500 and
5500 rpms......before 3500 rpm the car
hesitates too much...and after 5500
rpm I don't have enough
fuel.
If I drive slow....my car runs RICH ....if I drive FAST the
car runs Lean
is how it seems. Plug wires will be my
next investment.......
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David_J or David Jimenez posted this on the Message Board
a couple of weeks back. Nothing further has been said about the deal,
other than here in the Tech Forum. I would say, that if nothing has been
said by now, IT'S A DEAD ISSUE. Time to move on to fixing our problems
with KNOWN SOLUTIONS - like Kormex really machining sets of synchros and having
them available in June. My main surprise is that somebody like Kormex or
MD Auto haven't latched onto this before - since they are in the rebuild
business. Otherwise, if the supply pipeline is really that closed, then
where do they get their parts from. I know that selling a $2,000 tranny is
probably more profit for them than selling a set of synchro rings, so maybe
their motive has been almost like Mitsu's - except giving us a much better price
(sounds familiar doesn't it).
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>Okay, the key questions
are:
>
>1) What year and model is the Corvette tranny. I'm sure
there are a few.
>2) What modifications were required to accept it. I'm
sure it just doesn't bolt in,
>regardless of whether or not he retained
the transfer case for AWD.
>3)How well does it function/shift. Still seems
too good to be true.
>4) Who is this unnamed guy. Have him post so we can
discus his
brilliance.
>
>Best
>
>Darc
>
>
>
>>
> The guy kept his case and replaced the gretag gearbox with a
corvette
>> > gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive
etc...
>>
>> How did he retain the AWD system with a Corvette
tranny? Are you sure he
>> didn't rotate the motor and just make
it RWD? Or did he just somehow swap
>> the actual input/output
gears and somehow make it work. I'm pretty sure
>> there was
never an AWD Corvette manufactured so you couldn't just drop it in
>>
and have it work.
>>
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I remember someone mentioning their sparks plugs were
torqued to
tight....does that really effect the spark?? How
tight should I get them
with a socket?? I have to torx
wrench. Also...I'm using BOSCH Platinum +4
plugs with 4 Pre-gapped
tips.....they are not
re-gap-able..
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I believe that Getrag (and ZF and other Euro transmission
builders) number
their trannies according to the Newton Meters of Torque they
are designed
to handle. If this is the case here, 446 would indicate that it
is designed
for a max of about 330 lb-ft of torque.
Gwynne
Spencer
At 11:59 AM 5/18/99 -0500, you
wrote:
>
>
>TurboDrvn@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
<< someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting in a corvette
6
>> spd. >>
>> I believe 6 speed vette trans is
by Getrag;
>> our car, Supra, Corvette and
>>
Camaro.
>> I'll keep list posted with my
progress.
>>
>> Ahmed "AL-Crazy" - '92
VR4
>
>The Vette etc. trans will not work.
>The basic problem
is that OUR engine is TRANSVERSE
>(mounted sideways) and has 3 (THREE)
power output
>points coming out of the transmission: 2 for front
wheels, and
>one coming out BACK toward engine going INTO transfer case
which
>changes direction of shaft rotation from SIDEWAYS
>to
LONGITUDINAL (going front-to-back) to get to
>rear differential.
Corvette, Supra etc are REARwheel
>drive and have very simple trans
bolting to engine, and
>power output going from engine BACK to trans BACK
to
>rear differential.
>
>I don't know what internal parts may
be interchangeable,
>if any. I have been unable to get hold of my
Getrag
>contacts for over a month ++...
>Of interest: Getrag
is making the trans for an upcoming
>Audi AWD of about 350hp, I wonder
what trans THAT
>uses, if it is heavier duty than ours etc.
>Getrag
calls our 5-speeds "440" transaxles; the
>6-speeds are called
"446" transaxles in their company's
>naming
system.
>
>Jack Tertadian
>
>PS Contact Joe Kou
for Ground Control group purchase, or
>goto website
http://www.ground-control.com
>
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There may be a spark plug torque specification in the
manual, but I've never
used a torque wrench to install spark plugs before. If
I was to guess how
much torque I apply, my guess is that it's roughly 30 ft.
lbs.
More important (IMO)...what prompted you to buy the +4 plugs? What
gap did
they come with? The general consensus is that NGK platinums (gapped
tighter
than factory specs) are the only ones that work well on our cars
(refer to
the archives for this thread). Did you have problems before you
switched to
the +4 plugs?
Looking
forward...Chris
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I remember someone mentioning their sparks plugs were
torqued to
tight....does that really effect the spark?? How
tight should I get them
with a socket?? I have to torx
wrench. Also...I'm using BOSCH Platinum +4
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In theory, if you align the car at a given ride heiht,
adjust it on eway or
the other, then adjust it back, the alignement SHOULD be
the way it was
before.
The trick is getting it back to precisely the
same place.
In your case I highly recommend that a) you accept that
camber and toe
adjustments are as critical as ride height especially for
track use b) you
invest a bit in camber and alignment goodies that you can
haul around and
use trackside very easily once you get the hang of it -- it
isn't rocket
science. Ask the GC people about these tools and they can
direct you to a
couple of manufacturers. Probably not what you wanted
to hear but for a few
hundred more you'll be in much better
shape.
That being said, I believe the first paragraph holds
true.
Note that tire wear will be different on the track vs street (as
you are
aware) and that handling at street height will be affected somewhat
by the
different wear induced at the track height and track
conditions.
Shouldn't be a big deal though.
Barry
>
-----Original Message-----
>
> Let me try the open track question
again....
>
> I asked:
>
> > I'm ordering a set so I
can drive a perfectly aligned, normal
> ride height
> >> car
to an open track event. When I arrive, I'll jack it up, lower the
>
car, increase the
> >> camber, adjust out the high speed push,
and just have a
> better handling
> car. When I'm all
>
>> finished at the event, I intend to jack it up, adjust back to
>
>> stock height, and drive home with the car perfectly aligned once
again.
> Anybody see a problem with this?
>
> Barry
said:
> >>
> >Nope. That'll work just great.
Check the price on their camber
> kit. It is
>
>affordable.
> >
> Oops, I mis-spoke. I don't wanna be
adjusting camber.
>
> What I REALLY want to do is go to the track
with a perfectly aligned car,
> jack it up, lower it an inch or so, run
all weekend, jack it up, raise it
> back up to the proper street height
(by counting threads or whatever), and
> then drive it home as a perfectly
aligned car.
>
> I don't want to have to check corner weights or set
the camber
> every time I
> do this.
>
> As I understand
it, when you lower the car, the camber automatically
> increases, which is
good for on-track. Then, when ya put it back to street
> height, the
camber automatically adjusts itself back to being perfect
> again. N'est
ce pas?
>
> I may have to fiddle with ride heights at the first
coupla track events to
> find the ride height settings that eliminate
push, but once that's
> accomplished (and the settings noted), I forsee
being finished
> with further
> fiddling, Fred.
>
> I am
envisioning a SIMPLE trackside procedure, not a major
> alignment
project.
>
> NOW does anyone see a problem with
this?
>
> If it ain't as easy as I hope, I may have to start
trailering to and from
> events. It's tough enough running the Old Poop
Brake Shop all weekend, I
> don't need to open a front end shop too. Open
Track events are supposed to
> be FUN.
> >
> Rich/old
poop/94 VR4
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There is NO kit. I have outlined the procedure before and
sent a
drawing to some for the rear. It is tricky but can be
done.
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He intends to... as far as his other
notes said.
Bill
On 18 May 99, at 2:34, TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
wrote:
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> millebi@kw.igs.net writes:
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> << Doug is thinking
about building a water injection system for < $300? (I
> think). He has
the capability and has made one work in the past, he is just
modifying
> his old design to work for a 3S.
>
> Bill >>
>
> Will he be selling
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You mean no kit for the rear, right? If so then
agreed, noone is making
one, at least not any of the top companies (TEIN,
Cusco, HKS, GC etc.).
TEIN does make an upper pillow ball mount for the rear
of our cars but it is
non-adjustable since that feature requires mods to the
lower suspension
parts as well.
There are a number of kits for front
camber adjustment. There are offerings
from GC, Cusco (HKS is the same
kit) and TEIN. They include upper pillow
mounts as well. The GC
kit is superior in that it also uses a special
bushing which drastically
reduces wear and tear on the pillow ball mount.
It is however a universal
fitment kit which uses four mounting hoels rather
than the three the stock
upper plate uses. Some minor fabrication
is
required.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
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>
> There is NO kit. I have outlined the procedure
before and sent a
> drawing to some for the rear. It is tricky but can be
done.
>
> Ron
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1. Whats so good about the EVC I. I have the chance
to get one but I
am undecided if it is better then the DSBC or EVC IV.
2.
What MODIFICATION must be done to the HKS Sequential Blow Off valve
for it to
fit a 94+. I have never installed on and was curious if this is
hard or
very time consuming. Any info very much
appreciated.
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Hmm, that would mean the 555 in my 4 cyl turbo Shelby is
stronger than the
trans in my VR-4..
I think that numbering
hypothesis is flawed :)
Regards,
Roger Crawford
94 Black
VR-4
3SI #241
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I believe that Getrag (and ZF and other Euro transmission
builders) number
their trannies according to the Newton Meters of Torque they
are designed
to handle. If this is the case here, 446 would indicate that it
is designed
for a max of about 330 lb-ft of torque.
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30 ft. lbs - OUCH. I have owned many cars with aluminum
heads and have
never seen a factory torque value that high. Most are in the
15 to 20 lb
range. For instance BMW cars up through 1992 call for 15 to
22.
I would be VERY worried about stripped threads at 30.
Gwynne
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At 05:52 PM 5/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>There may be a spark
plug torque specification in the manual, but I've never
>used a torque
wrench to install spark plugs before. If I was to guess how
>much torque I
apply, my guess is that it's roughly 30 ft. lbs.
>
>More important
(IMO)...what prompted you to buy the +4 plugs? What gap did
>they come
with? The general consensus is that NGK platinums (gapped tighter
>than
factory specs) are the only ones that work well on our cars (refer to
>the
archives for this thread). Did you have problems before you switched
to
>the +4 plugs?
>
>Looking
forward...Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999
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>Subject: Team3S: Spark
Plug question
>
>
>I remember someone mentioning their sparks
plugs were torqued to
>tight....does that really effect the spark??
How tight should I get them
>with a socket?? I have to
torx wrench. Also...I'm using BOSCH Platinum +4
>plugs with 4
Pre-gapped tips.....they are not re-gap-able..
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MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
> Gutting the
pre-cats did help....i have alot more horsepower than
>
before....and the car goes a little faster...but I still have the same
>
problems......also........my acceleration seems to only work between 3500
and
> 5500 rpms......before 3500 rpm the car hesitates too
much...and after 5500
> rpm I don't have enough fuel.
>
If I drive slow....my car runs RICH ....if I drive FAST the car runs
Lean
> is how it seems. Plug wires will be my next
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If you had a VPC this would be easy,
it would be a hole/leak in the hose going to
the VPC pressure sensor under
the hood.
Did you gut main cat?
If engine was gone thru, a cam (maybe even
only ONE of the 4) that was off by a tooth
of the camgear on the belt could
do this too, and make backfires.
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Further to my previous note re spark plug torque - the NGK
Master Catalog says:
Aluminum
head Cast iron head
For 14 mm plugs
W/ flat seat 18 - 21.6 lb ft 18 - 25.3
For 14 mm plugs W/
taper seat 7.2 - 14.5 " 10.8 - 18
Gwynne
Spencer
30 ft. lbs - OUCH. I have owned many cars with
aluminum heads and have
never seen a factory torque value that high. Most are
in the 15 to 20 lb
range. For instance BMW cars up through 1992 call
for 15 to 22.
I would be VERY worried about stripped threads at
30.
Gwynne Spencer
At 05:52 PM 5/18/99 -0700, you
wrote:
>There may be a spark plug torque specification in the manual, but
I've never
>used a torque wrench to install spark plugs before. If I was
to guess how
>much torque I apply, my guess is that it's roughly 30 ft.
lbs.
>
>More important (IMO)...what prompted you to buy the +4
plugs? What gap did
>they come with? The general consensus is that NGK
platinums (gapped tighter
>than factory specs) are the only ones that work
well on our cars (refer to
>the archives for this thread). Did you have
problems before you switched to
>the +4 plugs?
>
>Looking
forward...Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999
3:25 PM
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Team3S: Spark
Plug question
>
>
>I remember someone mentioning their sparks
plugs were torqued to
>tight....does that really effect the spark??
How tight should I get them
>with a socket?? I have to
torx wrench. Also...I'm using BOSCH Platinum +4
>plugs with 4
Pre-gapped tips.....they are not re-gap-able..
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Merritt wrote:
> > can drive
perfectly aligned, normal ride height
> >> car to track. I'll
jack it up, lower car.
> >> When finished event, I jack it up,
adjust back to
> >> stock height, drive home with car
perfectly aligned again.
> >> Anybody see a problem with
this?
> by counting threads
> lower the car, camber
automatically
> increases, is good for on-track. Then, when ya put it back
to street
> height, camber adjusts itself back to being perfect
again.
No, I think this is a fine idea.
If you count threads, and you
haven't literally BENT your suspension arms
or tie rods etc, and you
mechanically put the position back where it was pre-event,
then the alignment
WILL return to where you had it BEFORE.
There is no "mysterious
monkey-motion looseness" that will screw it up, as
the ONLY thing you
adjusted is the strut's spring perch height. You did
NOT touch the
camber adjust cams, they are as tight as ever and set
EXACTLY where you had
them BEFORE.
Unless you postulate some DAMAGE=BENDING of the suspension
from
the track event, it WILL return exactly to spec.
If you think it WILL
damage/bend/misalign, then changing the spring
height will NOT STOP THAT, it
would have happened anyway, and the
ride height adjust STILL ends up a
zero-sum once adjusted back to stock...
within miniscule statistical
variances/normal wear and tear changes
that would have ocurred with OR
WITHOUT adjusting spring height collar!
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It may be a "hypothesis" appied to
Stealth/Mitsu, but all the trannies used
by BMW have the tranny manufacturer
rating in newton meters in the model
designation. (model as named by the
manufacturer)
Also, often a choice of tranny is made for reasons other
than torque
rating. For instance, if the tranny is used in other models and
the cost of
a new part number in the inventory would exceed the saving on a
lighter
unit - or layout / dimensios are only available in that rating - or
gear
ratio choices are only available in that particular unit - or
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At 07:04 AM
5/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hmm, that would mean the 555 in my 4 cyl turbo
Shelby is stronger than the
>trans in my VR-4..
>
>I think
that numbering hypothesis is flawed :)
>
>Regards,
>Roger
Crawford
>94 Black VR-4
>3SI
#241
>
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999
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>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: transmission questions.
>
>
>I believe that Getrag (and ZF
and other Euro transmission builders) number
>their trannies according to
the Newton Meters of Torque they are designed
>to handle. If this is the
case here, 446 would indicate that it is designed
>for a max of about 330
lb-ft of torque.
>
>Gwynne Spencer
>
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I forgot to mention one other critical factor - the fewer
the number of
cylinders, the higher the torque rating has to be, as the gears
are
subjected to impulse loads and 4 cylinder engines are typically
much
rougher in this respect - diesels are even worse.
Gwynne
Spencer
It may be a "hypothesis" appied to
Stealth/Mitsu, but all the trannies used
by BMW have the tranny manufacturer
rating in newton meters in the model
designation. (model as named by the
manufacturer)
Also, often a choice of tranny is made for reasons other
than torque
rating. For instance, if the tranny is used in other models and
the cost of
a new part number in the inventory would exceed the saving on a
lighter
unit - or layout / dimensios are only available in that rating - or
gear
ratio choices are only available in that particular unit - or
any
combination of these factors.
Gwynne Spencer
At 07:04 AM
5/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hmm, that would mean the 555 in my 4 cyl turbo
Shelby is stronger than the
>trans in my VR-4..
>
>I think
that numbering hypothesis is flawed :)
>
>Regards,
>Roger
Crawford
>94 Black VR-4
>3SI
#241
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
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>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999
7:37 PM
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: transmission questions.
>
>
>I believe that Getrag (and ZF
and other Euro transmission builders) number
>their trannies according to
the Newton Meters of Torque they are designed
>to handle. If this is the
case here, 446 would indicate that it is designed
>for a max of about 330
lb-ft of torque.
>
>Gwynne Spencer
>
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From: Merritt
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Subject: Re: Team3S: Adjusting up and down
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>Unless you postulate some DAMAGE=BENDING of the
suspension from
>the track event, it WILL return exactly to
spec.
Thanks, Jack. That's what I wanted to hear.
Rich
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Subject: Team3S: 100% IDC
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I've been noticing that at 1bar of boost on my 93 I'm
pegging the IDC at
100. I've tried lowering the boost on my AVC-R to .80 and
still hit my head
on the 100 mark. Why is this happening? Does anyone else
experience this? I
don't like the idea of working the injectors so
hard.
Thanks.
Dave
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From: Kevin Schappell
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Subject: Team3S: Grinding noise when
cornering????
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:40:34 -0400
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I have a grinding noise when I corner. Seems like it could
be a wheel
bearing or maybe a CV joint. Do our cars have CV joints? ( I am
assuming
they do ) I have not heard alot of discussion about CV joint
wearing out,
is this common? I originally though the noise was just the
tires but it
seems to be louder when I corner, then it quiets up when I
straighten out.
Any help would be appreciated.
Kevin
Schappell
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